July 31, 200521 yr pretty good move, satisfied bullpen is looking solid: Mecir, Alfonseca, Mota, Jones and Villone
July 31, 200521 yr Im guessing it wont be announced until late tonight or tomorrow, but who do you guys think the Marlins are sending down to make room for Villone?
July 31, 200521 yr Im guessing it wont be announced until late tonight or tomorrow, but who do you guys think the Marlins are sending down to make room for Villone? 882515[/snapback] Probably Valerio, but I'd like to see Vargas go back to starting in the minors if he won't get the chance up here...
July 31, 200521 yr Looking around the National League, I can find only one team (the Padres) with equal or better talent to ours in the bullpen. Cardinals maybe too, but I credit LaRussa and staellar SP+defense for most of their success.
July 31, 200521 yr Im guessing it wont be announced until late tonight or tomorrow, but who do you guys think the Marlins are sending down to make room for Villone? 882515[/snapback] Probably Valerio, but I'd like to see Vargas go back to starting in the minors if he won't get the chance up here... 882520[/snapback] I don't think they'll send Vargas. They need a starter for the double header in Colorado.
July 31, 200521 yr Hopefully it will be de los Santos who gets moved down. Too bad they couldn't find a replacement for Riedling as well. I wouldn't mind seeing Vargas get the next start over Moehler. 882524[/snapback] They should trade Riedling through waivers. He sucks.
July 31, 200521 yr Author From the Marlins website: MIAMI -- Adding depth to the bullpen is a constant quest for the Marlins. The club explored several relief options on Sunday and ended up acquiring veteran left-hander Ron Villone from the Mariners for Minor League pitchers Yorman Bazardo and Michael Flannery. Villone is 2-3 with a 2.45 ERA in 52 games, striking out 41 in 40 1/3 innings. The Marlins explored other relief options before obtaining the 35-year-old Villone. Also on Sunday, the Marlins entertained an offer for San Francisco left-hander Scott Eyre. That deal would have sent rookie Jason Vargas to the Giants, who were committed to taking Vargas over Double-A left-hander Scott Olsen. Villone broke in with the Padres in 1995, and he spent the past two seasons with the Mariners. Villone has six saves this season. 882505[/snapback] that's the reason "I trust in Beinfest" he waited to the last minute to have a team take his package of prospects rather than meet there demands. It helps a little that the bully has pitched well the last couple days.
July 31, 200521 yr Riedling has only 1 ER in 4 innings, proving himself in both long and short outings, since coming back from the minors. It has to be VDLS unless they want Vargas to return to starting.
July 31, 200521 yr From the Marlins website: MIAMI -- Adding depth to the bullpen is a constant quest for the Marlins. The club explored several relief options on Sunday and ended up acquiring veteran left-hander Ron Villone from the Mariners for Minor League pitchers Yorman Bazardo and Michael Flannery. Villone is 2-3 with a 2.45 ERA in 52 games, striking out 41 in 40 1/3 innings. The Marlins explored other relief options before obtaining the 35-year-old Villone. Also on Sunday, the Marlins entertained an offer for San Francisco left-hander Scott Eyre. That deal would have sent rookie Jason Vargas to the Giants, who were committed to taking Vargas over Double-A left-hander Scott Olsen. Villone broke in with the Padres in 1995, and he spent the past two seasons with the Mariners. Villone has six saves this season. 882505[/snapback] that's the reason "I trust in Beinfest" he waited to the last minute to have a team take his package of prospects rather than meet there demands. It helps a little that the bully has pitched well the last couple days. 882538[/snapback] Note, the Giants and Fish were talking about a Scott Eyre for Vargas deal. Whew, good thing Beinfest didn't do that deal!
July 31, 200521 yr Too bad we couldn't have added Redman as our 5th starter then have Valdez replace Riedling as long relief.. oh well, im just glad we have a solid lefty in our pen
July 31, 200521 yr From the Marlins website: MIAMI -- Adding depth to the bullpen is a constant quest for the Marlins. The club explored several relief options on Sunday and ended up acquiring veteran left-hander Ron Villone from the Mariners for Minor League pitchers Yorman Bazardo and Michael Flannery. Villone is 2-3 with a 2.45 ERA in 52 games, striking out 41 in 40 1/3 innings. The Marlins explored other relief options before obtaining the 35-year-old Villone. Also on Sunday, the Marlins entertained an offer for San Francisco left-hander Scott Eyre. That deal would have sent rookie Jason Vargas to the Giants, who were committed to taking Vargas over Double-A left-hander Scott Olsen. Villone broke in with the Padres in 1995, and he spent the past two seasons with the Mariners. Villone has six saves this season. 882505[/snapback] that's the reason "I trust in Beinfest" he waited to the last minute to have a team take his package of prospects rather than meet there demands. It helps a little that the bully has pitched well the last couple days. 882538[/snapback] Is it any wonder that no deals got made at this deadline? These GMs are shooting for the moon in these trades. Vargas or Olsen for a situational lefty? That's insane. The Villone deal makes sense because Bazardo, although he's got a great arm, has slid down the organizational depth chart this year. It amazes me that some of these GMs don't know how to make deals. There's no excuse for Tampa not getting something for Beaz, who is absolutely no use to them. Same for Redman and Mesa in Pittsburgh.
