Piazza31

Troll hard, Penguino- Troll Hard.

If you think that the 2013 team will surprise us, that means that you think that it has some upside. What I believe is that you have an over inflated ego, who believes you projected everything that happened when you simply use hindsight as the basis of your argument. The 2013 team has the same upside the 2006 team did at this point. More even. The 2006 team didn't have a starting rotation like this 2013 could have (if healthy). Do you sincerely believe the 2006 starting rotation had more upside than this years (Injuries aside) Brian Moehler Dontrelle Willis Scott Olsen Ricky Nolasco Sergio Mitre over Ricky Nolasco Jose Fernandez Nathan Eovaldi Henderson Alvarez Kevin Slowey Injuries aside then JJ would be over Mitre. I would take Willis over Nolasco, Fernandez or Mohler, Eovaldi over Olsen, J.J. over Alverez and 05' Nolasco over 13' Slowey. JJ was in the bullpen. He wasn't in the rotation on opening day or the month of April.

No minor league numbers don't mean everything but if players don't succeed in the minors there's almost 0% chance they produce in the Bigs. Josh Hamilton. Is this a joke? First of all, his numbers were fine for low level minors. And secondly, don't you think it's pretty idiotic to say that minor league numbers mean little and then use a heroin addict as your best example? Seriously. Your reading comprehension is lacking. I addressed the end of his statement. The jokes on you.

The 2006 Marlins had Josh Willingham hitting clean-up. The 2013 Marlins have Placido Polanco. and who was Josh Willingham at that time except a young player with potential? Polanco won't remain the cleanup hitter if he isn't producing. Someone else will move into it until we find a player that can run with it. We didn't expect the 2006 team to do what it did either. My point is that the 2006 hitters had much more potential/upside than the 2013 hitters do. That's why 2013 will be nothing like 2006. I actually anticipated decent production from guys like Willingham and Uggla because they crushed the minor leagues and just didn't have much of an opportunity to play in the big leagues yet. The Diamondbacks are on line one. They want to know who of Alberto Callapso, Andy Green, Robby Hammock and Tony Clark they should have DFA'd to make room for the disenfranchised Uggla. You speak of Uggla and Willingham as if they were slaves being held back by the man. The truth is neither took their "opportunity" by the balls and ran with it. I don't remember many arguing for Uggla when Pokey Reese was the projected second baseman. You are aware that those guys you mention put up pretty solid numbers of their respective levels, right? Even at the time the Diamondbacks basically said that they didn't want to get rid of Uggla but they simply had no choice. As for Reese, if the Marlins actually thought that he had more upside than Uggla, just mark it down as another one of their bone-headed decisions. Uggla's minor league numbers absolutely trumps what Reese did in 2003 and 2004--Reese didn't even play in the big leagues in 2005. As for Willingham, he was absolutely destroying the minors in 2004 and 2005. He was clearly ready for a prolonged MLB stint, especially since the offense in those years was pretty anemic at times (especially 2005). I'd say that Willingham absolutely was held back by the man. The choice was made to keep those players on the 40 man roster over a minor league they "Had no choice" in giving up. Your starting to remind me of the 2003 Pirates Rule 5 Draft.

No minor league numbers don't mean everything but if players don't succeed in the minors there's almost 0% chance they produce in the Bigs. Josh Hamilton. Career .291 hitter in the minors and was hitting .350 before getting called up in 07. I'm sorry, I thought snorting your entire minor league career counted as failure. Allow me: Dave Winfield

The 2006 Marlins had Josh Willingham hitting clean-up. The 2013 Marlins have Placido Polanco. and who was Josh Willingham at that time except a young player with potential? Polanco won't remain the cleanup hitter if he isn't producing. Someone else will move into it until we find a player that can run with it. We didn't expect the 2006 team to do what it did either. I think what he's trying to say is that the team in 06 was a bunch of young guys with potential rather than this years team which is filled with players who are passed their prime or haven't been successful in the past. Instead of players like Ramirez, Hermida, Uggla, Jacobs, Willingham we have Kotchman, Polanco, Pierre, Solano, Ruggiano. I agree that this team can surprise a lot of people but I don't expect a year like 2006. Pretty much. It's pretty ignorant actually to think the level of offensive upside for the 2013 line-up is even close to what it was in 2006. If theres one thing you should recognize, it's ignorance. It's like a hooker finding a John.

If you think that the 2013 team will surprise us, that means that you think that it has some upside. What I believe is that you have an over inflated ego, who believes you projected everything that happened when you simply use hindsight as the basis of your argument. The 2013 team has the same upside the 2006 team did at this point. More even. The 2006 team didn't have a starting rotation like this 2013 could have (if healthy). Do you sincerely believe the 2006 starting rotation had more upside than this years (Injuries aside) Brian Moehler Dontrelle Willis Scott Olsen Ricky Nolasco Sergio Mitre over Ricky Nolasco Jose Fernandez Nathan Eovaldi Henderson Alvarez Kevin Slowey

No minor league numbers don't mean everything but if players don't succeed in the minors there's almost 0% chance they produce in the Bigs. Josh Hamilton.

