Turk Wendell vs Bonds.

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SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- Barry Bonds chastised Colorado reliever Turk Wendell on Wednesday for accusing him of using steroids.

 

A day after Wendell said it was "clear just seeing his body" that Bonds was taking steroids, the San Francisco Giants slugger said the remark should've been made directly to him -- not a reporter.

 

Bonds also used profanity in his response.

 

"I heard about his comments. If you've got something to say, say it to my face," Bonds said. "Don't talk through the media."

 

"I'm not worried about him. I'm not worried about anyone. I have a lot of respect for Turk Wendell. I have a lot of respect for every baseball player in this game," he added. "You got something to say, you come to my face and say it and we'll deal with each other. Don't talk through the media like you're some tough guy."

 

On Tuesday in Tucson, Wendell criticized Bonds to The Denver Post.

 

Bonds, who has always denied using steroids, appeared in December before a grand jury probing a supplements lab accused of illegally distributing steroids to athletes.

 

His trainer, Greg Anderson, was among four men charged this month. All the men have pleaded innocent and no athletes have been charged.

 

"If my personal trainer, me, Turk Wendell, got indicted for that, there's no one in the world who wouldn't think that I wasn't taking steroids," Wendell was quoted as saying by the Post. "I mean, what, because he's Barry Bonds, no one's going to say that? I mean, obviously he did it. (His trainer) admitted to giving steroids to baseball players. He just doesn't want to say his name. You don't have to. It's clear just seeing his body."

 

Rockies pitcher Denny Neagle also chimed in on the subject.

 

"It is a pretty good coincidence that some of the names that are linked to them are the guys that are the big, massive, overmuscular looking guys," Neagle told the Post.

 

"I don't know or remember what Jason Giambi looked like back in his early days, but I know he wasn't as big as he is now. The jury is always going to be out on Barry."

 

Speaking after the Giants' first full-squad workout at spring training, Bonds also hinted that he isn't going to put up with as much from pitchers this season -- but he didn't go as far as saying he'd retaliate if he gets hit.

 

"I'm not playing with any of these guys out there this year," he said. "It's going to be a battle and a war. That's just what it's going to be. I think sometimes a couple of people got a little bit too comfortable with me, and those things are going to change. And it's going to change quick. Real quick. ...

 

"There's going to be a respect level. I'll respect you if you respect me. But if not, then we're going deal with that on the field. ... I don't ever threaten anyone. But things will be different."

[Hugg]

Turk would win in a fight. He'd cheat. He'd do cool stuff like throw the reisen bag at Bonds and then kick him in the balls, or eye rakes, maybe some chair shots.

 

Turk rules.

[nc marlin]

I don't understand why he thinks that there is a double standard and that if it were him people would be saying that he used steroids for sure. I don't see that being the case.

 

 

Chicken Sh*t!!! haha. That Bonds interview was funny.

[Ramp]

Bonds' interview was great

[rferry]

What an absolute classless act from Wendell.

[Rune]

Poor Barry...

 

I love how atheletes always come out with "Test me if you want, I'll be the first in line" but when Sosa was asked he got offended. Barry is a complete and utter moron, oh wait excuse me...

 

OF#25 is a complete and utter moron.

[SorianoFanHFW]

Wendell is 100% right and I'm happy finally someone came out and said it. I would.

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Wendell is 100% right and I'm happy finally someone came out and said it. I would.

Meh. I still think Turk's awesome, but he was out of line with this. He has no proof, saying you can tell from his body type is hogwash, it's not proof. He has no business throwing other players in his union under the bus. It needs to be said, but he doesn't need to name names because he can't prove it. It's irresponsible.

[SorianoFanHFW]

Well, we don't have 100% proof OJ killed his wife, but we have 99.99999%, so I don't get mad at Leno for making fun of him. I applaud him.

[Hugg]

Well, we don't have 100% proof OJ killed his wife, but we have 99.99999%, so I don't get mad at Leno for making fun of him. I applaud him.

Yeah, nice comparison.

 

And Leno's a comedian. Wendell wasn't making jokes.

[SorianoFanHFW]

The point is that he's most likely true and to stand around and say nothing about the obvious is BS. Barry is disgracing the game.

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The point is that he's most likely true and to stand around and say nothing about the obvious is BS. Barry is disgracing the game.

