July 10, 200422 yr time to go out and get Admin Walker, Carlos Beltran or Jason Kendall now I am sick and tired of watching this offense not drive in runs and if we get an OF I want Willy behind the plate, if we get Kendall I want Willy in LF /end rant 449767[/snapback] Offense is not the problem. The last 2 games pitching and managing has been the problem. The offense gave the pitching leads the past 2 games and they could not be held.
July 10, 200422 yr Author Hitting's been a huge problem, and there really isn't a hole to fill besides maybe catcher. Bill Robinson needs to be fired, and somebody who can motivate the offense needs to be appointed. The mets turned things around with a new hitting coach.
July 10, 200422 yr time to go out and get Admin Walker, Carlos Beltran or Jason Kendall now I am sick and tired of watching this offense not drive in runs and if we get an OF I want Willy behind the plate, if we get Kendall I want Willy in LF /end rant 449767[/snapback] Offense is not the problem. The last 2 games pitching and managing has been the problem. The offense gave the pitching leads the past 2 games and they could not be held. 449771[/snapback] shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up you really dont have a clue.... every freakin night we score 2-3 runs, that is not good enough and every time we go to the pen it would be nice if we could go to the pen with more than a 1 run lead.... jeez, not pen is perfect everytime they need a freakin break offense is the problem, get your head out of your ass
July 10, 200422 yr time to go out and get Admin Walker, Carlos Beltran or Jason Kendall now I am sick and tired of watching this offense not drive in runs and if we get an OF I want Willy behind the plate, if we get Kendall I want Willy in LF /end rant 449767[/snapback] Offense is not the problem. The last 2 games pitching and managing has been the problem. The offense gave the pitching leads the past 2 games and they could not be held. 449771[/snapback] Cape, 3 runs is not a good performance from the offense. Anything under 4 runs is not good enough. Just because we usually score less than 3 runs doesn't mean 3 runs is good enough.
July 10, 200422 yr if i were loria and beinfest no way in hell do i trade penny or pavano. i sign them to long term deals, it will just become more expensive to acquire talent like that in the future. if that does happen idiot baseball fans who make up 70 percent of our fanbase will see it as 98 part II. the team needs a bat and a reliever. the bad luck that has happened lately likely won't happen forever. the mets amd braves will likely not stay like this all year. beinfest better make a trade though, NOW.
July 10, 200422 yr If we are buyers, great. If we are sellers, great. The only unaccepetable choice is doing nothing.
July 10, 200422 yr untill we fall 8 or more games out i dont consider ourself out of it....theres no way we are out of it.....3.5 games 1/2 year left wtf how can u think were even close to being out of it
July 10, 200422 yr untill we fall 8 or more games out i dont consider ourself out of it....theres no way we are out of it.....3.5 games 1/2 year left wtf how can u think were even close to being out of it 449961[/snapback] Miami, it's not the amount of gamees behind people are losing hope with. Fans were groaning when the team was in first place. The problem is the Marlins do not have the magic the 2003 team did....at least not yet.
July 10, 200422 yr The problem is the Marlins do not have the magic the 2003 team did....at least not yet. 449979[/snapback] The sort of magic we had last year comes once in a lifetime . . . if you are lucky. If you are waiting for a trade that will accomplish this, you'll be waiting a long time.
July 10, 200422 yr We have the Relief pitchers Either Kotch, Bump, Manzanillo is going to step up. Our bullpen is BETTER than last years at this time. All i ask for is 1st inning production...pls. Today we made two quick outs in it. Jp, Luis....if you guys are in your true forms you could have a f***ing broom levitating over home plate and it would still drive you guys in
July 10, 200422 yr time to go out and get Admin Walker, Carlos Beltran or Jason Kendall now I am sick and tired of watching this offense not drive in runs and if we get an OF I want Willy behind the plate, if we get Kendall I want Willy in LF /end rant 449767[/snapback] Offense is not the problem. The last 2 games pitching and managing has been the problem. The offense gave the pitching leads the past 2 games and they could not be held. 449771[/snapback] shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up you really dont have a clue.... every freakin night we score 2-3 runs, that is not good enough and every time we go to the pen it would be nice if we could go to the pen with more than a 1 run lead.... jeez, not pen is perfect everytime they need a freakin break offense is the problem, get your head out of your ass 449778[/snapback] Chill out Ramp. You pretended Willingham was the answer - and now you discover the truth. Willingham is NOT the stop gap. He is a nice player and will be good (and stop trying to get props for the obvious). The guy is hitting well and deserves a chance. Chill. But the fact is, he is only holding it down til Conine gets healthy. And for the Marlins to have a chance this season, Conine will play a vital role. But more importantly, there is no quick and immediate answer, save blowing up our farm system or even spending A LOT of money, that can get this offense among the elite. And you are still wrong - the offense is NOT the problem. The talent is there. They are just not getting it done. Now, I am not a fool and dont pretend we have enough offense - YOU NEVER CAN HAVE ENOUGH OFFENSE. But let's get something clear here - this team HAS AND WILL WIN with PITCHING alone. That is where the success of this team will begin and end. You are not going to get it done everynight, but if a couple of breaks go our way, 3 runs IS enough to win last night. And it should have been - good teams win those close games. Just look at the 8th inning when that hit was about 1" away from AGon and getting us out of the inning. [begin my new rant] PEOPLE. CHILL. WE ARE NOT SELLERS. WE HAVE A LOT OF SEASON LEFT. THIS TEAM WILL BE EVALUATED OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR SO NOT BY WINS/LOSSES, BUT BY THE STANDINGS AND HOW WE PLAY. We are struggling because we are inconsistent on the whole. There isnt one phase of the game that is guranteed right now. I am tired of weak-minded losers plaguing this site.
