Dancin'_Homer Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Okay, so did Admin Bowa protest the ground-rule double when he went to the dugout phone or not. If so, what happens now? I thought it was clearly a GRD and couldn't understand why Bowa was getting so worked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reclusedx Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I dont think it would matter because the Umpire called a ground rule double right after Conine lifted his hands......if the umpire hadnt called and insisted it was fair then Conine could of gotten the ball , thrown it in and it would of only been a double....not a run....maybe i'm wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pray 4 Rain Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 It would have only been a double if Niner had grabbed the ball. Bowa was just being Bowa. The ball went into an area of the field that was inaccessible and couldn?t be played. That clearly needs to be defined at the new park. Probably just one of those things that somebody missed until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 the rule book is very clear on this. A ground rule double call, cannot be reversed ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 It's just dumb....put some extra padding in that area and you wont have this problem anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'_Homer Posted April 22, 2004 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 That's a good point. Why the hell did they put padding on the wall that leaves just enough room for a ball to get lodged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFans46 Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 The problem is, there is no "ground rule double" if there is no ground rule to say what is out of play. If no rule was ever made, Bowa was justified in protesting - not as long as he did, but he did have a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 The problem is, there is no "ground rule double" if there is no ground rule to say what is out of play. If no rule was ever made, Bowa was justified in protesting - not as long as he did, but he did have a point. As the announcers said, it was more a show to get his team fired up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'_Homer Posted April 22, 2004 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 I guess that brings me back to my original question: Was the game "officially" protested and does anything happen now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I think BBTN said that if there are no clear cut definition of home park GRD's, that there are universal GRD's that come into play...meaning that if the park doesn't cover something concerning GRD, an umpire can determine what can be a GRD and thats what the 2nd base umpire did when Niner put his arms up...Polanco did start to slow down right before touching 2nd,and the Phillies announcers said the 2nd base umpire did signal a GRD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFans46 Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 They said on the radio that yes, the game was played under protest. I don't know when we'll hear about the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsMY Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 They said on the radio that yes, the game was played under protest. I don't know when we'll hear about the results. Both articles on MLB.com also mention that the Phillies played under protest for the rest of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Cry me a river Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'_Homer Posted April 22, 2004 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 From baseball-almanac.com Rule 7.05: 7.05 Each runner including the batter runner may, without liability to be put out, advance- (f) Two bases, if a fair ball bounces or is deflected into the stands outside the first or third base foul lines; or if it goes through or under a field fence, or through or under a scoreboard, or through or under shrubbery or vines on the fence; OR IF IT STICKS IN SUCH FENCE, scoreboard, shrubbery or vines; CB park -- from my understanding -- has no published ground rules. (?) Given this and the clarity of the rule, any protest would seem to be a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 When is Bowa getting fired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 rofl, that's just hysterical.... "ok, as for the padding on the outfield wall, let's attach that JUUUUST high enough off the ground where something the size of, oh I dunno.... maybe a BASEBALL could fit underneath it." :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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