:thumbup my choice is Mark Pawelek, even though Boras is his agent :confused

If Clement is there we have to take him, but I doubt he will be there. If he's not I'd say we should take Volstad.

1. Clement

2. Volstad

2a. Carillo

4. Pawelek (Boras factor)

5. Torra

Romero or Carillo

Romero or Carillo

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I also wouldn't mind if we got Romero. I'd take him over Volstad but I doubt Romero will be there. The more I read about this Volstad kid though the more I'm starting to think that he would be a great pickup.

either Pawelek or Carrillo

If Clement is there then we MUST take him.

WE HAVE SO MANY SP AND RP IN THE SYSTEM NOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TRADE THEM AWAY FOR POSITION PLAYERS DOWN THE ROAD.....CATCHER IS NEEDED BADLY.....

 

HERMIDA IN LEFT....REED IN CENTER......NEED A LEFT FIELDER....NEED A SECOND BASEMAN SOON AND ANDINO ON SHORT.....SEEMS THE MOST OBVIOUS QUESTION IS GOING TO BE CATCHER AND SECOND BASE....JUST A THOUGHT

I met Volstadt's girlfriend last week. Her sister baby sat for my sister. Yes, she's hot.

Clement won't get to us, if he even slips a little, I doubt the Mets pass him up.

 

Volstadt's likely our guy, and I can't say I'm disappointed if that's the case.

Carillo is going to be a solid MLB SP

Two names to remember SS Brandon Snyder and OF Colby Rasmus for the next selections

Any chance of someone posting some brief bios on prospective Marlin draft picks? Ramp could you set up a link to something like this via your site?

 

Thanks.

 

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JEFF CLEMENT, c (National Ranking: 15)

School: Southern California.

Hometown: Marshalltown, Iowa.

B-T: L-R. Ht.: 6-1. Wt.: 205. Birthdate: Aug. 21, 1983.

Previously Drafted: Twins 2002 (12)

Scouting Report: Clement enjoyed a storied high school career in small-town Iowa, setting the national career high school home run record with 75. He generates light-tower power with a short, compact lefthanded swing. He stays inside the ball well and gets excellent backspin. After hitting 21 home runs as a freshman at USC, he slumped to 10 in an injury-plagued sophomore season and struggled to top that total this spring as teams pitched around him. The Trojans hit him in the No. 2 spot in the order in hopes that he would see better pitches. He has become a better overall hitter in the process, improving his average to a team-high .368 after two sub-.300 seasons. He has used the whole field and demonstrated better plate coverage, walking 39 times against 25 strikeouts. As a major league hitter, he projects to hit .270-.280 with 30-35 home runs. Clement has outstanding makeup and has worked hard to shore up his weaknesses. He has shown his biggest improvement behind the plate, working on his defense with former big league catcher and USC volunteer coach Chad Kreuter, the son-in-law of head coach Mike Gillespie. His set-up, mechanics, blocking and arm quickness are all much improved. He still has only a 40-50 arm on the standard 20-80 scouting scale, but threw out almost 50 percent of basestealers this year. Unlike former USC catcher Eric Munson, a powerful lefthanded-hitting catcher who was the third overall pick in 1999, Clement won?t require a position switch. Munson immediately moved to first base for the Tigers, who have the 10th pick this year and shown a strong interest in Clement.

 

MARK PAWELEK, lhp (National rank: 17)

School: Springville HS.

Hometown: Springville, Utah.

B-T: L-L. Ht.: 6-3. Wt.: 190. Birthdate: Aug. 18, 1986.

College Commitment: Arizona State.

Scouting Report: Pawelek left his mark on the Utah prep ranks by the time he completed his junior year, setting the state record for career strikeouts with 341 while going 26-2 in his first three years. As a junior, he went 10-1, 1.05 with 156 strikeout in 80 innings. He moved onto the national stage as a senior with an even more impressive season, going 8-0, 0.00 in his first 51 innings, striking out 109, walking just 12 and allowing 12 hits. Of more importance for the draft, he topped out at 94-95 mph with an effortless delivery. Scouts say his feel for pitching, presence and composure are so advanced for his age that he?s the equivalent of a college sophomore. He has command of four pitches and knows how and when to use his curveball and changeup. He?s the most complete high school pitcher to come out of Utah since lefthander Mike Gosling--who signed for $2 million in 2001 after three years at Stanford--and Gosling?s fastball was 3-4 mph slower than Pawelek?s. The only high school player ever drafted in the first round out of Utah is lefthander Bruce Hurst, selected by the Red Sox with the 22nd pick in 1976. Pawelek could go higher than that on talent, but he?s the only high school player in this year?s draft who is being advised by Scott Boras and that could have a profound impact on where he is picked. Pawelek?s older brother Dennis was drafted by the White Sox in 2002 out of Snow (Utah) Junior College, but he never played pro ball and spent last fall as a backup kicker on Utah?s undefeated Fiesta Bowl football team. There is little chance Pawelek will forgo a similar opportunity to play pro ball.

