djm305 Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 It's funny how a bad road-trip like this causes all of you to panic. Everyone is talking about who should be traded and sent to triple A. I mean it's not like doing bad on a West Coast Roadtrip is new to this team. Last season we did a lot worse on that roadtrip, I was not in here at the time but I'd bet you guys were saying "Season Over" or something along those lines. I mean our pitching staff (Bullpen Especially) did a terrific job through the first 16 games or so. There are players in slumps on both our pitching staff and offense. But all in all our offense has been scoring a ton of runms for us. I say our Offenese is less of a problem than you guys make it seem. Also, as far as pitching goes. Everyone is quick to jump on the bullpen here, I mean they were heavily overused on this roadtrip, I am not making excuses for them but the bottom line is our starting pitching failed us also (not just Oliver). We are coming home now, we got a days rest, Beckett is starting and will hopefully have a solid start to give our bullpen an extra day off. I was laughing pretty hard when I came onto the forum this morning and all I see is "Oli..sucks part 3" "f-- gonzo" "f--- Oliver" "trades..." "bump to triple A" etc etc... It's like everytime a guy YOU dislike has a bad day it's time to start the HATE threads... Hey if that makes you happy then go for it.... all I am saying is think about the positives too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFan24 Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 I'm not in a panic. Sure a 4-3 or 5-2 road trip would have been better, but does anyone remember last year's trip to Colorado and San Fran? :mischief2 Exactly. This road trip was much more productive and we are still in first place!! Other than the bullpen, the team has been playing great and its still a long season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 Agreed. We are still in a good position...leading the NL East. It will be great to have the team back home, where they can settle in, get refocused and get the job done. The early part of the season is a learning exercise....to find out which combinations work. Adjustments will be made adn by mid-season we should be on a roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 It's the end of April, we're struggling, and STILL in first place. People, we're going to be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 I agree there is no need to panic, but I don't mind people pointing out that players are not performing. Last year we got better as the season went along, and a big reason why is because by the end of the year all of the players that weren't performing at the beginning of the year (Nunez, Hollandsworth, Almanza) were either not with the team or were on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djm305 Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 I agree there is no need to panic, but I don't mind people pointing out that players are not performing.? Last year we got better as the season went along, and a big reason why is because by the end of the year all of the players that weren't performing at the beginning of the year (Nunez, Hollandsworth, Almanza) were either not with the team or were on the bench. As if we need people to POINT out who is doing bad. We all know who is struggling. We don't need a new thread for every bad outing Darren Oliver has or or everytime Agon strikes out. I will admit that there are only a few guys who come here to post those threads. This message is obviously not directed at you if you have something constructive to say and NOT something that is completely obvious. If you are gonna point something out that maybe we hadn;t thought about then it's totally understandable. edit: THE OBVIOUS - Darren Oliver sucks, Agon struggles at the plate, Bump is not the best of releivers, Castro is slumping. Ok we all know about these guys and their struggles... We don't need a new thread about these guys everyday. I have a recommendation to make to the moderators in this board. How about we start a Complaint Forum where people can go and b***h and moan about these guys everyday and that way it makes this Forum a little easier to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamarlins3 Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 It's the end of April, we're struggling, and STILL in first place. People, we're going to be fine. By 2.5 games at that too. Some things will need to be changed, but from where I sit if you told me the marlins had 16 out of first 25 games away and a big west coast trip, and the marlins would still be in first place by 2.5 games I'd be elated so good first month in my book :thumbup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 Anyone remember the last time the Marlins were in first place this late into the season. I love these posts about how every little mistake or miscue is a disaster waiting to grow into a catastrophe. Its as if the players aren't trying hard enough because they're in first place. Honestly with the exception of a game here or there the Marlins have had a chace to win just about every game this season. They're playing forty percentage points higher than last year. My how the expectations have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 It has nothing to wether we are in first place or not.There are some issues that need to be address if the fish are to remain on top.We need to do something about Oliver but he doesn't belong in the starting rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djm305 Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 It has nothing to wether we are in first place or not.There