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This deal will be a plus deal IF we are players on the free agent market. Getting rid of Burnett and Lowell's contract for a pitching prospect is worthless if we don't do something with the money. Here is what I suggest -

 

1. Make an offer of 4 years 20 million to Milton Bradley. He is young, a fine defender in the outfield, and is a very good hitter. I'm sorry, but I still think this team as is lacks power. An outfield in 06 of Hermida , Pierre and Bradley looks good. An Outfield of Hermida , Pierre and Bigbie or Conine WILL NOT take you to the playoffs. I'd much rather have Bradley then Enc , btw.

 

2. We still need a Starting RHP. I wouldn't trust more then 2 rookies in our rotation. The problem is that this is a weak starting pitcher FA market. The top two guys will be out of price range ( Burnett and Morris ) I wouldn't mind though making a 2 year deal offer to either Jeff Weaver or Tony Armas Jr. Both have good stuff, just have never dominated yet. They are around the age though where pitchers take off, and in a pitchers ball park like Joe Robbie, both could excel.

 

2006 -

 

1. Pierre

2. Castillo

3. Delgado

4. Cabs

5. Milton Bradley

6. Lo Duca

7. Hermida

8. AGon

 

 

Starting Rotation -

 

1. Beckett

2. Willis

3. Armas Jr.

4. Olsen

5. Vargas

 

Our farm system is also loaded with young pitching talent,something you can never have enough of. Penn, Johnson, Tankersly Allison , plus the 4 guys we took in the top 2 rounds in this last draft. We can flip some of those guys for a bat if we can't sign a Bradley in the Offseason. I think this trade to the O's signifys that we are looking toward 2006 now. :(

 

 

Also, I would not be against trading a declining Juan Pierre to the Cubs if you could get a Ryan Harvey out of it. He is something our system is lacking - Power Hitting right handed outfielders.

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This deal will be a plus deal IF we are players on the free agent market. Getting rid of Burnett and Lowell's contract for a pitching prospect is worthless if we don't do something with the money. Here is what I suggest -

 

1. Make an offer of 4 years 20 million to Milton Bradley. He is young, a fine defender in the outfield, and is a very good hitter. I'm sorry, but I still think this team as is lacks power. An outfield in 06 of Hermida , Pierre and Bradley looks good. An Outfield of Hermida , Pierre and Bigbie or Conine WILL NOT take you to the playoffs. I'd much rather have Bradley then Enc , btw.

 

2. We still need a Starting RHP. I wouldn't trust more then 2 rookies in our rotation. The problem is that this is a weak starting pitcher FA market. The top two guys will be out of price range ( Burnett and Morris ) I wouldn't mind though making a 2 year deal offer to either Jeff Weaver or Tony Armas Jr. Both have good stuff, just have never dominated yet. They are around the age though where pitchers take off, and in a pitchers ball park like Joe Robbie, both could excel.

 

2006 -

 

1. Pierre

2. Castillo

3. Delgado

4. Cabs

5. Milton Bradley

6. Lo Duca

7. Hermida

8. AGon

 

 

Starting Rotation -

 

1. Beckett

2. Willis

3. Armas Jr.

4. Olsen

5. Vargas

 

Our farm system is also loaded with young pitching talent,something you can never have enough of. Penn, Johnson, Tankersly Allison , plus the 4 guys we took in the top 2 rounds in this last draft. We can flip some of those guys for a bat if we can't sign a Bradley in the Offseason. I think this trade to the O's signifys that we are looking toward 2006 now. :(

 

 

Also, I would not be against trading a declining Juan Pierre to the Cubs if you could get a Ryan Harvey out of it. He is something our system is lacking - Power Hitting right handed outfielders.

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Pierre, declining.... :blink:

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Pierre's batting average and OBP is the lowest it has ever been since he has been in the majors.

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So he had one bad first half, big F'ing deal, that doesn't mean he's declining. JP has been hitting .333 over the past month, you need to put things into perspective here.

 

Ichiro's batting average and OBP is the lowest it has ever been since he has been in the majors. I guess that means Ichiro is declining :plain.

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Pierre's batting average and OBP is the lowest it has ever been since he has been in the majors.

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So he had one bad first half, big F'ing deal, that doesn't mean he's declining. JP has been hitting .333 over the past month, you need to put things into perspective here.

