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  1. Cleo Lemon = Instant Offense
  2. Carroll can play CF, as can Cody Ross
  3. $12 MILLION!!!???!? Is there any realistic chance he outperforms or even meets the expectations of his contract? This move is definitely negative expected value for the Royals. Well I don't know the stadium metrics, but he hit much better outside of Safeco last year and in his brief 86 plate appearance career in Kauffman, he's hit .367/.400/.544 The Royals also suck. I dislike stadium splits. Too many variables. Fair enough Still I would guess that KS is a better stadium to hit in than Safeco
  4. Anyone know for sure if Jesse Chatman is playing today? Gado is starting
  5. $12 MILLION!!!???!? Is there any realistic chance he outperforms or even meets the expectations of his contract? This move is definitely negative expected value for the Royals. Well I don't know the stadium metrics, but he hit much better outside of Safeco last year and in his brief 86 plate appearance career in Kauffman, he's hit .367/.400/.544
  6. This is why you trade Kevin Gregg. and also, there's not much risk in a 1 year deal
  7. Andrew Miller is the type of pitcher that if we had to lose Dontrelle, but we had his arm to fall back on just leaves you with a smile on your face. The comparison with Randy Johnson is not an exageration. It actually might be a conservative projection. Think in terms of Josh Beckett but throwing from the left side. While I'm extremely giddy about Andrew Miller, some of you guys comparisons are off the charts
  8. pitching and defense were our weaknesses in 2007 , we obtained no immediate help in those areas , I think tiger trade 2-3 years down the line will bare fruit in both areas but in 08 I dont see much improvement which is kind of funny because I do think we have a fair shot of winning more games than 07. The platoon of Rabelo/Treanor automatically improves the defense of Olivo/Treanor With Cabs gone, anyone outside of Jorge Cantu at 3b more than likely improves the defense If it is Maybin in CF, our defense will improve in CF. Hell, if it's Carroll for 3 months, it improves out there. And for the hell of it, I'm going to say Hanley will be improved too
  9. Yeah, Hanley's pretty much the man. Over the course of many at bats that man is the man no matter where you put him in the lineup. I know I may get killed for saying this, but I thought Hanley was a better hitter than Miggy last season. In fact, I'll go so far as predict that he'll be the best all around hitter in all of baseball within 2-3 years. I just hope we buy out a few years of his arbitration at least. i hope we offer him a huge 15 year deal once a stadium deal is done but i know its not going to happen I hope we don't offer him a 15 year deal
  10. Why, Rickey Henderson never hit anywhere else besides lead-off! Ricky Henderson couldn't hold Hanley's jock, slugging wise
  11. Why is everyone dropping Hanley in the batting order? From what I remember he was far more superior in the lead-off spot than any other spot in the order. He actually looked uncomfortable in other spots in the order. batting first: .345/.405/.596 batting third: .297/.333/.455 doesn't matter though, he eventually is going to be a middle order hitter, might as well start now
