what the hell is greety?

 

And yes. There is no sense of loyalty it seems. But that is a played-out topic. As for our offense: it blows right now.

I'm sorry, did I miss the last 30 years of free agency or something?

 

News flash..... Athletes take the money 99.9999 percent of the time. It may be a good thing, it may be a bad thing, but it is what it is.

 

No one hated Pudge when he held out on everyone before signing with the Fish last year for.......you guessed it......MORE MONEY.

 

So why is this different?

 

we hate him for the same reason everyone "hates" an ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend most of the time.....because we loved him so much, but he decided to leave us.

I'm sorry, did I miss the last 30 years of free agency or something?

 

News flash..... Athletes take the money 99.9999 percent of the time. It may be a good thing, it may be a bad thing, but it is what it is.

 

No one hated Pudge when he held out on everyone before signing with the Fish last year for.......you guessed it......MORE MONEY.

 

So why is this different?

 

we hate him for the same reason everyone "hates" an ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend most of the time.....because we loved him so much, but he decided to leave us. We don't hate Pudge. Pudge just isn't worth the money he supposedly got. The talent certainly is there, at least for another year or two, but not four. Pudge was about Pudge. The Marlins get 12K vs Astros on a Tuesday night. How can anyone in this market argue about Pudge or Lee or anyone? There just isn't the revenue or the fan support to justify paying the contracts on critical players. Not bringing Pudge back was pure and simple a business move. With the budget they are working with they could have brought Pudge back and let Lowell go. Take your pick, one had to go based on finances. And until the excuses stop regarding this so called fan base, it will be this way. Maybe a new stadium will help. If the team has to pay out so much to make the stadium work, then they can build the Trump Towers of baseball and it won't matter. They need significant revenue streams to compete seriously. Right now management is spread thin, losing money and soon may be paying off the racketeering case involving the sale of the Expos. This lineup isn't good enough to hold off the Phillies much longer.

And Pudge wasn't a very good ballplayer anyway. His arm isn't what it once was and his reputation keeps people from testing it. His 'clutch' ability last year were what normally would have been routine ground balls if JP and Luiy did not move defenders out of position. And reports are that Mike Redmond handled the pitcher/catcher meetings with Pudge his usual amount of interest.

If by "wasn't a very good player" you mean "was the third best offensive catcher in baseball last year," you are correct. He's such a bad player that this year so far he is batting .352 with 7 homers homers (SLG over .500) and is leading the AL with 32 RBIs. He's near the top of the AL in BA with RISP again. But I guess you would attribute that to routine ground balls that are only hits because of opposing players holding the runners on the bases (which is just wrong). Also, he has thrown out 57% of basestealers, abeit with not many chances, so I think his arm is fine. In fact, he's thrown out runners that had stolen the bases on our pitchers with huge jumps. Your blind hatred of him keeps you reaching to find faults that aren't there. It's fine that you don't like him as a person, but saying that he isn't a very good player is just wrong.

Of course he's a good ballplayer but let's not act like now he's anymore than a groundball-hitting catcher with a bad back and feared reputation.

"Of course he's a good ballplayer"

 

That's not what you said in your last post.

 

"Let's not act like now he's anymore than a groundball-hitting catcher with a bad back and feared reputation."

 

This is wrong. He's not a huge HR hitter, but he has very good power for his position. Right now he has 7 homers, which puts him behind only Jorge Posada with 8 HR among catchers in the AL. His SLG% is .545, playing in a difficult park to hit for power in. He is also in the Top 10 all-time in HR by a catcher and has nearly 400 career doubles. A lot of his hits are ground balls, but he's not only a singles hitter.

miguelito and mikey both have 11 homers dont forget that...soon they could make it to more

Of course they will get there. I doubt they will go all season without one

"Of course he's a good ballplayer"

 

That's not what you said in your last post.

 

"Let's not act like now he's anymore than a groundball-hitting catcher with a bad back and feared reputation."

 

This is wrong. He's not a huge HR hitter, but he has very good power for his position. Right now he has 7 homers, which puts him behind only Jorge Posada with 8 HR among catchers in the AL. His SLG% is .545, playing in a difficult park to hit for power in. He is also in the Top 10 all-time in HR by a catcher and has nearly 400 career doubles. A lot of his hits are ground balls, but he's not only a singles hitter.

Yawn. Wait until after the all-star break. I'm sure he'll trail off. The Tigers might even do even better then.

We don't hate Pudge.

Speak for yourself

nah i do not really miss DLEE even though he was my boy.

 

and i was depressed for like a week when we lost pudge......we really need him..

 

not a pudge hater.

i hate pudge

i dont hate KLee

one left on good terms, the other ripped the FO

 

pudge left the city he lives in, his family, and fans that love him to go to the worst city in america for a few more millions. moron

 

my highlight of the summer will no doubt be going to yankee stadium and watching that d-bag fudge play for the sorry ass tigers

pudge left the city he lives in, his family, and fans that love him to go to the worst city in america for a few more millions. moron

Jersey has a team?

pudge left the city he lives in, his family, and fans that love him to go to the worst city in america for a few more millions. moron

Jersey has a team? Jersey isn't a city, but its the worst state. Name a Major League city worse than Detroit.

No one hated Pudge when he held out on everyone before signing with the Fish last year for.......you guessed it......MORE MONEY.

 

So why is this different?

This is different because Pudge left a place like Dallas (c'mon who wants to live there?) where they won 65 games a year to come home to a promising team.

 

You don't see dudes ditching the Champs after losing their whole career, and moving from their home to go to a terrible city to play for a team coming off a 45 win season, every day. That's rare. And then to ditch the FO? You have a problem if you still respect Pudge, the person.

No one hated Pudge when he held out on everyone before signing with the Fish last year for.......you guessed it......MORE MONEY.

 

So why is this different?

This is different because Pudge left a place like Dallas (c'mon who wants to live there?) where they won 65 games a year to come home to a promising team.

 

I disagree that it was much different. Yes, your team was a lot better than ours, but before the 2003 season started most people weren't predicting the Marlins to have a shot at the postseason, let alone the World Series Title. He came to your team for the same reason he came to ours - your team offered him the most money. It was an opportunity to show the rest of MLB that he was healthy for a full season so he could get the long term deal that he wanted.

 

And I agree that he could be called greedy, but lets be honest here and admit that most of the population of America chooses the job that pays them the most for their services.

I like the point dude brought up on lee's 1st year......

 

Choi's on a pace for 30-35 bombs 80-100 RBI's with a batting average of 210-240.....

 

 

I have no f***ing problem with that.......

 

and by the way, I hate u all......

 

now i must watch Mega Man GT Warrior or MT warrior..... wha eva...

 

still hate u all!!!!!! and Dlee

I really do miss Pude and lee.

 

I mean who wouldnt? They both provided very good Defense and hitting. Lee hitting 30 homers with 80 RBI's and Pudge coming in with Key hits all the time.

 

We just do need them. Admit it.

You're forgetting about all the times they wouldn't be clutch, all the strikeouts, and the few walks. Lee was the anti-clutch and Pudge turned it on late and for the play-offs. Nothing to miss yet. Choi can get 30 and 80 and walk more than Lee.

 

The catcher position is not solved, but hopefully, Willingham get's called up soon.