Which manager will command the most money from your perspective? Also which of these managers were actually successful in the playoffs, how many titles?

 

 

You might be my favorite new poster. You make good topics and ask good questions.

 

 

I'd love to see Lou Piniella, he's like Jack but with more fire. I don't know why everyone's in Davey Johnson's pants on this board...I think there's probably a reason he hasn't managed lately.

 

If not Lou, I'd love to see Grady Little. Girardi is too young and inexperienced. I also wouldn't mind Fredi Gonzalez, who I wanted as a manager after Boles/Perez instead of Torborg.

 

I agree that Girardi could be risky. I don't have a particular order, but I would lump the following candidates in the "extremely well qualified and I like them" category:

 

Grady Little

Fredi Gonzalez

Tony Pena

Davey Johnson - I think he's shown a history of winning. Maybe he's been out of the game lately because he was taking a break.

People on the team are whining about Jack's negativity and you guys want Ozzie? Are you SURE about that?

 

He's called one of his own players a cancer and he is probably 5-10x more negative than Jack could ever be.

 

The way it's shaking out, to me, is that this team needs a player's manager.

Loria will pick Girardi, and he's the best choice, having learned from Joe tOrre. Why on earth would you want one of those retreads, who never could manage in the first place.

 

Grady Little? 55 years old, managed the most talented team in baseball and couldn't get out of second place. Intimidated by players into bad decisions. And you'd want him?

 

Fredi Gonzalez? an acceptable candidate, but minor league managing and coaching 3b with Atlanta, while good,is not as good preparation as Girardi has had with NY.

 

Tony Pena? Are you kidding me? A .422 record in 3 years of managing? Just what criteria are you using?

 

Davey Johnson? talk about the game passing someone by. Han't managed in 5 years, and was last successful in the mid-80s. And 62 years old to boot.

 

Anyway, what we think doesn't matter. Girardi is Loria's first choice.

What about Davey Lopes? I think he managed a crappy Brewers team for a few years. Plus I like how he played and if he manages that way then that's good for the ballclub. Plus he's he's not 111 years old like Mckeon.

1. Lou Piniella ? He and the Tampa Bay Devil Rays are going to have lost almost 300 games by the time they're finished with each other after this third season together. Big deal. He's also won more than 1,500 games at various stops with a World Series title in Cincinnati along the line. The volatile Piniella might be exactly what the Marlins need to shake them from their malaise, and he's one of the few managers who's an attraction on his own.

 

2. Ozzie Guillen ? The former Marlins coach is in his second season as a manager, and he's trying to keep the faltering Chicago White Sox from an horrendous collapse. The White Sox were 83-79 last year (same as the Marlins, by the way) under his rookie stewardship and might maintain the American League lead in victories this time around if they somehow straighten themselves out. Guillen, though, is hinting about leaving

 

Chicago after this season regardless of what the White Sox do or don't accomplish.

 

3. Jim Leyland ? The man who took the Marlins to their first World Series triumph in 1997, stuck around through one season after the dismantling of that team, re-surfaced in Colorado and quit there. Now, he says he wants to give managing another shot "in the right situation." That means somewhere he'd have a decent chance of winning another World Series crown. Hmmm.

 

4. Joe Girardi ? The Marlins would do well to beat a bunch of teams to this punch. Girardi is the New York Yankees' bench coach at the moment, but he's going to run his own shop soon enough.

 

5. Admin Bowa ? Florida wanted him as a bench coach this season, which would have made Bowa a successor-in-waiting for McKeon's chair. His hyperintense personality wore out everything and everyone in Philadelphia, but the kind of spark Bowa unfailingly provides (in the short term, at least) would serve to keep the Marlins from falling into lapses of lethargy.

 

There is, of course, the not so small matter of bottom-line budget considerations. Loria isn't going to pay big money for a manager, and that's what it likely would take to land Piniella, Leyland or Bowa.

 

Girardi would be a hunch play, and the remote chance of the Marlins hitting on two of those in succession might lead Loria and General Manager Admin Beinfest to...

 

... Guillen, whose Chicago posturing could be interpreted as groundwork for a return to Florida if the smoke from McKeon's cigars really does clear out of the clubhouse office.

 

What do you think?

1. Lou Piniella ? He and the Tampa Bay Devil Rays are going to have lost almost 300 games by the time they're finished with each other after this third season together. Big deal. He's also won more than 1,500 games at various stops with a World Series title in Cincinnati along the line. The volatile Piniella might be exactly what the Marlins need to shake them from their malaise, and he's one of the few managers who's an attraction on his own.

 

2. Ozzie Guillen ? The former Marlins coach is in his second season as a manager, and he's trying to keep the faltering Chicago White Sox from an horrendous collapse. The White Sox were 83-79 last year (same as the Marlins, by the way) under his rookie stewardship and might maintain the American League lead in victories this time around if they somehow straighten themselves out. Guillen, though, is hinting about leaving

 

Chicago after this season regardless of what the White Sox do or don't accomplish.

