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Funding sports arenas yet to pay for public

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The heat might sell as many seats a game as the marlins.

 

 

It should not be up to government to build sporting arenas when there are more useful things to do with the money, because quite simply it does not pay.

 

I have had it with corporate welfare.

Wow!

 

I actually agree with Soriano on something..

I think MLB should have required there be a new ballpark built before the team was awarded, but Wayne claimed PPS was good enough and MLB went along with it.

 

Moving an MLB team is harder than moving a volcano. I have serious doubts the Expos will move now that rumors in Montreal have the Canadiens ownership and some former Expos owners considering buying the team back from MLB and making it work at Olympic Stadium.

 

The Marlins, worse comes to worse, will go for the lease war with Wayne. Dade County can reinstate the ordinance it repealed when the Marlins were created that limited Pro Player Stadium to 18 events a year. That would devistate Wayne. Imagine, no more concerts or even parties in skyboxes.

 

The Marlins have more leverage than they think. Remember PPS is on public land.

if the expos are bought back by Canadian ownership....

 

I would not be surprised to see a new stadium built up there.....

To tell you the truth, Olympic Stadium's biggest problem was the Turf, this season they are getting FieldTurf which is better for player's health than grass. Studies by players in Tampa prove this. The roof situation will change in a couple of years when the OIB has to once again change the roof. If baseball is up there still, they could get the retractable roof installed correctly. The old ubrella used the wrong fabric.

if the expos are bought back by Canadian ownership....

 

I would not be surprised to see a new stadium built up there.....

What of the RICO lawsuit?

Could the MLB Expos move to DC, Granolaville or a casino near you?

And the Loria Expos-Marlins move to Montreal?

 

Not likely they'll do anything about the Henry Marlins-Red Sox. MLB has already bent rules for them this offseason.

Ok i just want to point out a few things, the Miami (including surrounding counties) area has probably the most major stadiums in one city. First lets go over the Arenas, you have AAA, the Office Depot Center, The Miami Arena, lets not forget the brand new Convocation Center (the new 8,000 seat Miami hurricane arena). Then for football/soccer you have The Orange Bowl, Pro Player Stadium, and of course the ever popular Lockhart Soccer stadium, which seats 20,000 and no is used by FAU. Also you have Fort Lauderdale Stadium which hosts the Orioles spring training. Roger Dean is near by. So my count is 9 stadiums and arenas which hold more than 5,000. Im sure other members can think of more or where im wrong. Hopefully a tenth will be a new home for the marlins

Ok i just want to point out a few things, the Miami (including surrounding counties) area has probably the most major stadiums in one city. First lets go over the Arenas, you have AAA, the Office Depot Center, The Miami Arena, lets not forget the brand new Convocation Center (the new 8,000 seat Miami hurricane arena). Then for football/soccer you have The Orange Bowl, Pro Player Stadium, and of course the ever popular Lockhart Soccer stadium, which seats 20,000 and no is used by FAU. Also you have Fort Lauderdale Stadium which hosts the Orioles spring training. Roger Dean is near by. So my count is 9 stadiums and arenas which hold more than 5,000. Im sure other members can think of more or where im wrong. Hopefully a tenth will be a new home for the marlins

thats crazy. Why didnt they move the UM basketball team to the Miami Arena, and used the Lockhart soccer stadium for major soccer events?

I think MLB should have required there be a new ballpark built before the team was awarded, but Wayne claimed PPS was good enough and MLB went along with it.

 

Moving an MLB team is harder than moving a volcano. I have serious doubts the Expos will move now that rumors in Montreal have the Canadiens ownership and some former Expos owners considering buying the team back from MLB and making it work at Olympic Stadium.

 

The Marlins, worse comes to worse, will go for the lease war with Wayne. Dade County can reinstate the ordinance it repealed when the Marlins were created that limited Pro Player Stadium to 18 events a year. That would devistate Wayne. Imagine, no more concerts or even parties in skyboxes.

 

The Marlins have more leverage than they think. Remember PPS is on public land.

while true, Miami never should have gotten the team without a real stadium, the reality is WE GOT THEM. Now, the truth is showing up in these message boards. These so called fans say the government should not help build the stadium. True. Free country. Free for Marlins to move to. I hope that makes you idealists happy when they are gone. Maybe in Memphis or Vancouver the Marlins would have the revenue stream to sign Pudge again. Then all the Pudge fans will be happy. Pudge will be a Marlin. A Memphis Marlin.

I think MLB should have required there be a new ballpark built before the team was awarded, but Wayne claimed PPS was good enough and MLB went along with it.

 

Moving an MLB team is harder than moving a volcano. I have serious doubts the Expos will move now that rumors in Montreal have the Canadiens ownership and some former Expos owners considering buying the team back from MLB and making it work at Olympic Stadium.

 

The Marlins, worse comes to worse, will go for the lease war with Wayne. Dade County can reinstate the ordinance it repealed when the Marlins were created that limited Pro Player Stadium to 18 events a year. That would devistate Wayne. Imagine, no more concerts or even parties in skyboxes.

 

The Marlins have more leverage than they think. Remember PPS is on public land.

while true, Miami never should have gotten the team without a real stadium, the reality is WE GOT THEM. Now, the truth is showing up in these message boards. These so called fans say the government should not help build the stadium. True. Free country. Free for Marlins to move to. I hope that makes you idealists happy when they are gone. Maybe in Memphis or Vancouver the Marlins would have the revenue stream to sign Pudge again. Then all the Pudge fans will be happy. Pudge will be a Marlin. A Memphis Marlin.

Vancouver? Memphis? lolol

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thats crazy. Why didnt they move the UM basketball team to the Miami Arena, and used the Lockhart soccer stadium for major soccer events?

The UM basketball team had always played in the Miami Arena, but they wanted to build an arena on campus in the hopes of raising the level of their basketball program. (What they should be doing is looking for a new coach, but that's for another thread...)

thats crazy. Why didnt they move the UM basketball team to the Miami Arena, and used the Lockhart soccer stadium for major soccer events?

The UM basketball team had always played in the Miami Arena, but they wanted to build an arena on campus in the hopes of raising the level of their basketball program. (What they should be doing is looking for a new coach, but that's for another thread...) HAHAHAHAHA... :D Exactly. Like we did here at FSU - thanks Coach Hamilton.

Miami's not alone in sports facilities craze.

DC has the MCI Arena, Capital Centre, Comcast Center (18000 college arena), RFK Stadium, FedEx Field, Byrd Stadium (expanding to 70000+ seats), and talk of a smaller soccer stadium for DC United. Not to mention Baltimore which is closer to DC than Ft.L is to Miami.

 

It's freaking crazy what they do nowadays. Teams can't share stadiums anymore? Football teams need their own to play 6-8 games in 4 months?

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