 

*6-foot-7 Florida righthander Chris Volstad has surged to the head of the pack. He had allowed one earned run, nine hits and three walks in his first 38 innings, while striking out 61. He was particularly impressive in an early-season matchup against Wellington High?s Tyler Herron that drew a throng of scouts.

 

?Volstad had everything?he was 94 with power stuff,? an AL crosschecker said. ?He had it all that night.?With increased strength, Volstad could move quickly. One of the closest pitcher in HS ball to ML with his command. Also have shown a good feel for pitching and the willingness to work to both sides of the plate.

 

*OF Colby Rasmus (27) hit .483-18-56 during his high school season, then was named the most valuable hitter at the year?s largest tournament, the Perfect Game/BA World Wood Bat Association Fall Championship in Fort Myers, Fla., with a 15-for-21 showing. Similar to J.Hermida

 

COLBY RASMUS, of (National rank: 30)

School: Russell County HS.

Hometown: Phenix City, Ala.

B-T: L-L. Ht.: 6-2. Wt.: 183. Birthdate: Aug. 11, 1986.

College Commitment: Auburn.

Scouting Report: Rasmus emerged as an elite prospect as the MVP of the Perfect Game World Wood Bat Fall Championship last year, going 12-for-21 with 15 RBIs. He has since added 15 pounds of muscle to his frame and had a tremendous spring. His father Tony coaches Colby and his brother Cory, a junior infielder and pitcher, at Russell County High, which advanced to the state championship series behind a three-hit shutout from Colby. Colby and Cory helped take Phenix City to the Little League World Series in 1999, and the team won the United States bracket before losing to Japan in the championship final. Now Colby Rasmus could go nine rounds higher than his father, who was a 10th-round pick in 1986. Rasmus? tools grade out average or above across the board. He covers 60 yards in 6.7 seconds and has a plus arm, throwing fastballs up to 91 mph off the mound. Besides his tools, scouts love his maturity and savvy for the game. Some compare Rasmus to Steve Finley, while others believe he evokes Shawn Green; it depends on whether the scout believes Rasmus can stay in center field. He has a short, simple lefthanded swing that he repeats, and the barrel of the bat stays in the hitting zone a long time. While he could use a better load to his swing, he at times produces good leverage, leading scouts to believe he'll hit for at least average power. He?s considered motivated to sign despite his Auburn commitment.

 

*Brandon Snyder, c/ss, Westfield HS, Centreville, Va. He can hit and he?s one of the few players who is equally proficient behind plate, in middle infield

Thanks TS...I really love the height on Volstad...sounds like a super prospect.

 

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06/01/2005 1:27 PM ET

Marlins draft preview

By Joe Frisaro / MLB.com

 

MIAMI -- Losing a couple of 2004 All-Star pitchers has created a gain in total draft picks for the Marlins.

 

Counting their own 16th overall pick, the Marlins enter the First-Year Player Draft with three first-round selections and eight total choices through three rounds.

 

As compensation for the free agent departures of Armando Benitez and Carl Pavano, the Marlins added, respectively, picks No. 22 (formerly the Giants) and No. 29 (from the Yankees).

 

Because Benitez and Pavano were Type A free agents, the Marlins also are receiving supplemental sandwich picks (Nos. 34 and 44). Additionally, the heavily-stocked draft includes yet another supplemental choice, No. 81 from Minnesota because of the free agent departure of catcher Mike Redmond.

 

With so many high picks, the Marlins have a tremendous opportunity to stockpile a Minor League system that was stripped a bit in recent years due to some big trades.

 

"It is a unique opportunity when you have three first-round picks," general manager Admin Beinfest said. "It's a good situation to try to build some depth and bring in some very good talent into the organization. We're excited about it."

 

The abundance of picks presents some challenges for the scouting department to cover as many players as possible. To get as many reports and opinions as possible, a couple of top front-office evaluators were asked to scout more college and high schools players than they have in the past.