are some issues that need to be address if the fish are to remain on top.We need to do something about Oliver but he doesn't belong in the starting rotation. Yea that is obvious.... But none of us here have the power to do that so constantly bringing it up does nothing more than annoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 It has nothing to wether we are in first place or not.There are some issues that need to be address if the fish are to remain on top.We need to do something about Oliver but he doesn't belong in the starting rotation. Yea that is obvious.... But none of us here have the power to do that so constantly bringing it up does nothing more than annoy. Why is the mesage board here?For us (Fans) to vent and voice our opinions on matters concerning the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 We? We? Do you got a mouse in your pocket? You might mean THEY. Its not like the Marlins are sitting back waiting for things to happen and I don't think they're waiting for our advice. Give the team some credit. Last year they needed players and went out and got them, this season now a month old and pieces are still falling into place. The team that left Jupiter last spring was not the same team that won the series, just like this will not be the team for the rest of this season. When changes are needed they will be made, but not by you or me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 We? We? Do you got a mouse in your pocket? You might mean THEY. Its not like the Marlins are sitting back waiting for things to happen and I don't think they're waiting for our advice. Give the team some credit. Last year they needed players and went out and got them, this season now a month old and pieces are still falling into place. The team that left Jupiter last spring was not the same team that won the series, just like this will not be the team for the rest of this season. When changes are needed they will be made, but not by you or me. Yes,I meant to say They and why you expect for every one to be a homer?No one is asking for them to trade for another starter but bring up someone up from farm system or give somebody else shot at 5th starter spot. Again......... Why is MB here for?If you don't like the tittle of the topic or want to debate the topic than don't open the thread.What you really want is a boring and dull place filled with threads on positives things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djm305 Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 It has nothing to wether we are in first place or not.There are some issues that need to be address if the fish are to remain on top.We need to do something about Oliver but he doesn't belong in the starting rotation. Yea that is obvious.... But none of us here have the power to do that so constantly bringing it up does nothing more than annoy. Why is the mesage board here?For us (Fans) to vent and voice our opinions on matters concerning the team. Uhhh...no this board is not here are your personal diary of anger. We all get mad when players do not perform, I can understand the Oliver Sucks thread, I can't understand why it has been posted like 10 times. I can understand everyone's frustration with Agon, but do we really need to hear your b***hing everytime he strikes out? Whatever, I am not pin-pointing anyone and maybe no-one agree's with me. I for one like coming to this forum to get all my Marlins info, but I am becoming incresingly more annoyed at the amount of garbage posts and lack of constructive ones. We all have our opinions, since we are all fans. I don't see the point of b***hing and whinning about certain players on a daily basis. Seriously It hink a seperate forum for ANGER would be appropriate. People could spam all they want about all the players they hate. Makes this forum a little easier to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 I have to agree with minus, if you don't like the thread stay out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djm305 Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 We? We? Do you got a mouse in your pocket? You might mean THEY. Its not like the Marlins are sitting back waiting for things to happen and I don't think they're waiting for our advice. Give the team some credit. Last year they needed players and went out and got them, this season now a month old and pieces are still falling into place. The team that left Jupiter last spring was not the same team that won the series, just like this will not be the team for the rest of this season. When changes are needed they will be made, but not by you or me. Yes,I meant to say They and why you expect for every one to be a homer?No one is asking for them to trade for another starter but bring up someone up from farm system or give somebody else shot at 5th starter spot. Again......... Why is MB here for?If you don't like the tittle of the topic or want to debate the topic than don't open the thread.What you really want is a boring and dull place filled with threads on positives things. Your missing the point, all posts don't have to be positive. There are other ways to crticize players and moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildMarlinMan2003 Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 It has nothing to wether we are in first place or not.There are some issues that need to be address if the fish are to remain on top.We need to do something about Oliver but he doesn't belong in the starting rotation. Yea that is obvious.... But none of us here have the power to do that so constantly bringing it up does nothing more than annoy. Why is the mesage board here?For us (Fans) to vent and voice our opinions on matters concerning