August 27, 200421 yr Past couple of weeks I've sent in early morning positive fluff usually after a loss. I'm all fluffed out. Last fluff said Beckett was ready to Rally (WS Mode). Didn't happen. Nothing happened. We were so stupidly clever finessing Bonds that we lost motivation (which is a very big part for a team that needs to over-achieve.) Now I wonder if Pavano will be a Marlin in mid-September. Or who else might be gone by then. Reality sucks. I still root like hell for my Marlins, but I can't muster any more fluff.
August 27, 200421 yr only way he stays is if Loria is ready to raise payroll to 65 million, or if Pavano gets a heavy backlogged contract. Mark my words, Pavano won't play the "if we get a stadium" clause game with the FO. This is his golden opportunity to cash in.
August 27, 200421 yr *doesn't have inside sources* *detects sarcasm* Just seems to me like he won't go anywhere.
August 27, 200421 yr I agree with Admin. I dont think Pavano ends up elsewhere. If your projection of $65 million is correct, its not too large a rise in payroll, especially with a new stadium just around the corner. Im assuming you mean with the salaries of Pudge and Hampton in there too? Plus remember, those are coming off the books soon.
August 27, 200421 yr right, if they get creative with Fudge and Hampton contract getting off the books soon we could get most of the guys back. Hoping for, Pavano Benitez Lo Duca For some reason, I think that one of them will not make it next year. Benitez?
August 27, 200421 yr I have a feeling we will keep all of them. Including Benitez. We have been waiting for such a great closer in so long we are not gonna let this one go. Neither will we let go Pavano and Lo Duca. And that I hope so.
August 27, 200421 yr Who else is freeagent/arbitration eligible of the team? Yeah Id say if we had to let one go, it would be Mando. I imagine Mota could replace him. With Fox and Spooney coming back, the pen should be able to take the hit. Could imagine having all of them though?
August 27, 200421 yr Free agents: Pavano, Valdez, Koch, Benitez, Seanez, Cordero, Easley, Mordecai, Harris, Manzanillo, Perisho, Arbitration eligble: Burnett, Beckett, LoDuca, Mota My guess is that payroll will not increase unless we make the playoffs, which is looking less and less likely. Beckett and Burnett will get big raises. Pavano and Mota will be back. Benitez, Valdez and LoDuca won't be. Nor will Koch. I know Loria has said LoDuca is not a rental, but I don't see payroll increasing without a postseason appearance and how we could afford Burnett, Beckett, Pavano, one of the closers, AND sign LoDuca while having enough to fill in holes elsewhere. I still think we could have a 85-win team next year and with some luck, get back to the playoffs.
August 27, 200421 yr Lo Duca will be back...They made the mistake of letting an all star catcher get away last year, they won't make the same mistake twice -- and Loria has put himself in a corner by saying that Lo Duca will be back, he can't afford to go back on his word.
August 27, 200421 yr I think Pavano and Lo Duca stay. After next year we lose Pudge and Hampton contracts. You backload their contracts towards the last 2-3 years a little more and its ok. All depends too if we can get Encarnacion off the books too.
August 27, 200421 yr Carl's not leaving *shakes head* He's said that this is where he wants to be and he's even trying to move down here closer. Without Brad's payroll, he's ours.
August 27, 200421 yr there is no way we will resign every big name thats FA or arbitration eligible, someone will have to go unfortunately. money talks.
August 27, 200421 yr Exactly. Let's be realisitc. Otherwise we're just setting ourselves up for disappointment.
August 28, 200421 yr They will try to work out a deal with Pavano. Deferring some of next year's salary could work as the Hampton payment comes off in 2006.
August 28, 200421 yr They will both stay. Maybe even Benitez. And that I hope so. 529428[/snapback] Sorry, but there's little to no chance of that happening, unless Loria for some reason opens his pocketbooks a lot this offseason.
August 28, 200421 yr Say good night to Pavs and Benitez....There's no need for Mando with Mota, Spoon, Koch and Fox to save games...It's unnecessary money spent....If we deal Encarnacion then maybe we can keep Pavs....I just can't see him openin the pocket book unless the park fills up the rest of the season and i mean at least 40k a night.
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