  12. One hit wonders. who? One Republic or Boog?
  13. Andino became unpopular when he chose family over team a fourteen months ago and could have handled the situation much better. But in his defense the kid is just that, a kid. If you want to carry a grudge forever so be it but I'm open-minded (which is not the same as optimistic) about him. I highly doubt that's why anyone here dislikes the guy I suppose it's a different crowd now but I'm pretty sure it was an issue here a year or so ago. Maybe you're right, but I don't recall that if anything it was the pouting that made the Marlins send out Hill and Jennings to the AFL and set him straight although this all may have been connected
  14. Andino became unpopular when he chose family over team a fourteen months ago and could have handled the situation much better. But in his defense the kid is just that, a kid. If you want to carry a grudge forever so be it but I'm open-minded (which is not the same as optimistic) about him. I highly doubt that's why anyone here dislikes the guy
  15. dudes getting drilled in the groin
  16. None of our Minor league prospects are sexy like an Andrew Miller. That's not a good thing. yea but it's not like Miller isn't a top 10 or so pitching prospect
  17. young guys are not made for the bench. Especially a guy like Andino who has been a starter all his life and thinks hes a badass. It takes a different ballplayer to be a good bench guy. It's a different ballgame being in the dugout. You are not getting anything for Andino. He has more value to the Marlins to hopefully replace Amezaga next year. Secondly, I understand you want a 3B but why do you want to start a young 3Bs arbitration clock in a non contending year by trading off all undervalued pieces. i.e. You want to move Nolasco when he's shown nothing for a year. Selling low is a terrible idea. The best move for the Marlins is to wait and field the cheapest possible team. They should stopgap 3B for 2008 and then reassess the organizations pitching strength after the year. See how the MLB guys are doing. See how the MiLB guys are doing. See who looks like they are going to make it and who not. Then make a decision to bring someone in who can grow with the team along the same projection path as Hanley/Hermida/Maybin and all the pitchers. i.e. get an incredibly price affordable 3B for the 2010-2012 seasons. Setting off an arbitration clock now while trading your pitching is pretty pointless. This is also why Maybin should start in AA this season and at earliest be called up in July. Don't worry. You'll get your trades. I expect the Marlins to move sometime in the next year Gregg/Uggla/Olsen/Mitre/Amezaga, maybe Cody, maybe one of Jacobs/Willingham, and if possible (if they somehow keep it up) Miller and Gardner. None of that is going to effect our longterm outlook and it will easily net all the remaining pieces this club needs. Just right now is a bad idea. How is trading Miller and Gardner a bad idea right now? And since when do you start a players arbitration clock when the team is competitive? There are no certainties that Maybin will excel right away. That's why this year is a rebuilding year. Let players suck now as opposed to later. maybin doesnt have as many proffessional at bats where you would want him to make the jump to the majors. its like drafting someone out of high school and saying were going to start you today against josh beckett. you don't want to put the guy in a situation where if he fails horribly he could regress as a ballplayer and take years to make it back to where he was. i didnt notice it but i'm sure someone will mention the tools-stats issue that a guy with tools has the ability to succeed in the majors like hanley did but you cant look at that without looking at the 100s of abercrombies for each hanley and unlike maybin hanley had gotten some abs in the minors as for miller and gardner sell high as in right now don't ever bring up Abercombie with Hanley's or Maybin's name in the same sentence ever in your life again. His intentions were right. I mean, how many guys are out there with five tools like these guys that fail opposed to succeeding? how many of them dominated A ball like he did, and was so well thought of that Detroit brought him up at age 20? there is no comparison Are you lacking reading comprehension? I never said anything about comparing Reggie Ambercromsuck and Maybin... Maybin is Miguel Cabrera stuck in Hanley Ramirez's body. He most certainly is not Miguel Cabrera either stop with these silly comparisons