Who cares if it's most likely true? He can't prove it. He can't back that statement up in any form. Period. It's not like he was sitting around BSing with his buddies, he said this to the media. That's out of line. End of story. You can argue with me all you want, you're wrong. It doesn't matter if Bonds is guilty or not, it hasn't been proven, so he doesn't need to be saying such things about Bonds, a peer and union member, in the media.

 

Awesome use of emoticons in your post by the way, very effective.

[Fish Fry]

Meh. I still think Turk's awesome, but he was out of line with this. He has no proof, saying you can tell from his body type is hogwash, it's not proof. He has no business throwing other players in his union under the bus. It needs to be said, but he doesn't need to name names because he can't prove it. It's irresponsible.

 

Turk was right on. You can tell from alterations in Barry's facial structure that the guy was using HGH. He displays a lot of the attirbutes that male bodybuilders display when they use that stuff. I'd like to know what type of weight training Barry did that made his face expand. Also, gaining that amount of muscle in such a short period of time in your late 30s without the aid of steroids and HGH is impossible. We're not talking about a guy who was big but not all that muscular to begin with. Barry was already muscular and in good shape.

[Fish Fry]

Who cares if it's most likely true? He can't prove it. He can't back that statement up in any form. Period. It's not like he was sitting around BSing with his buddies, he said this to the media. That's out of line. End of story. You can argue with me all you want, you're wrong. It doesn't matter if Bonds is guilty or not, it hasn't been proven, so he doesn't need to be saying such things about Bonds, a peer and union member, in the media.

 

Awesome use of emoticons in your post by the way, very effective.

 

Most people can't "prove" that women bodybuilders use steroids, but if we were talking about them and not Barry Bonds the steroid accusations would fly without any hesitation or objection. Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade. Barry hires one of the biggest steroid dealers in the country as his personal trainer, makes impossible muscle gains at an advanced age while displaying the facial characteristics of a heavy HGH user, and starts hitting the ball further than he ever has before at a time where 1. his productivity should be tapering-off and 2. he moved to an even tougher ballpark to hit homers in. What else is left? Does he have to drop his pants and stick the needle in his butt right in front of your face?

 

You don't think Turk knows someone that's played with Bonds that could definitely tell him if Barry is doing the stuff or not? There aren't that many MLB ballplayers in the world. Turk's been around long enough that I'm pretty sure he could tell you if there was a gay ballplayer on the Expos roster or if someone with the Padres is into bestiality.

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Most people can't "prove" that women bodybuilders use steroids, but if we were talking about them and not Barry Bonds the steroid accusations would fly without any hesitation or objection.? Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade.? Barry hires one of the biggest steroid dealers in the country as his personal trainer, makes impossible muscle gains at an advanced age while displaying the facial characteristics of a heavy HGH user, and starts hitting the ball further than he ever has before at a time where 1. his productivity should be tapering-off and 2. he moved to an even tougher ballpark to hit homers in.? What else is left?? Does he have to drop his pants and stick the needle in his butt right in front of your face??

 

You don't think Turk knows someone that's played with Bonds that could definitely tell him if Barry is doing the stuff or not?? There aren't that many MLB ballplayers in the world.? Turk's been around long enough that I'm pretty sure he could tell you if there was a gay ballplayer on the Expos roster or if someone with the Padres is into bestiality.

A) It doesn't matter if WE are talking about them. Who cares what we think, we're not in/or talking to the media. If another female bodybuilder comes out and accuses another female bodybuilder of being on steroids in the media, it's still wrong.

 

B) Turk didn't say someone he played with told him Bonds is on steroids. He said you can tell by looking at him. No, you can't. Period. I don't care if he's bigger, there's still the chance he's not on the juice, it may be slim, but it's there. Turk has no proof and he has no business making these accusations in the media. ESPECIALLY when it's a peer and fellow union member. You don't throw people under the bus like that. He didn't HELP anything, at all. You want to know how you do it, you do it like Todd Zeile did, he said it's clear that some people are doing this and it needs to stop. He would hope that if nothing else these people are haunted by this and don't do it without any hesitation. He didn't name names. What Turk Wendell did is akin to McCarthyism, he has no proof, he's singling out Bonds.

 

If Turk feels this way, he should quit the union that agreed to the current testing format. And, for the record, whether Bonds is juicing or not is a separate issue from this, Turk was still wrong to do this.

[g8trz2003]

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[Fish Fry]

A) It doesn't matter if WE are talking about them. Who cares what we think, we're not in/or talking to the media. If another female bodybuilder comes out and accuses another female bodybuilder of being on steroids in the media, it's still wrong.