 

Ichiro's batting average and OBP is the lowest it has ever been since he has been in the majors. I guess that means Ichiro is declining :plain.

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Thank You :thumbup

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can anyone name the top 15-20 free agents for this comming off-season........

 

I wonder if the red sox would be willing to throw in Kevin Millar or if Toronto would be willing to let us have vernon wells, and Hillenbrand for Burnett and Lowell...

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Rotoworld:

 

According to the Toronto Sun, the Rangers have asked the Blue Jays about acquiring Vernon Wells.

Wells is a Texas native. ''We're not trading him,'' general manager J.P. Ricciardi said. Jul. 18 - 10:42 am et

Source: Dallas Morning News

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can anyone name the top 15-20 free agents for this comming off-season........

 

I wonder if the red sox would be willing to throw in Kevin Millar or if Toronto would be willing to let us have vernon wells, and Hillenbrand for Burnett and Lowell...

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The Blue Jays have said NO WAY to Mike Lowell and his 7.5 million dollar contract. That is why the trade with them is off.

 

Marlins demand that Lowell be packaged with AJ.

 

I think it is down to 4 teams and this is how I would rate it-

 

Orioles (50%)

 

Red Sox (20%)

 

White Sox (20%)

 

Yankees (10%)

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Marlins discuss new contract with Willis

 

BY MIKE BERARDINO AND JUAN C. RODRIGUEZ

 

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

 

 

PHILADELPHIA - (KRT) - The Florida Marlins don't plan to offer a multiyear contract to Dontrelle Willis during the season, but his camp came away encouraged after a recent meeting with key front office officials.

 

Matt Sosnick, one of the pitcher's San Francisco-based agents, met last weekend in South Florida with Marlins General Manager Admin Beinfest and assistant GM Michael Hill. They didn't discuss specific terms but laid the groundwork for further talks after the season.

 

"It was a broad blueprint about how we want to approach it," Sosnick said. "The sense I got from them was it's going to be very reasonable. It's not going to be contentious."

 

Willis, who reached the All-Star break with 13 wins and pitched in Tuesday's All-Star Game in Detroit, is expected to qualify for salary arbitration for the first time this winter. That fact alone could push his salary from $378,000 to as much as $4 million next year.

 

Teams in a similar position often attempt to "buy out" a key player's remaining arbitration years. In Willis' case, that could mean an offer in the four-year, $20 million range.

 

"They were nice and fair," Sosnick said of the recent meeting. "They said if he pitches well, he will create his own market for what he makes, which I think is totally fair."

 

Sosnick and business partner Paul Cobbe are preparing for a potential arbitration case next winter, contracting the services of arbitration expert Rick Shapiro, but they don't expect the case to reach a hearing.

 

"If it went to arbitration, what are the Marlins going to say bad about Dontrelle?" Sosnick said. "What can you say about a guy who is totally community active, never missed a start his entire career, including the minor leagues, and is probably going to have 45 career wins?"

 

Sosnick and Cobbe also represent rookie lefty Scott Olsen. Should Double-A right-hander Josh Johnson be promoted soon, as some expect, the same agency would represent 60 percent of the Marlins rotation.

 

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Will we even have Willis next year?

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Marlins discuss new contract with Willis

 

BY MIKE BERARDINO AND JUAN C. RODRIGUEZ

 

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

 

 

PHILADELPHIA - (KRT) - The Florida Marlins don't plan to offer a multiyear contract to Dontrelle Willis during the season, but his camp came away encouraged after a recent meeting with key front office officials.

 

Matt Sosnick, one of the pitcher's San Francisco-based agents, met last weekend in South Florida with Marlins General Manager Admin Beinfest and assistant GM Michael Hill. They didn't discuss specific terms but laid the groundwork for further talks after the season.

 

"It was a broad blueprint about how we want to approach it," Sosnick said. "The sense I got from them was it's going to be very reasonable. It's not going to be contentious."

 

Willis, who reached the All-Star break with 13 wins and pitched in Tuesday's All-Star Game in Detroit, is expected to qualify for salary arbitration for the first time this winter. That fact alone could push his salary from $378,000 to as much as $4 million next year.

 

Teams in a similar position often attempt to "buy out" a key player's remaining arbitration years. In Willis' case, that could mean an offer in the four-year, $20 million range.