  18. young guys are not made for the bench. Especially a guy like Andino who has been a starter all his life and thinks hes a badass. It takes a different ballplayer to be a good bench guy. It's a different ballgame being in the dugout. You are not getting anything for Andino. He has more value to the Marlins to hopefully replace Amezaga next year. Secondly, I understand you want a 3B but why do you want to start a young 3Bs arbitration clock in a non contending year by trading off all undervalued pieces. i.e. You want to move Nolasco when he's shown nothing for a year. Selling low is a terrible idea. The best move for the Marlins is to wait and field the cheapest possible team. They should stopgap 3B for 2008 and then reassess the organizations pitching strength after the year. See how the MLB guys are doing. See how the MiLB guys are doing. See who looks like they are going to make it and who not. Then make a decision to bring someone in who can grow with the team along the same projection path as Hanley/Hermida/Maybin and all the pitchers. i.e. get an incredibly price affordable 3B for the 2010-2012 seasons. Setting off an arbitration clock now while trading your pitching is pretty pointless. This is also why Maybin should start in AA this season and at earliest be called up in July. Don't worry. You'll get your trades. I expect the Marlins to move sometime in the next year Gregg/Uggla/Olsen/Mitre/Amezaga, maybe Cody, maybe one of Jacobs/Willingham, and if possible (if they somehow keep it up) Miller and Gardner. None of that is going to effect our longterm outlook and it will easily net all the remaining pieces this club needs. Just right now is a bad idea. How is trading Miller and Gardner a bad idea right now? And since when do you start a players arbitration clock when the team is competitive? There are no certainties that Maybin will excel right away. That's why this year is a rebuilding year. Let players suck now as opposed to later. maybin doesnt have as many proffessional at bats where you would want him to make the jump to the majors. its like drafting someone out of high school and saying were going to start you today against josh beckett. you don't want to put the guy in a situation where if he fails horribly he could regress as a ballplayer and take years to make it back to where he was. i didnt notice it but i'm sure someone will mention the tools-stats issue that a guy with tools has the ability to succeed in the majors like hanley did but you cant look at that without looking at the 100s of abercrombies for each hanley and unlike maybin hanley had gotten some abs in the minors as for miller and gardner sell high as in right now don't ever bring up Abercombie with Hanley's or Maybin's name in the same sentence ever in your life again. His intentions were right. I mean, how many guys are out there with five tools like these guys that fail opposed to succeeding? how many of them dominated A ball like he did, and was so well thought of that Detroit brought him up at age 20? there is no comparison
  19. young guys are not made for the bench. Especially a guy like Andino who has been a starter all his life and thinks hes a badass. It takes a different ballplayer to be a good bench guy. It's a different ballgame being in the dugout. You are not getting anything for Andino. He has more value to the Marlins to hopefully replace Amezaga next year. Secondly, I understand you want a 3B but why do you want to start a young 3Bs arbitration clock in a non contending year by trading off all undervalued pieces. i.e. You want to move Nolasco when he's shown nothing for a year. Selling low is a terrible idea. The best move for the Marlins is to wait and field the cheapest possible team. They should stopgap 3B for 2008 and then reassess the organizations pitching strength after the year. See how the MLB guys are doing. See how the MiLB guys are doing. See who looks like they are going to make it and who not. Then make a decision to bring someone in who can grow with the team along the same projection path as Hanley/Hermida/Maybin and all the pitchers. i.e. get an incredibly price affordable 3B for the 2010-2012 seasons. Setting off an arbitration clock now while trading your pitching is pretty pointless. This is also why Maybin should start in AA this season and at earliest be called up in July. Don't worry. You'll get your trades. I expect the Marlins to move sometime in the next year Gregg/Uggla/Olsen/Mitre/Amezaga, maybe Cody, maybe one of Jacobs/Willingham, and if possible (if they somehow keep it up) Miller and Gardner. None of that is going to effect our longterm outlook and it will easily net all the remaining pieces this club needs. Just right now is a bad idea. How is trading Miller and Gardner a bad idea right now? And since when do you start a players arbitration clock when the team is competitive? There are no certainties that Maybin will excel right away. That's why this year is a rebuilding year. Let players suck now as opposed to later. maybin doesnt have as many proffessional at bats where you would want him to make the jump to the majors. its like drafting someone out of high school and saying were going to start you today against josh beckett. you don't want to put the guy in a situation where if he fails horribly he could regress as a ballplayer and take years to make it back to where he was. i didnt notice it but i'm sure someone will mention the tools-stats issue that a guy with tools has the ability to succeed in the majors like hanley did but you cant look at that without looking at the 100s of abercrombies for each hanley and unlike maybin hanley had gotten some abs in the minors as for miller and gardner sell high as in right now mentioning Maybin in the same breath as Reggie makes me sad
