If enough people click their heels together and say "Bush hates me because I'm black" all the damage from New Orleans will go away.

 

Why must this turn political when people are f*cking trying to survive, and everything they've had up till now is destroyed.

 

s*** Kanye, it's a Telethon to help survivors...making things political doesn't help. What a piece of s***. Whether his comments are correct or not, it's not the time or place. What a s*** tart.

Boog Sciambi's pick on MySpace:

 

 

 

What a tool you are....

 

And how does George Bush not help black people? Spell this out to me someone, if it is even possible. It isnt, so save your time.

 

George Bush can not directly speed up the relief efforts or help that much more. He can direct it, but he cant make things happen instantly.

 

Why is everyone taking Kanye's words to heart as if they actually mean something. Kanye has been against Republican's and Bush in his CDs, well before the Hurricane came....so this shouldnt actually mean anything.

 

Wow, just wow.

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I don't know how many people here actually believe that Bush doesn't care about black people. But I'm sure there will be plenty of black people (and un-black people) who will agree with what Kanye said. He's hardly the only person against Republicans and Bush, and just because he is doesn't make his criticism worthless. You don't have to be a Republican to make valid complaints against them or against Bush.

 

To me, Bush does seem oddly disconnected from this whole tragedy...in his press conferences, he seems to be going through the motions...very different from post 9/11. I personally think this has nothing to do with the fact that the public face of this tragedy right now is primarily black people. I think it has more to do with the fact that Dubya can't see how fixing any of this mess is going to help him win the Iraq "war".

 

Kanye's comments are out there now, though, and they're going to relayed all over the internet and all over the networks. There's no question that the racial element of this tragedy has gone from taboo to a topic for public discussion over the past 2-3 days. And Bush is going to have to rip Kanye a new one, I think, if he's going to be able to draw on whatever leadership qualities he has in the coming days.

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Why does Bush have to respond to a rapper? What the hell has this guy done to give himself any credibility or to be taken seriously?

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Throw a baby like tantrum/fit when he did not win new artist of the year at the American Music Awards. :plain

 

For real though, this is absurd. Kayne is one of my favorite artists, but he is baby and is out of line, plain and simple.

 

This is not about politics or personal preference, this was a telethon to raise money for the victims and I am sure he offended alot of white america by doing this, many of which may not donate now. Comments like this to not extinguish racism in America, it only adds feul to the fire. Kanye is a moron and anyone who is praising him for saying this is one as well.

People get too worked up over this.

 

He's an entertainer with an opinion and he stated it on tv. Big freakin' deal. It's called freedom of speech. Write him a letter. I could care less.

People get too worked up over this.

 

He's an entertainer with an opinion and he stated it on tv. Big freakin' deal. It's called freedom of speech. Write him a letter. I could care less.

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There's a time and a place for everything. This was the wrong place. I'm sure he cost the Red Cross some money but shooting off his mouth.

People get too worked up over this.

 

He's an entertainer with an opinion and he stated it on tv. Big freakin' deal. It's called freedom of speech. Write him a letter. I could care less.

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Buckeye strikes again!

I'm not going to read all the comments on here, but....

 

 

why is it that its always a race issue. nevermind that some 70 % + of the NOLA population is black. Nevermind that its not a federal issue until the state asks for help officially.

 

 

Admin Elder is right, blacks are the most racist group of people out there.

 

 

What other group will use ethnic slurs amongst themselves and then say "its ok, we can call each other that cause we are that"

 

 

lets just keep blaming others instead of looking at the real problem. what a tool this kayne west is, whomever the hell (s)he is

good post das.

 

great post.

Yeah, great way to stereotype.

I'm not going to read all the comments on here, but....

 

 

why is it that its always a race issue. nevermind that some 70 % + of the NOLA population is black. Nevermind that its not a federal issue until the state asks for help officially.

 

 

Admin Elder is right, blacks are the most racist group of people out there.

 

 

What other group will use ethnic slurs amongst themselves and then say "its ok, we can call each other that cause we are that"

 

 

lets just keep blaming others instead of looking at the real problem. what a tool this kayne west is, whomever the hell (s)he is

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I'd agree there is a double standard. It's stupid to say it isn't, because unless you're dressed in a certain style, talk a certain way and roll with a certain crew, you can't get away with the n-word if you're white. Personally, I don't care about it's use at all. It generally makes anyone who says it, derogatory or otherwise look stupid (hence terms like "nukka" arise which strike me as much funnier).

 

There's a great episode of the NBC version of the Office where the boss does a Chris Rock routine (n****s and black people) and gets in trouble for it. He asks, "Why is it, when Chris Rock does this routine it's hilarious and groundbreaking and yet when I do it, with the same inflection--the same intonation, it's seen as a bad thing?" He later goes on to do it and of course it ends up blowing up in his face.

 

Let's face it, the n-word is a powerful word. I can't even bring myself to type it in this context for God's sake. It can either blow up in your face or you can say it without any fear. It depends on the setting, context and audience. It's the only word I can think of MORE taboo than f***.

OK, so out of the last 20 posts in this thread, about half have taken up the notion that we should either ignore race or racism (I'm not sure which), just pretend it isn't there, and then there won't be a problem anymore. That's an extremely idealistic viewpoint, and, of course, it completely ignores reality. It isn't so much that race has that much to do with the response to this disaster, but it has everything to do with who's going to make it through this mess alright, and who's pretty much screwed. The hurricane really exposed the level of racial inequality that exists in this country, and people are now seeing a level of poverty that they probably never knew existed. I fully admit I didn't realize just how bad it was. It's kind of shocking.