 

"They were nice and fair," Sosnick said of the recent meeting. "They said if he pitches well, he will create his own market for what he makes, which I think is totally fair."

 

Sosnick and business partner Paul Cobbe are preparing for a potential arbitration case next winter, contracting the services of arbitration expert Rick Shapiro, but they don't expect the case to reach a hearing.

 

"If it went to arbitration, what are the Marlins going to say bad about Dontrelle?" Sosnick said. "What can you say about a guy who is totally community active, never missed a start his entire career, including the minor leagues, and is probably going to have 45 career wins?"

 

Sosnick and Cobbe also represent rookie lefty Scott Olsen. Should Double-A right-hander Josh Johnson be promoted soon, as some expect, the same agency would represent 60 percent of the Marlins rotation.

 

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Will we even have Willis next year?

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What? I think that is sarcasm....or you can't read.

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Starting Rotation -

 

1. Beckett

2. Willis

3. Armas Jr.

4. Olsen

5. Vargas

 

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Dude, that starting rotation you are proposing... sucks!!! Tony Armas is the equivalent of Valdez or Mohrler, not better than a 5th starter. And you want him as a 3rd starter? Ridiculous! And I don't think two rookies in the starting rotation is a good idea either, one is fine. If you were to say that we trun Penn and others to Oakland for Zito, it would have been better.

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There is quite a few mid-level starting pitchers available in the offseason... Matt Morris, Jeff Weaver, Ted Lilly, Brett Tomko, Jarrod Washburn, Paul Byrd, Jason Johnson, Kevin Millwood.

 

If need be, I'm sure we could sign a decent mid-level starter

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There is quite a few mid-level starting pitchers available in the offseason... Matt Morris, Jeff Weaver, Ted Lilly, Brett Tomko, Jarrod Washburn, Paul Byrd, Jason Johnson, Kevin Millwood.

 

If need be, I'm sure we could sign a decent mid-level starter

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i'll take ted lily and jason johnson

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jp is getting washed up, he is so old, isn't like 26 now?

 

hahahha and HELL NO to Milton .... the man is insaine and injury prone he has only played like 50 games this year.....

 

its like signing JD drew and wishing he could be healthy, but thats not gonna happen..... or Glass Beckett pitching 20 games in a year.....

 

we are garb, and im cool with being garb

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This deal will be a plus deal IF we are players on the free agent market. Getting rid of Burnett and Lowell's contract for a pitching prospect is worthless if we don't do something with the money. Here is what I suggest -

 

1. Make an offer of 4 years 20 million to Milton Bradley. He is young, a fine defender in the outfield, and is a very good hitter. I'm sorry, but I still think this team as is lacks power. An outfield in 06 of Hermida , Pierre and Bradley looks good. An Outfield of Hermida , Pierre and Bigbie or Conine WILL NOT take you to the playoffs. I'd much rather have Bradley then Enc , btw.

 

2.? We still need a Starting RHP. I wouldn't trust more then 2 rookies in our rotation. The problem is that this is a weak starting pitcher FA market. The top two guys will be out of price range ( Burnett and Morris ) I wouldn't mind though making a 2 year deal offer to either Jeff Weaver or Tony Armas Jr. Both have good stuff, just have never dominated yet. They are around the age though where pitchers take off, and in a pitchers ball park like Joe Robbie, both could excel.

 

2006 -

 

1. Pierre

2. Castillo

3. Delgado

4. Cabs

5. Milton Bradley

6. Lo Duca

7. Hermida

8. AGon

 

 

Starting Rotation -

 

1. Beckett

2. Willis

3. Armas Jr.

4. Olsen

5. Vargas

 

Our farm system is also loaded with young pitching talent,something you can never have enough of. Penn, Johnson, Tankersly Allison , plus the 4 guys we took in the top 2 rounds in this last draft.? We can flip some of those guys for a bat if we can't sign a Bradley in the Offseason. I think this trade to the O's signifys that we are looking toward 2006 now.? :( ?

 

 

Also, I would not be against trading a declining Juan Pierre to the Cubs if you could get a? Ryan Harvey out of it. He is something our system is lacking - Power Hitting right handed outfielders.

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why in the hell would you want milton bradley and Armas ? :thumbdown

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