 

The draft is coordinated by Jim Fleming, the vice president of player development and scouting, and scouting director Stan Meek. The services of vice president of player personnel Dan Jennings, and Orrin Freeman, special assistant to the GM and pro scout, also are being used heavily.

 

While the team has more picks than in the past, the organization's basic philosophy remains the same.

 

The Marlins are looking for the best players available, whether from the college or high school ranks. A premium, as always, is placed on pitching, especially a top left-hander. The organization also looks for quality catchers and middle infielders.

 

"This is a solid draft all the way through," Fleming said. "Maybe it's not as solid at the top pitching [as 2004], but it's a good, solid draft."

 

A year ago, the Marlins used their first two picks on left-handed college pitchers: Taylor Tankersley from Alabama and Jason Vargas from Long Beach State.

 

In 2002 and '03, however, the club went for high school players in the first round. Outfielder Jeremy Hermida, the top-rated prospect in the organization, is a rising star in Double-A. And 2003 first-rounder, pitcher Jeff Allison, is currently pitching in low Class A Greensboro after being on the restricted list in 2004 because of personal reasons. Allison, who is overcoming well-documented addiction problems, was activated by Greensboro in early May.

 

Signing all the top picks presents another challenge, but one the team seems committed to making. A year ago, the average signing bonus for first-round picks was slighly more than $1.8 million.

 

"When you have an opportunity like this, you'd like to sign them all," Fleming said.

 

A year ago, the Marlins signed their first 16 picks, and 18 of their top 20.

 

"You obviously have to look at everything, and we are looking at everything, including the budget," Beinfest said. "But really, what we're focused on right now are the best players available, then drafting them appropriately. Then we'll worry about the business end. Our goal is to sign the best players available in the slots in which we pick."

 

The Marlins' Minor League system remains solid, but it lost some depth when prospects were dealt in 2003 for pitchers Mark Redman and Ugueth Urbina and outfielder/first baseman Jeff Conine.

 

Also in 2003, Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera went from being the organization's top prospects to major contributors in the Marlins' World Series title run.

 

"We did make some moves with some prospects during '03," Beinfest said. "Young players can either help us in the big leagues, or they can be used to bring in other talent as needed. We did have some players at the upper levels who were moved. But our good young players now are starting to graduate [upwards]. Our Double-A team, we think, is a talented group. Maybe it thinned out a little bit at the upper levels. We are going to continually restock and we have a nice opportunity to do so."

 

LAST THREE TOP PICKS

 

2004, 1st round (27th overall), LHP Taylor Tankersley, University of Alabama: Bothered by left shoulder tendinitis since Spring Training, Tankersley is projected to see game action at low Class A Greensboro in June. Being groomed as a starter, Tankersley was 1-1 with a 3.38 ERA in six games with short-season Jamestown in 2004. He struck out 32 and walked eight in 26 2/3 innings.

 

2003, 1st round (16th overall), RHP Jeff Allison, Veterans Memorial High in Peabody, Mass.: Battling through personal troubles, Allison missed the 2004 season as he dealt with addiction problems. Was removed from the restricted list, where he wasn't getting paid, in early May, the hard-throwing right-hander is part of the rotation in low Class A Greensboro.

 

2002, 1st round (11th overall), OF Jeremy Hermida, Wheeler H.S. Marietta, Ga.: Rated the top prospect in the organization, Hermida may be a year away from breaking into a starting outfield spot for the Marlins. A left-handed batter who throws right-handed, Hermida is off to a solid start with Double-A Carolina, where he is hitting for average, power and showing speed. Was in Marlins Spring Training, and is adjusting to hitting higher-level pitching.

 

 

http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/...t2005&fext=.jsp

 

 

 

LHP Mark Pawelek anyone? :whistle

LHP Mark Pawelek anyone?

 

He is a Boras client.

LHP Mark Pawelek anyone?

 

He is a Boras client.

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we probably have to stear clear of those guys... we cant negotiate with him

more stuff...

 

BRANDON SNYDER

Westfield HS, Centerville, Va.

 

Snyder and outfielder Cameron Maybin turned heads last summer while leading Cincinnati?s Midland Redskins to the Connie Mack World Series title. Snyder, whose father Brian pitched for the Mariners and Athletics in the 1980s, continued to impress in the fall when he looked comfortable catching at showcases and tournaments.