 

The other half of the last 20 posts are worse, as they seem to be laying the blame for our racial problems at the feet of black people. Now, I'm not saying black people don't harbor racial biases. EVERYBODY harbors racial biases. It just so happens, though, that more than any other group, it seems to be black people who are suffering because of these biases. Are black people really the most racist group out there, or is it just that they're the group with the biggest reason to complain? Caucasian folks, like myself, don't have s*** to complain about, not compared to pretty much everyone else. But that doesn't mean we don't have our quiet biases.

 

This whole fiasco has rightfully stirred up a lot of anger in black folks, who have been confronted not only with their status as almost second-class citizens in this country, but also in such a manner as to expose a level of bias in the media, who for a time were focused so much on the "hoodlums" that they seemed to be overlooking the thousands of law-abiding black people who are just trying to make it to tomorrow. There's a whole lot of anger out there, and Kanye West tapped into it, and said what almost no one else could.

 

It was the wrong time and place for it, I don't disagree with that. But it's ridiculous to overlook the import of what he said simply because of when he said it. There are many people who would probably suggest that there's no wrong time to speak out against injustice. And maybe those folks are right.

OK, so out of the last 20 posts in this thread, about half have taken up the notion that we should either ignore race or racism (I'm not sure which), just pretend it isn't there, and then there won't be a problem anymore. That's an extremely idealistic viewpoint, and, of course, it completely ignores reality. It isn't so much that race has that much to do with the response to this disaster, but it has everything to do with who's going to make it through this mess alright, and who's pretty much screwed. The hurricane really exposed the level of racial inequality that exists in this country, and people are now seeing a level of poverty that they probably never knew existed. I fully admit I didn't realize just how bad it was. It's kind of shocking.

 

The other half of the last 20 posts are worse, as they seem to be laying the blame for our racial problems at the feet of black people. Now, I'm not saying black people don't harbor racial biases. EVERYBODY harbors racial biases. It just so happens, though, that more than any other group, it seems to be black people who are suffering because of these biases. Are black people really the most racist group out there, or is it just that they're the group with the biggest reason to complain? Caucasian folks, like myself, don't have s*** to complain about, not compared to pretty much everyone else. But that doesn't mean we don't have our quiet biases.

 

This whole fiasco has rightfully stirred up a lot of anger in black folks, who have been confronted not only with their status as almost second-class citizens in this country, but also in such a manner as to expose a level of bias in the media, who for a time were focused so much on the "hoodlums" that they seemed to be overlooking the thousands of law-abiding black people who are just trying to make it to tomorrow. There's a whole lot of anger out there, and Kanye West tapped into it, and said what almost no one else could.

 

It was the wrong time and place for it, I don't disagree with that. But it's ridiculous to overlook the import of what he said simply because of when he said it. There are many people who would probably suggest that there's no wrong time to speak out against injustice. And maybe those folks are right.

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You put it better than I ever could have.

 

I'm conflicted because there's no easy answers. But, you're right, it's stupid to pretend there's no diversity and make it a "color-free" world because that's not what it is. But, of all issues race is the most precarious.

OK, so out of the last 20 posts in this thread, about half have taken up the notion that we should either ignore race or racism (I'm not sure which), just pretend it isn't there, and then there won't be a problem anymore. That's an extremely idealistic viewpoint, and, of course, it completely ignores reality. It isn't so much that race has that much to do with the response to this disaster, but it has everything to do with who's going to make it through this mess alright, and who's pretty much screwed. The hurricane really exposed the level of racial inequality that exists in this country, and people are now seeing a level of poverty that they probably never knew existed. I fully admit I didn't realize just how bad it was. It's kind of shocking.

 

The other half of the last 20 posts are worse, as they seem to be laying the blame for our racial problems at the feet of black people. Now, I'm not saying black people don't harbor racial biases. EVERYBODY harbors racial biases. It just so happens, though, that more than any other group, it seems to be black people who are suffering because of these biases. Are black people really the most racist group out there, or is it just that they're the group with the biggest reason to complain? Caucasian folks, like myself, don't have s*** to complain about, not compared to pretty much everyone else. But that doesn't mean we don't have our quiet biases.

 

This whole fiasco has rightfully stirred up a lot of anger in black folks, who have been confronted not only with their status as almost second-class citizens in this country, but also in such a manner as to expose a level of bias in the media, who for a time were focused so much on the "hoodlums" that they seemed to be overlooking the thousands of law-abiding black people who are just trying to make it to tomorrow. There's a whole lot of anger out there, and Kanye West tapped into it, and said what almost no one else could.

 

It was the wrong time and place for it, I don't disagree with that. But it's ridiculous to overlook the import of what he said simply because of when he said it. There are many people who would probably suggest that there's no wrong time to speak out against injustice. And maybe those folks are right.

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Read Admin Elder's book. Its really eye opening, I mean he is afterall black. I'm not sure if other ethnic minority groups act the same way, if they do its also sad.

 

Ya Kayne West said what others are thinking, how can a city with a huge crime rate, with a population that is nearly 80% black, have mostly black people committing crimes in a time like this....lets not forget that fact which everyone seems to gloss over.

 

 

NOLA was a piece of crap city in terms of crime rate before the hurricane, how do you expect people to behave when they are stuck in this place and there really are no resources to stop you from your crime spree?

 

 

If this were to happen in any other town where there were a high crime rate and a high population of some other ethnic group the same exact thing would happen. And you probably dont have celebrities of those ethnic groups playing the race card.

Here's a quote for yee:

 

http://katrinaworkingwell.ytmnd.com/

 

Of course, take into account the site. But, I'd be interested to hear the context!