The 2006 Marlins had Josh Willingham hitting clean-up. The 2013 Marlins have Placido Polanco. and who was Josh Willingham at that time except a young player with potential? Polanco won't remain the cleanup hitter if he isn't producing. Someone else will move into it until we find a player that can run with it. We didn't expect the 2006 team to do what it did either. My point is that the 2006 hitters had much more potential/upside than the 2013 hitters do. That's why 2013 will be nothing like 2006. I actually anticipated decent production from guys like Willingham and Uggla because they crushed the minor leagues and just didn't have much of an opportunity to play in the big leagues yet. The Diamondbacks are on line one. They want to know who of Alberto Callapso, Andy Green, Robby Hammock and Tony Clark they should have DFA'd to make room for the disenfranchised Uggla. You speak of Uggla and Willingham as if they were slaves being held back by the man. The truth is neither took their "opportunity" by the balls and ran with it. I don't remember many arguing for Uggla when Pokey Reese was the projected second baseman.

The 2006 Marlins had Josh Willingham hitting clean-up. The 2013 Marlins have Placido Polanco. Oh, you mean THE Josh Willingham? Josh Willingham, and all 28 of his previous MLB games in two combined seasons before he was the "Clean up Hitter" for a team full of prospects? The Josh Willingham who had one career HR before batting cleanup in 2006? You know, the Josh Willingham who had 58 Plate apperances before 2006. I mean the Willingham who absolutely destroyed minor league pitching in 2004 and 2005 to the point where people on this board were begging that the Marlins call him up. Unless you weren't a Marlins fan then, you should have remembered that he was regarded as having quite a bit of upside--particularly in his power and plate discipline--leading into the 2006 season. That level of upside is not present in washed up guys like Polanco and Pierre or players with a long history of mediocrity like Kotchman, Coghlan, and Solano. Or guys like Hecchavarria who haven't hit at any level. Yeah Bro, I get you- Minor League numbers mean everything- You know, when they serve your purpose. Doom and Gloom. I get you.

Offensive f*ckery. At least there were no errors. Let's see if the offense does anything tomorrow before judging it on one game against a freak Any team that wins one game vs. Haren, Gonzalez and Strasburg should consider themselves lucky. Any team that loses those games and goes on to play the Mets can also consider themselves lucky.

Figured we'd get shut out against Strasburg. Moving on. Alot of teams are going to get shut out by Strasburg, the fact we got hits against him was promising.

For those arguing Miggy over Mikey: 2003: Miggy Started in 30 Games his first year at 3B, and 55 in the OF. His 30 games came mostly after Lowells Broken Hand. 2004: Miggy played 158 games in the OF, NONE at 3B 2005: Miggy Played 134 in LF, and 29 at 3B. 2006: Played 3B Only 2007: Played 3B Only Meanwhile; Lowell played 7 years for the Marlins at 3B, providing not only Gold Glove Defense but also a Silver Slugger quality bat and made 3 ASG appearances. In summary, Miggy played 2 years at 3B. Lowell played 7 years of stellar 3B. Why do you think Miggy should be the Franchise's Finest at 3B over Lowell? Miggy may have been the better player, but he wasn't the better 3B. Cab's doesn't really have a position in this list, Sheffield and Conine meant more to the Marlins, and Lowell was the prototypical 3B. Miggy for DH- the position-less position for the position-less player.

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At this point, I can't even fake being shocked or surprised by anything this team does. So you know about "Peanut Butter Night"? The oh so glorious "Jiffy" sponsored event that coincides with "Bark at the Park" this year.

it's the front page story on Yahoo. headline: Surprising roster move reeks of desperation They're 100% right. Ofcourse, because you know everything?

Also, I think Jose will be fine and will post similar numbers that Kershaw did when he was called up. I still don't get how this organization suddenly has 2 SP go on the DL the day before opening day. That is what is incompetent. Teams normally wait until the season starts to put people on the DL. They were DL'ed retroactively to the 23rd and 24th.... one week prior. They are giving them up to a month to get their ish together..... What don't you get?

calling up a guy who hasn't pitched above A-ball is desperate. that's not even debatable. May I ask- When you buy insurance, are you: A) Buying in case shit happens or B) Because shit is gonna happen? Realistically, between yourself and a few other posters you would swear the sky is falling.

Natitude sounds like the symptom of a bad STD. Can't wait to be Washington's Antibiotics. Go Marlins!

3/31/13 Fernandez signs contract...... I did?Yes, a contract with herpes. I was wondering what that was.

3/31/13 Fernandez signs contract...... I did?

Is anyone else convinced that this is purely Loria's decision to call up Fernandez so early? This definitely seems like a Jeffrey Loria move to me. Didnt even think about that. I'd put it at 90% Loria 10% BeinfestLoria did call Fernandez and tell him he's been promoted- I wonder if Beinfest knew Fernandez was on his way to Washington?

ruggiano to third.

I don't know if Cox clears waivers to be honest. He has to be on a ML 40 man roster because of his contract, and he is out of options. Any team that pick him up will Lose that 40 man spot. Right now, I think the marlins believe no one will claim him and they'll open a slot up on the 40. Hernandez I think gets claimed by Seattle or the Yankees.

I personally saw him pitch 3 innings against the cardinals and Redmond warm him him between innings. It would be foolish to believe they based his development on two innings of spring ball. While I don't believe you are intelligent, I thought you weren't that foolish.