July 31, 200521 yr MIAMI -- Adding depth to the bullpen is a constant quest for the Marlins. The club explored several relief options on Sunday and ended up acquiring veteran left-hander Ron Villone from the Mariners for Minor League pitchers Yorman Bazardo and Michael Flannery. Villone is 2-3 with a 2.45 ERA in 52 games, striking out 41 in 40 1/3 innings. The Marlins explored other relief options before obtaining the 35-year-old Villone. Also on Sunday, the Marlins entertained an offer for San Francisco left-hander Scott Eyre. That deal would have sent rookie Jason Vargas to the Giants, who were committed to taking Vargas over Double-A left-hander Scott Olsen. Villone broke in with the Padres in 1995, and he spent the past two seasons with the Mariners. Villone has six saves this season. Glad that didn't happen . Not to bad of a deal but not great either. Im also happy to learn that Villone won't just be a rental since he has another year remaining on his contract. I can't complain cause we improved and I feel we gave up our worse top pitching prospect in Bazardo. Only negative for me today is that the Braves got Klye Fransworth who I would have preferred over Villone and is better than Villone.
July 31, 200521 yr Is it any wonder that no deals got made at this deadline? These GMs are shooting for the moon in these trades. Vargas or Olsen for a situational lefty? That's insane. The Villone deal makes sense because Bazardo, although he's got a great arm, has slid down the organizational depth chart this year. It amazes me that some of these GMs don't know how to make deals. There's no excuse for Tampa not getting something for Beaz, who is absolutely no use to them. Same for Redman and Mesa in Pittsburgh. 882547[/snapback] Blame it on the Mets for giving up Scott Kazmir for Zambrano or the Orioles for giving up Bautista for Grimsley. Now all the small markets have an inflated sense of value
July 31, 200521 yr Is it any wonder that no deals got made at this deadline?? These GMs are shooting for the moon in these trades.? Vargas or Olsen for a situational lefty?? That's insane.? The Villone deal makes sense because Bazardo, although he's got a great arm, has slid down the organizational depth chart this year.? It amazes me that some of these GMs don't know how to make deals.? There's no excuse for Tampa not getting something for Beaz, who is absolutely no use to them.? Same for Redman and Mesa in Pittsburgh. 882547[/snapback] Blame it on the Mets for giving up Scott Kazmir for Zambrano or the Orioles for giving up Bautista for Grimsley. Now all the small markets have an inflated sense of value 882550[/snapback] Great point, I was actually going to mention that Mets trade. And people wondered what the Marlins were doing drafting all those pitchers early in the draft. You can never have enough young pitchers when the cost of a lefty reliever is a top 10-15 prospect.
July 31, 200521 yr I like the move. We got a solid lefty in the pen without having to give up a ton. It's safe to say Bazardo's stock is dropping a bit. We held off giving up Olsen or Vargas. Things are looking pretty good around here, I'd say.
July 31, 200521 yr Only negative for me today is that the Braves got Klye Fransworth who I would have preferred over Villone and is better than Villone. 882549[/snapback] What Villone lacks in talent compared to Guardado or Farnsworth he makes up with his versatility and filling the needs of this team.
July 31, 200521 yr Ron Villone - R - Marlins? ? Marlins acquired LHP Ron Villone from the Mariners for RHP Yorman Bazardo and RHP Mike Flannery. Villone has a 2.45 ERA in 40 1/3 IP this season, but he also has his typical 1.4 WHIP. The big difference with him this year is that he's given up just two homers. He'll probably be a solid lefty reliever for the Marlins, but there is some downside here. Jul. 31 - 4:24 pm et Yorman Bazardo - R - Mariners? ? Mariners acquired RHP Yorman Bazardo and RHP Mike Flannery from the Marlins for LHP Ron Villone. Bazardo was the No. 3 pitching prospect in the Marlins organization behind Scott Olsen and Jason Vargas. The 21-year-old made one appearance in the majors back in May, but he's at least one year and maybe two years away from developing into a solid starter in the majors. With a hard sinker, a slider and a changeup, he's a potential No. 3 starter. Flannery has maybe a 25 percent chance of developing into a useful reliever. Jul. 31 - 4:21 pm et Kyle Farnsworth - R - Braves Braves acquired RHP Kyle Farnsworth from the Tigers for RHP Roman Colon and RHP Zach Miner. Probably a smaller price than the Marlins paid for Ron Villone, making this a very good deal for Braves GM John Schuerholz. Farnsworth is eligible for free agency this winter and is probably just a rental for the Braves. We're assuming he'll take over as Atlanta's primary option in the eighth inning. Jul. 31 - 4:39 pm et Roman Colon - R - Tigers? ? Tigers acquired RHP Roman Colon and RHP Zach Miner from the Braves for RHP Kyle Farnsworth. We would have thought the Tigers could have done better for Farnsworth. Colon has a big-time arm, but he turns 26 in two weeks and is still learning to pitch. It's possible that he'll develop into a closer in time. However, he shouldn't be a candidate to take over in that role now. He'll likely be used as a middle reliever or setup man. Jul. 31 - 4:37 pm et Zach Miner - S - Tigers? ? RHP Zach Miner was traded from the Braves to the Tigers in a three-player deal. Miner, 23, was given a big bonus to sign with the Braves in 2000, but he's never developed and it looks like a move to the pen is in order. The Tigers will assign him to Double- or Triple-A. Jul. 31 - 4:34 pm et Thats something I don't like to hear.
July 31, 200521 yr I'm sorry but Vargas is looking dominant in the relief role and well we can certainly turn this into a 6 inning game with Vargas/Alfonseca/Jones. And if Mota returns to form and with the addition of Villone we got one hell of a depth in the pen.
July 31, 200521 yr Nice pickup for the pen. Don't know if this has been discussed, but how long is he signed for?
July 31, 200521 yr Nice pickup for the pen. Don't know if this has been discussed, but how long is he signed for? 882602[/snapback] Through next year
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