September 13, 200521 yr You mean a Marlins' message board would overwhelmingly support their own pitcher being the NL Cy Young winner? Naw way.
September 13, 200521 yr If it wasn't for those 3 starts..... Carpenter is on one of the best runs a pitcher has had. What a streak. He deserves it, but Dontrelle should be given an award as well and just leave out the AL this year.
September 13, 200521 yr Unless carpenter gets lit up a few times before the season is over, he should win it. He has had the best season this year and deserves it.
September 13, 200521 yr you beat me to it! but if willis continues and carpenter screws up towards the end it can be a very interesting race. GO TRELLE!
September 13, 200521 yr maybe Carpenter will get shelled in his next outing & LaRussa will leave him in while he gives up 12 runs. :thumbup
September 13, 200521 yr If Carpenter loses 2 out of his last 4 games, then I think D Train has a shot.
September 13, 200521 yr Willis 21-8 2.49 ERA 47 BB 141 K 7 CG 58 ER Carpenter 21-4 2.21 ERA 45 BB 198 K 7 CG 54 ER Willis MAY win it, but I think the thing that may come to haunt him were a few games he pitched good enough to win, and got no/little run support. ..............................Score........ IP . H . R . ER BB K May 28. loss to NYM..1-6........6.0 8 . 2 . 2 . 3 . 7 June 18 no dec LAA...1-2........7.0 10 0 . 0 . 1 . 4 Aug 1 loss to STL.....1-3..........5.0 3 . 3 . 1 . 3 . 4 Aug 12 loss to S.F.....0-1.........8.0 5 . 1 . 1 . 1 . 6 Plus he had a few bad games just before and after the Allstar Break, But if he just got some run support in these 4 games, he's 25-4, and would be an easy pick no doubt.
September 13, 200521 yr maybe Carpenter will get shelled in his next outing & LaRussa will leave him in while he gives up 12 runs. :thumbup 943049[/snapback] His next start is tomorrow versus the Pirates...the buccos will probably not score a run.
September 13, 200521 yr Not to try and give the D-Train some extra slack, but voting should really consider how the Cardinals have given better run support to their pitchers than the Marlins hitters have. You have 5 guys on that team that can get to 15 wins on the back of their offense alone. :blink: With the D-Train's ERA and win record so close to Carpenter and the fact that he helps provide his own offense on a team that has struggled to score all season, I would have to say that the D-Train's record is definitely more impressive. Not taking anything away from Carp though. If he wins it, its well deserved. :thumbup
September 13, 200521 yr The Cy Young is all up to Carpenter at this point. If he continues to doos what he doos, then he'll win. If by some freaky chance he screws up and gives up 70 runs in his next few starts, then Willis has a chance to win.
September 13, 200521 yr IMO, Carpenter has been undeniably better than Willis in every category, so the question of run support is irrelevant. The stat that sticks out in my mind is his 220 innings pitched in 29 starts. The guy is a horse. Compare that to Willis' 209 1/3 IP in 30 starts or Roger's 192 1/3 in 29. Also, yeah, Carpenter and Willis have similar ERA's, but Carp's WHIP is insane... I'll be surprised if he doesn't win it.
September 13, 200521 yr Simply put, those 3 horrible starts around the all-star game cost him a legit shot at this thing. If those had just been average outings, his numbers would be a lot more comparable. July 8-22: 0-3, 15.92 ERA, 2.31 WHIP, 13 IP in 3 games started. Rest of the season: 21-5, 2.06 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, 196.1 IP in 27 games started. 3 games in July probably cost him the award.
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