 

B) Turk didn't say someone he played with told him Bonds is on steroids. He said you can tell by looking at him. No, you can't. Period. I don't care if he's bigger, there's still the chance he's not on the juice, it may be slim, but it's there. Turk has no proof and he has no business making these accusations in the media. ESPECIALLY when it's a peer and fellow union member. You don't throw people under the bus like that. He didn't HELP anything, at all. You want to know how you do it, you do it like Todd Zeile did, he said it's clear that some people are doing this and it needs to stop. He would hope that if nothing else these people are haunted by this and don't do it without any hesitation. He didn't name names. What Turk Wendell did is akin to McCarthyism, he has no proof, he's singling out Bonds.

 

1.) You can tell that Bonds is using HGH by looking at him.

 

2.) You don't know that Turk doesn't have confirmation of this from one of his fellow MLB players that works with Bonds before he decided to say what he said to the media. Saying "I know this from a guy who played with him" could put a friend in an unncecessary tight spot, when he alone wanted to make a statement.

 

3.) Please stop with this "McCarthyism" stuff. It's silly to compare this to the McCarthy witchhunts, because peoples lives were actually destroyed by McCarthy as opposed to some guy cheating at baseball. This is overreaction at its worst.

[SorianoFanHFW]

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When sparks fly, robots die, you go fish fry!

 

If someone hangs out with one of the most nortorious heroin dealers in the country (barry hangs with steroid dealer), acts like they are high on heroin (barry is big and muscular, the effect of steroids and or HGH), is highly connected with a heroin ring (barry is highly connected with balco), and has tracks on their arm (barry's face has grown a mile, but he has not admitted to hGH us, just creatine), then I say you have the right to call that someone a heroin addict and barry a steroid user. Just replace one drug's name with another, it's the same deal. If this guy was anyone else but 6 time MVP winner barry bonds, he would be getting more heat.

 

By the way, I have found shocking proof the sammy sosa is indeed a cheater

[Wild Card]

Even as a Phillie, I liked the crafty vet Turk. Seemed like a cool guy.

[Hugg]

In this county we're innocent until PROVEN (PROVEN, not Speculated to be) guilty.

 

Except Bonds, I guess.

 

Have fun with your witchhunt. I'll be over here being a classy individual and not throwing my peers under the bus.

 

Good night.

[MVPosey]

Wendell's a punk. He slandered Bonds just to get his name in the papers.

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Wendell's a punk.? He slandered Bonds just to get his name in the papers.

Most insightful post in your history.

 

And for the record, I personally think Bonds is on steroids, but that's not the issue. The issue is that Wendell has no business doing this in the media, it is slander (or maybe liable, actually, you know what I mean). It'd be like me going in the papers and saying some guy I work with cheats on his wife because I saw him walking down the street with another woman.

 

I mean, it sure looks like he does.

[MVPosey]

Wendell's a punk.? He slandered Bonds just to get his name in the papers.

Most insightful post in your history.

 

And for the record, I personally think Bonds is on steroids, but that's not the issue. The issue is that Wendell has no business doing this in the media, it is slander (or maybe liable, actually, you know what I mean). It'd be like me going in the papers and saying some guy I work with cheats on his wife because I saw him walking down the street with another woman.

 

I mean, it sure looks like he does. it's more like saying he cheats on wife becuase you saw him eating lunch with another woman. Saying something that's based on speculation as fact is still slander. Bonds may be on steroids, but until we actually find reasonable proof, then it's still slander. People talk about him using steroids like he always shoots up in front of him.

The only players that without a doubt use steroids are Derrick Turnbow and Termel Sledge, and that's because they've tested positive.

[SuperAngels]

The only players that without a doubt use steroids are Derrick Turnbow and Termel Sledge, and that's because they've tested positive.

Turnbow took a legal over-the-counter health product that is legal with MLB.

Turnbow is not considered a violator of MLB's steroid policy.

Turnbow only violated the IOCC rules which also ban cold remedy medicines.

[MVPosey]

The only players that without a doubt use steroids are Derrick Turnbow and Termel Sledge, and that's because they've tested positive.

Turnbow took a legal over-the-counter health product that is legal with MLB.

Turnbow is not considered a violator of MLB's steroid policy. it doesn't matter. What Turnbow took was still a form of steroids.

IF bonds took steroids, it wasn't in violation because it was before the policy took place, but if it turns out he took steroids, he's going to get just as much crap.