  20. This thread needs to happen July 15thish when Maybin/Volstad/Gaby/Owens/Anibal are ready for the MLB team. Most of those guys will be useful to organizational purposes until then. We should only trade if its to get more value in return. Obviously, that is what the ultimate goal is with anybody you trade. But the thing is they need to go. We have holes in 3rd and even at Catcher and way too many pitching prospects. Alot of these guys are taking up space and are already proven to us what they can do. We need to try something new and revamp as much as we can. We traded our core - so lets trade our mediocre guys please. Of course for the best possible deal. Duh. Well you don't just toss Jacobs, Mitre, Nolasco aside... those are more than capable players, and all 3 do have some upside to them too and why is Kensing and Nestor in your mediocre pile? you don't just toss players with good arms away Nestor seems to be in demand somewhat and is not on any top prospect list. Kensing was brought up too quick, is done as a starter and we have tons of pitching. He's not pitching like a high draft choice, which he was. He needs to be traded while he is still young and we can get some value back in return Jacobs - I used to be ok with, but he's been given enough opportunities and he's proven to just be an injury risk. He doesn't feed off of our park and he can't defend well. He had the lowest OPS of all starting 1st basemen too. We know what his ceiling is - somewhere along the lines of .275 32 HR and a low OPS for such a high HR total. He is what he is. When he came from the Mets, I thought he was more (AVG and OPS wise) but he isn't. We need to see what we can get for him. Mitre is a 4.50 ERA guy and there are plenty of those around. Nolasco is a 4.10 ERA guy and just has that great curveball. He'd make a decent closer but thats not our plans with him here. He needs to go too. Some of your reasoning is terrible. Nestor is our best bullpen prospect right now. You normally don't see bullpen guys in top 10s to begin with. He's probably in the 2nd 10. Kensing is a solid bullpen arm, there's just no reason to move him. You move guys like Miller and Gardner who pitched over their head. We have no idea what Jacobs' ceiling is because he's been hurt each of his first 2 years. He's probably not worth much, but he can definitely be a guy to put up big numbers at 1b if he can just stay healthy. I have no clue what you think you can get for him though. Nothing worth much. Not only that, who do you want to play first? Hammer? Fine, who plays left then? It's not like Jake is blocking anyone. so Mitre is a 4.50era guy, and there are plenty of those around. Who would want him then if they are so easy to get? Ricky Nolasco has made 40 appearances in the league, how the hell do we know what kind of guy he is? If there was a market, and people wanted these players and would give us something useful, then fine, move them. But their not, and they aren't making any money so for us, it works. How is it terrible? We have tons of bullpen arms and that's not counting the arms we have as starters that will switch to the bullpen. We do know what Jake's ceiling is. We know his numbers somewhat, and we've seen him for quite sometime now to see his raw abilities. At least I have. We've seen what Ricky can do, and that's enough to sell me that he's not in our long term plans. There are so many players in the MLB and these fit in the middle to maybe even upper middle in hierarchy. I'm sure we can get something at least equal in value. We drafted, traded etc etc for pitching pitching pitching. Most of those pitchers are not top tier prospects anymore (just look where we rank in the BA prospect list overall). What ever happened to trading some of these pitchers for quality hitting? Isn't that partially the reason why we stacked up so much on pitching? so now 2 seasons (Jake) and 1 season (Nolasco) are enough to make judgements on knowing exactly what these guys can do? In all honesty, who do you think the Marlins can get for these players anyway? Certainly not a young catcher
  21. Since utility guys are 2nd to 3rd tier players. They mostly are 2nd hand players that are not good enough to start. Yea you can project them, but its hazy to do so since theyre not good enough and will most likely suck and won't get enough PT to begin with... ok so therefore he has 0 value and there is no reason to move him because no one will want him
  22. Calling Andino useless is laughable He's going to make a real good utility guy 'Cause those aren't dime a dozen... bleh No response? Huh? my response is you discounting someone who is 23 that's my response
  23. Betting closed: Your winners: Under 2 days Hanley Ramriez -1200 and Other +250.. I'm a big dork :lol Congrats to whoever Edited that... your just as classy as the Marlins :thumbup nobody edited it when you say "that 's so marlins" it will do that automatically
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