 

While he?s sound at shortstop presently, he has significantly more upside behind the plate. Not unlike Cubs catcher Michael Barrett, who was drafted in the first round as a high school shortstop, Snyder shows aptitude and instincts as well as a good, short stroke and a polished approach at the plate.

 

?The fact that he showed he can catch will help his stock,? a National League scouting director said.

 

CHRIS VOLSTAD

Palm Beach Gardens (Fla.) HS

 

Volstad made his mark as a junior when he shut down the nation's No. 1 ranked high school team, Monsignor Pace of Opa Locka, handing the team its first loss. He made steady progress last summer and was touching the mid-90s with a fastball he spots well by October showcases.

 

Volstad's breaking ball is one of the best in the country. He maintains a high three-quarters arm slot that gives his curve nice downward spin, and his arm works freely and easily.

 

CHRIS VOLSTAD, rhp (National rank: 16)

School: Palm Beach Gardens HS

Hometown: Palm Beach Gardens, Fla.

B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-7. Wt.: 195. Birthdate: Sep. 23, 1986.

College Commitment: Miami.

Scouting Report: Volstad has the highest ceiling of any player in the Florida draft class, as he?s a long, lanky pitcher with good stuff now and plenty of projection for down the road. He hasn?t pitched consistently well enough this spring to garner much support for being the first Floridian drafted, however, and might end up fourth on the list. Volstad kept himself as a potential first-rounder by winning a duel with Tyler Herron of nearby Wellington High and showing the ability to reach 94 mph with his fastball. Volstad pitches more consistently in the 88-92 range. He repeats his delivery well enough that scouts see him sitting at 94 regularly as he gains strength and experience. He throws strikes with the fastball and has done so right out of the gate this spring. Scouts disagree on how many balls he threw in his first start, ranging between zero and four over the first five innings. He uses his height well to get a good downward angle to the plate, giving his fastball late life. His secondary pitches are solid for a prep pitcher, particularly his changeup. Volstad?s breaking ball is his third pitch, though it?s serviceable, and scouts consider his makeup a plus. Some question his consistency in terms of focus and killer instinct, but he has time to develop both.

 

CESAR CARRILLO, rhp (National rank: 21)

School: Miami.

Hometown: Chicago.

B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-3. Wt.: 177. Birthdate: April 29, 1984.

Previously Drafted: Royals 2002 (33).

Scouting Report: Carrillo projected as a possible early draft pick coming out of high school in 2002, but his commitment to Miami and a bout with biceps tendinitis scared off scouts. The Hurricanes are overjoyed he made it to school. He had won 24 straight decisions, two off the NCAA Division I record tied just two years ago by Wake Forest?s Kyle Sleeth, and had not lost in two seasons at Miami (the Canes were 34-0 when he started). He did not play his freshman year as a partial qualifier academically because of an ACT flap. While the year off the field didn?t help him get much bigger?scouts say he?s closer to 6-foot-2 and 165 pounds than his listed size?he matured and harnessed a power repertoire. Carrillo throws his fastball anywhere from 90-95 mph (touching 96-97), depending on the need, and he has shown scouts the ability to maintain his velocity deep into games. His fastball has excellent sink and life down in the zone from a three-quarters arm slot, and he went more than 80 innings between home runs allowed this spring. His curveball and changeup both can be plus pitches, though he pitches off his fastball so much that he tends to lose the feel for them at times. He?s athletic and quick-armed and should always have good command. Carrillo?s stuff won?t get much better, but it?s plenty good now, making him a candidate to move quickly through the minors.

Pitching is the biggest expense of any club and even more so if you have to acquire it through means other than the draft. Good catching can be acquired through trades or short term deals that cost less dollars overall. Look for the Fish to go for the arms.

Pitching is the biggest expense of any club and even more so if you have to acquire it through means other than the draft. Good catching can be acquired through trades or short term deals that cost less dollars overall. Look for the Fish to go for the arms.

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Tex can I get a prediction on which pitcher in the 16th slot?

pitching pitching... I'm with TS its got be the lefty

Avoid anybody involved with Boras. It will just cost a lot of money and a lot of uncertainty.

Avoid anybody involved with Boras. It will just cost a lot of money and a lot of uncertainty.

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but in the end they come to term with the teams

Olsen, Vargas, Tankersley. Some of our best pitching prospects are southpaws. With so many picks in the first two rounds, it's hard to say who the Marlins will take at any spot, but I think they'll look to address both sides of the ball while shoring up the middle of field depth in the organization.