 

3. Jim Leyland ? The man who took the Marlins to their first World Series triumph in 1997, stuck around through one season after the dismantling of that team, re-surfaced in Colorado and quit there. Now, he says he wants to give managing another shot "in the right situation." That means somewhere he'd have a decent chance of winning another World Series crown. Hmmm.

 

4. Joe Girardi ? The Marlins would do well to beat a bunch of teams to this punch. Girardi is the New York Yankees' bench coach at the moment, but he's going to run his own shop soon enough.

 

5. Admin Bowa ? Florida wanted him as a bench coach this season, which would have made Bowa a successor-in-waiting for McKeon's chair. His hyperintense personality wore out everything and everyone in Philadelphia, but the kind of spark Bowa unfailingly provides (in the short term, at least) would serve to keep the Marlins from falling into lapses of lethargy.

 

There is, of course, the not so small matter of bottom-line budget considerations. Loria isn't going to pay big money for a manager, and that's what it likely would take to land Piniella, Leyland or Bowa.

 

Girardi would be a hunch play, and the remote chance of the Marlins hitting on two of those in succession might lead Loria and General Manager Admin Beinfest to...

 

... Guillen, whose Chicago posturing could be interpreted as groundwork for a return to Florida if the smoke from McKeon's cigars really does clear out of the clubhouse office.

 

What do you think?

 

I like that analysis. Where did you get it? Link? In the end, I really do think Guillen wants to be in Florida. He played for the White Sox, but he clearly enjoyed his time with the Marlins and it's an ideal place for a Latin manager to manage.

1. Lou Piniella ? He and the Tampa Bay Devil Rays are going to have lost almost 300 games by the time they're finished with each other after this third season together. Big deal. He's also won more than 1,500 games at various stops with a World Series title in Cincinnati along the line. The volatile Piniella might be exactly what the Marlins need to shake them from their malaise, and he's one of the few managers who's an attraction on his own.

 

2. Ozzie Guillen ? The former Marlins coach is in his second season as a manager, and he's trying to keep the faltering Chicago White Sox from an horrendous collapse. The White Sox were 83-79 last year (same as the Marlins, by the way) under his rookie stewardship and might maintain the American League lead in victories this time around if they somehow straighten themselves out. Guillen, though, is hinting about leaving

 

Chicago after this season regardless of what the White Sox do or don't accomplish.

 

3. Jim Leyland ? The man who took the Marlins to their first World Series triumph in 1997, stuck around through one season after the dismantling of that team, re-surfaced in Colorado and quit there. Now, he says he wants to give managing another shot "in the right situation." That means somewhere he'd have a decent chance of winning another World Series crown. Hmmm.

 

4. Joe Girardi ? The Marlins would do well to beat a bunch of teams to this punch. Girardi is the New York Yankees' bench coach at the moment, but he's going to run his own shop soon enough.

 

5. Admin Bowa ? Florida wanted him as a bench coach this season, which would have made Bowa a successor-in-waiting for McKeon's chair. His hyperintense personality wore out everything and everyone in Philadelphia, but the kind of spark Bowa unfailingly provides (in the short term, at least) would serve to keep the Marlins from falling into lapses of lethargy.

 

There is, of course, the not so small matter of bottom-line budget considerations. Loria isn't going to pay big money for a manager, and that's what it likely would take to land Piniella, Leyland or Bowa.

 

Girardi would be a hunch play, and the remote chance of the Marlins hitting on two of those in succession might lead Loria and General Manager Admin Beinfest to...

 

... Guillen, whose Chicago posturing could be interpreted as groundwork for a return to Florida if the smoke from McKeon's cigars really does clear out of the clubhouse office.

 

What do you think?

 

I like that analysis. Where did you get it? Link? In the end, I really do think Guillen wants to be in Florida. He played for the White Sox, but he clearly enjoyed his time with the Marlins and it's an ideal place for a Latin manager to manage.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/marlins/conte...stoda_0925.html

Who loria picks as our manager is going to be huge. The choice of manager IMO is going to be an indicator of the direction this team is going to be headed in. Pick a guy like fredi gonzalez and it smells of rebuilding, pick a guy like leyland or pinella and it feels lke we're going to attempt another run at it

Thanks. I think it would be good to have Guillen rejoin the Marlins as manager. I think he brings a certain fire, enthusiasm, and "go for it" attitutude that the team badly needs.

Honestly, I don't think the collapse is this mighty amazing thing. They aren't losing every game here. They've been basically .500 since they put it into cruise control (newsflash- Cards did the same thing, is LaRussa a bad manager?) they just have the misfortune that the Indians apparently left losing in the first half of the season. They will still make the playoffs, and won't do much because they aren't built for the playoffs. Ozzie might even win them a game or two in October through decisions.

 

I like the Ozzie choice.

If Lowell sticks around and Ozzie comes back, and Lowell still sucks, what will his excuse be then?

Thanks. I think it would be good to have Guillen rejoin the Marlins as manager. I think he brings a certain fire, enthusiasm, and "go for it" attitutude that the team badly needs.

 

 

Guillen would be great. I just don't believe he will be available.

I want the old marlins 3rd base coach ozzie to come back he has the best recored in the major leagues despite the slump in the end of the season. :thumbup