July 10, 200422 yr sorry if I think Niner's career is done as a starter. I dont think he has it anymore. and just for the record, who says Willingham isnt the answer?
July 10, 200422 yr sorry if I think Niner's career is done as a starter. I dont think he has it anymore. and just for the record, who says Willingham isnt the answer? 450324[/snapback] Well, considering we're 1-2 in games he's started, I'm going to say I think he isn't the answer. You can't evaluate anything fairly after 3 games, but tonight Conine better play, I want as many veterans in the lineup against Glavine as possible...
July 10, 200422 yr sorry if I think Niner's career is done as a starter. I dont think he has it anymore. and just for the record, who says Willingham isnt the answer? 450324[/snapback] Well, considering we're 1-2 in games he's started, I'm going to say I think he isn't the answer. You can't evaluate anything fairly after 3 games, but tonight Conine better play, I want as many veterans in the lineup against Glavine as possible... 450434[/snapback] Exactly. This team is going to take a lot more than one guy to make a difference. It is going to take a TEAM to win again. How do you start playing like a team? Well, you dont keep shuffling guys around and making everyone nervous and anxious about who is playing. You got to stick with your boys, but not be headstrong at the same time. Sure, Conine is struggling - but it has more to do with his shoulder than anything. I have seen him play - he doesnt look lost or like he has lost anything. I think he is not getting enough pitches to hit and he is not totally healthy. And you will never here him say that - instead, he says he just stinks. And the fact that Willy is out in LF is not a good thing. This kid should be being groomed to play catcher. I am kind of miffed about the FO lately - they just seem to be in a panic mode or at least trying to experiment their way out of this without any real plan. Aguila IS a LF'er. Nunez is currently up and just collecting dust. Why not play Nunez now - he isnt going to do that much worse, right? And why bring Aguila up then send him down when you have Nunez and especially if you arent going to replace Nunez with Aguila? Then you bring up a hot hitting AA C to play LF? WTF?!
July 10, 200422 yr Author sorry if I think Niner's career is done as a starter. I dont think he has it anymore. and just for the record, who says Willingham isnt the answer? 450324[/snapback] Well, considering we're 1-2 in games he's started, I'm going to say I think he isn't the answer. You can't evaluate anything fairly after 3 games, but tonight Conine better play, I want as many veterans in the lineup against Glavine as possible... 450434[/snapback] Niner's definatly gotta play tonight. But don't say as many veterans as possible, remember Lenny. Tonight's probably the only game I want Easley over Choi.
July 10, 200422 yr All I have to say is that this team is under a lot of pressure, and in panic mode. They are walking on a very thin line at this moment. There is no longer the "go out and play and have fun . . ." from Jack. You don't lose a key game like last night, when one of your best pitchers put together 7 strong innings. If you see Philly gaining ground over the next two games, you could see Beinfest working the phones and lining the ducks to make a rebuilding trade(s) soon. It is not time to be sellers yet, but the MEts can put the last couple of nails over the . . . . . . . That's how I feel, call me whatever you want to call me.
July 10, 200422 yr btw, JP needs to have red light on stealing situations. This is getting ridiculous. HE needs to be sent by the coach. No more steal at will.
July 10, 200422 yr Author All I have to say is that this team is under a lot of pressure, and in panic mode. They are walking on a very thin line at this moment. There is no longer the "go out and play and have fun . . ." from Jack. You don't lose a key game like last night, when one of your best pitchers put together 7 strong innings. If you see Philly gaining ground over the next two games, you could see Beinfest working the phones and lining the ducks to make a rebuilding trade(s) soon. It is not time to be sellers yet, but the MEts can put the last couple of nails over the . . . . . . . That's how I feel, call me whatever you want to call me. 450492[/snapback] Isn't it the "go out and play and have fun" philosophy that got the team to over .500 last year?
July 10, 200422 yr yup you're right. They know the were champs last year. so they're stressing it even more to get there again. they should just forget they even won the world series and "just go out and play and have fun".
July 10, 200422 yr We need a manager who isn't stubborn to lineup changes and can the best out of a talented but unproductive pitching staff
July 10, 200422 yr sorry if I think Niner's career is done as a starter. I dont think he has it anymore. and just for the record, who says Willingham isnt the answer? 450324[/snapback] Well, considering we're 1-2 in games he's started, I'm going to say I think he isn't the answer. You can't evaluate anything fairly after 3 games, but tonight Conine better play, I want as many veterans in the lineup against Glavine as possible... 450434[/snapback] if we would have won last night would you have said he is the answer? please and Conine looks absolutely lost with the bat... he hasnt caught up to a good fastball in months... its sad
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