July 22, 200321 yr As he gets closer and closer to arbitration other teams will know that the Marlins will be anxious to move a player they can't afford. And I don't put much stock into his career stats, and neither does the rest of the country... He's a nobody as far as the rest of the country is concerned, and that's scary considering how impressive he looks on paper. He's Cliff Floyd - The sequel. Guarantee when he signs somewhere else for more money he'll suck like a Hoover, just like Floyd.
July 22, 200321 yr so why not get a LF, why mess up the best IF in the majors? Because Ramp, you have to break some eggs to make an omelette. You have to trade value to get value. Fifty years I'm sure some guy sat in a bar and thought maybe his team could trade Pete Gray for Ted Williams. As for this being the best infield in the majors, well its a good one and if we had a slugging RF or a big bat in left maybe I could live with Lee batting eighth where he belongs. We don't. Lee is a terrific player that can bring value. I say pull the trigger and don't look back. You're underestimating Conine and the contribution he makes to a team. Will he singlehandedly carry the team to the playoffs? No. We have too many other wholes for him to fill them all. Will he contribute? Yes. Will contribute more than Derrick Lee? I believe so. I suggest you go to Orioleshangout.com and see what peeps have written. Also check out the archives of Orioles/MLB and the Baltimore Sun.
July 22, 200321 yr *in regards to FF's comments* no freakin way.... he will be alot better in a different stadium.... we all know that.... and most of the rest of the country(or fans from other teams) think he is pretty darn good from his stats and what they have seen
July 22, 200321 yr As he gets closer and closer to arbitration other teams will know that the Marlins will be anxious to move a player they can't afford. And I don't put much stock into his career stats, and neither does the rest of the country... He's a nobody as far as the rest of the country is concerned, and that's scary considering how impressive he looks on paper. He's Cliff Floyd - The sequel. Guarantee when he signs somewhere else for more money he'll suck like a Hoover, just like Floyd. The Marlins can always sugn him, and THEN trade him, making other teams believe they might keep him by signing him...
July 22, 200321 yr the O's dont want to trade Conine anymore, why dont any of you get it? Conine brings alot to a team.... but he isnt that big an upgrade over DLee as say Guillen is in LF over Cabrera
July 22, 200321 yr but he isnt that big an upgrade over DLee as say Guillen is in LF over Cabrera Greta point...
July 22, 200321 yr D. Lee is a nobody... Teams don't care about defense at 1B if the guy can't hit. And when Lee cruises along at a .250 clip it's not what I would call impressive. D. Lee gets numbers because they never, ever sit him, Which means he gets all the AB's in the world to pad his power numbers - Including garbage AB's when the Fish are +/- 6 runs in the late innings.
July 22, 200321 yr Teams don't care about defense at 1B if the guy can't hit. And when Lee cruises along at a .250 clip it's not what I would call impressive. See J.T. Snow... And It's not like Derrek hits . 200 with 3 HR's, 17 RBI, and 0 SB's... He is a good hitter, and it's a luxary to be able to have a 1B that plays GG defense and steals 20 bases... Teams want that...
July 22, 200321 yr I suggest you go to Orioleshangout.com and see what peeps have written. Also check out the archives of Orioles/MLB and the Baltimore Sun. Hey you go to Orioles Hangout too. I'm Marlinsfan97. Those guys are always hating on the marlins. So I have to set em straight.
July 22, 200321 yr Hey you go to Orioles Hangout too. I'm Marlinsfan97. Those guys are always hating on the marlins. So I have to set em straight. I wasn't suggesting, or do I even care what Orioles fans think of the Fish. I was suggesting Ramp (I think it was ramp) see what fans think of Conine. While there are some who don't like the guy, as there would be any board for any player, most Orioles respect the guy and recognize his contribution to the team. That was my point FF, and not what you alluded to in your silly post. "Set them straight"? lol
July 22, 200321 yr I just went there when I first heard about the conine deal. They really want Lee. It's a nice board so I check it periodically.
July 22, 200321 yr They really want Lee. Who wouldn't? I think that's what Filet O' Fish needs to realize...
July 22, 200321 yr Who wouldn't? I think that's what Filet O' Fish needs to realize... The whole point of this exercise is just for that reason - teams want Derrick Lee and frankly, we can't afford him in 2004 and keep most of the rest of the starting lineup intact. Freeing up his salary is, for me, the essential reason for a trade. But at the same time I'm committed to getting player(s) of value in return. That's what makes him the #1 trade bait the Marlins have right now and hopefully we'll pull the trigger on a big trade that will help us in the wildcard run.
July 22, 200321 yr Marlins2003, I don't think we can lose Derrek's bat and have it help us for a run. Like Ramp said, we need a LF to replace Cabs (for the moment) more than we need a 1B to replace Lee...
July 22, 200321 yr What if we could do this trade. Marlins get: Jeff Conine Orioles get: Wayne and Neal/Bump I think we could make this happen. Conine could be our Left Fielder, and could make a big contribution. The guys at Orioles Hangout have an infatuation with Wayne not sure why.
July 22, 200321 yr why would the Orioles do that? You really think that Conine is worth more he is 37 years old.
July 22, 200321 yr Conine is worth more than that... But Neal isn't just an add in... He's gonna be good one day...
July 22, 200321 yr awwwwweeeee guys give up it up!!!!! Conine not going anywhere the talks were when we were a bad team now we are 3 ova and 4.5 back the Wild Card... just chill out and give it up this deal wont happen..... it is true that marlins are looking 4 1 more hitter but there is nothing out in the market..... Juan Gone is most likely gonna be an Oakland A or Kc Royal... and Ryan Kelesko will make 8.2 mil a year after the 04 season...... all we have to choose from is Kelesko and Giles and the Pirates want alot 4 Giles and Trot Nixon and none this guys are Flattering to have......
July 22, 200321 yr You really think that Conine is worth more he is 37 years old. no, but the Orioles think he is..... Id give up Tejera, Wayne, Bridges, and Neal for Guillen.... 2 of the last 3 + Tejera
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