the team. Uhhh...no this board is not here are your personal diary of anger. We all get mad when players do not perform, I can understand the Oliver Sucks thread, I can't understand why it has been posted like 10 times. I can understand everyone's frustration with Agon, but do we really need to hear your b***hing everytime he strikes out? Whatever, I am not pin-pointing anyone and maybe no-one agree's with me. I for one like coming to this forum to get all my Marlins info, but I am becoming incresingly more annoyed at the amount of garbage posts and lack of constructive ones. We all have our opinions, since we are all fans. I don't see the point of b***hing and whinning about certain players on a daily basis. Seriously It hink a seperate forum for ANGER would be appropriate. People could spam all they want about all the players they hate. Makes this forum a little easier to read. Look man, we are all fans. We like to talk about the good (winning games, rings, etc.) and the bad (AGon, Oliver, Bump, etc.). Just don't pay attention to the bad if it bothers you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 It has nothing to wether we are in first place or not.There are some issues that need to be address if the fish are to remain on top.We need to do something about Oliver but he doesn't belong in the starting rotation. Yea that is obvious.... But none of us here have the power to do that so constantly bringing it up does nothing more than annoy. Why is the mesage board here?For us (Fans) to vent and voice our opinions on matters concerning the team. Uhhh...no this board is not here are your personal diary of anger. We all get mad when players do not perform, I can understand the Oliver Sucks thread, I can't understand why it has been posted like 10 times. I can understand everyone's frustration with Agon, but do we really need to hear your b***hing everytime he strikes out? Whatever, I am not pin-pointing anyone and maybe no-one agree's with me. I for one like coming to this forum to get all my Marlins info, but I am becoming incresingly more annoyed at the amount of garbage posts and lack of constructive ones. We all have our opinions, since we are all fans. I don't see the point of b***hing and whinning about certain players on a daily basis. Seriously It hink a seperate forum for ANGER would be appropriate. People could spam all they want about all the players they hate. Makes this forum a little easier to read. Look man, we are all fans. We like to talk about the good (winning games, rings, etc.) and the bad (AGon, Oliver, Bump, etc.). Just don't pay attention to the bad if it bothers you. Exactly... Avoid the post that you find annoying.There no need to censor anyone opinion even if all he or she post is negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djm305 Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 It has nothing to wether we are in first place or not.There are some issues that need to be address if the fish are to remain on top.We need to do something about Oliver but he doesn't belong in the starting rotation. Yea that is obvious.... But none of us here have the power to do that so constantly bringing it up does nothing more than annoy. Why is the mesage board here?For us (Fans) to vent and voice our opinions on matters concerning the team. Uhhh...no this board is not here are your personal diary of anger. We all get mad when players do not perform, I can understand the Oliver Sucks thread, I can't understand why it has been posted like 10 times. I can understand everyone's frustration with Agon, but do we really need to hear your b***hing everytime he strikes out? Whatever, I am not pin-pointing anyone and maybe no-one agree's with me. I for one like coming to this forum to get all my Marlins info, but I am becoming incresingly more annoyed at the amount of garbage posts and lack of constructive ones. We all have our opinions, since we are all fans. I don't see the point of b***hing and whinning about certain players on a daily basis. Seriously It hink a seperate forum for ANGER would be appropriate. People could spam all they want about all the players they hate. Makes this forum a little easier to read. Look man, we are all fans. We like to talk about the good (winning games, rings, etc.) and the bad (AGon, Oliver, Bump, etc.). Just don't pay attention to the bad if it bothers you. Exactly... Avoid the post that you find annoying.There no need to censor anyone opinion even if all he or she post is negativity. *sigh*.... I give up....you guys are so hard headed... I am not against negative... hell I get pissed all the time and cuss out Agon when he looks rediculous at the plate. Hell I almost threw a baseball at my TV the other day watching Dtrain blow a 7 run lead. The point I am TRYING to make is that we do not need to make a NEW thread about the same CRAP everytime someone is pissed. We are all fans we can all see that Oliver sucks and Agon is struggling, and we need Bullpen help... We don't need 20 diffren tthreads to tell us this. Whatever I am done on this subject.... I will not say another WORD about this anymore... Sorry if I upset anyone, but just as you guys have your opinions I also have mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildMarlinMan2003 Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 Look if we want to say Gonzalez sucks at hitting 15 times in a row, then big deal. Same about Oliver. All you have to do is ignore it. Everyone is different in how they handle anger and stress. Ignore it man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 ok, this thread has run its course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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