Posted November 21, 200519 yr Boston is reportedly offering shortstop prospect Hanley Ramirez and one of its own pitching prospects, either right-hander Anibal Sanchez or left-hander Jon Lester to the Marlins for Josh Beckett. -- Dallas Morning News
November 21, 200519 yr Well the only good thing from this is texas will have to raise their offer if other teams are entering
November 21, 200519 yr Boston is reportedly offering shortstop prospect Hanley Ramirez and one of its own pitching prospects, either right-hander Anibal Sanchez or left-hander Jon Lester to the Marlins for Josh Beckett. -- Dallas Morning News  Hell yeah...do it. I want Han Ram! :notworthy
November 21, 200519 yr Author Forgive my ignorance, but can someone (Passion?) explain all of the hype and exactly what the big deal is with Han-Ram? Is he really worth JOSH BECKETT? Is Han-Ram MLB ready? If so, we wouldn't need to resign Seabass and Andino could stick around as a decent backup along with Easley.
November 21, 200519 yr Sanchez and Ramirez is probaby the best we'd get for Josh and Lowell. question is, does BoSox take Lowell in this trade also? If not, don't do it. Josh by himself is worth more
November 21, 200519 yr Im thinking it would be Annibal Sanchez as the 2nd piece in the deal... Ramirez could start this year/middle of this year.  Sanchez was in AA for the end of this year. He was born 2-27-84. A - 6-1, 2.40 ERA, 78.2 IP, 95 K's. AA - 3-5, 3.45 ERA, 57.1 IP, 63 K's. I dont want to give him up really, he hits mid 90s on the gun and his control is good for someone that throws as hard as he does. He has two breaking ball pitches...a changeup and a curve, the curve is the weaker of the two, but it has gotten better recently.  Hope that helps some.  If It means that Boston has to consume Lowell's deal to get a 25 year old ace, they need to do it. With Pedoria and Renteria in front of Ramirez, I dont think he has much of a future in Boston.
November 21, 200519 yr Passion, how about Lester? From what I've read it seems the Marlins like him better
November 21, 200519 yr Author Han-Ram scouting report: http://www.soxprospects.com/players/ramirez-hanley.htm Scouting Report: Athletic five-tool shortstop with great instincts, above average speed, and all-star potential. Makes excellent contact. Very good range with a top-notch arm. Displays power potential, but the numbers have yet to show it. Had some disciplinary problems earlier in his career, many of which have been attributed to dealing with a great deal of hype and earlier immaturity. Has been a model citizen in recent seasons. Almost all reports have listed Ramirez as the #1 prospect in the organization for years now - he signed at the age of sixteen. It has also been said that Hanley enjoys playing in front of large crowds, which actually has been reflected in his stats. He loves playing the game and almost always wears a smile on his face. He has adjusted well at nearly every level, improving his game preparation and self discipline annually. He has the tools and abilities to switch to center field or third base down the line. Highest ceiling in organization. Uh oh :mischief .
November 21, 200519 yr If we know Beinfest we should know that when he makes a trade is something that catches everyone by surprise, and he always seems to come out on top. So I trust that he know exactly what hes doing and in the end the team will be better off after this off season.
November 21, 200519 yr Author Here's another scouting report on him, obviously it's a little dated with the Nomar/A-Rod comments at the beginning, but it's still good information nonetheless and they compare him to BJ Upton. Top Prospect: Hanley Ramirez, ss Age: 20 Ht.: 6-1 Wt.: 170 Bats: S Throws: R Signed: Dominican Republic, 2000 Signed by: Levy Ochoa Background: While the Red Sox have Nomar Garciaparra and are pursuing a trade for Alex Rodriguez, they have another potential five-tool shortstop coming up in Ramirez. His first two pro seasons were nothing short of sensational, as he batted a combined .349/.400/.541. He was Boston?s Rookie-level Dominican Summer Player of the Year in 2001, and the No. 1 prospect in both the Rookie-level Gulf Coast and short-season New York-Penn leagues as an encore. Ramirez? ascent slowed in 2003, his first exposure to full-season ball. He started slowly at low Class A Augusta, then was banished to extended spring training for 10 days in early May after he made an obscene gesture to fans in a game at South Georgia. He settled down after he returned and finished with steady if not spectacular numbers for a teenaged infielder in the South Atlantic League. Though he didn?t tear up low Class A or force a midseason promotion, the Red Sox are pleased with what they call a solid developmental year. Strengths: Tampa Bay?s B.J. Upton is the only minor league shortstop whose raw tools compare to Ramirez?. He?s the best athlete and fastest baserunner, and has the strongest infield arm in the Red Sox system?and he?s most dangerous at the plate. Ramirez has quick hands, a smooth stroke and lots of bat speed. He has pitch recognition beyond his years, so he?s not vulnerable to breaking balls and is able to hit deep in counts. If he puts it all together, he could be a .300/.370/.500 shortstop in the majors. He improved his baserunning skills in 2003, and his combination of speed and aggressiveness makes him a stolen base threat. His arm also got better last year, as he maintained plus arm strength throughout the season for the first time. He has classic shortstop actions and reliable hands. Weaknesses: The Red Sox have tried to temper the hype swirling around Ramirez because it has come so quickly that he hasn?t handled it well. His May suspension wasn?t an isolated incident. He was sent home from instructional league in 2002 after he cursed at a trainer. Ramirez did a better job of keeping his composure and acting more professionally when he came back from extended spring training. He needs to let the game come to him instead of trying to do too much. Ramirez is too worried about hitting the ball out of the park, so he lengthens his swing and gets overaggressive. He should be able to work counts and draw walks, but his impatience often gets the best of him. He made 36 errors at Augusta, mostly on throws where he had little chance to get the runner or where he just got careless. The Future: Once Ramirez becomes a true professional, he should take off. The Red Sox hope that will happen in 2004 at high Class A Sarasota. If Boston deals for Rodriguez or re-signs Garciaparra, Ramirez could become a very valuable trading chip.
November 21, 200519 yr How close to MLB ready are all of these guys? Anibal and Hanley could both likely be callups in September 06, but I think they could definitely be starters on Opening Day 07. Especially if Hanley quits swinging for the fences.
November 21, 200519 yr Passion, how about Lester? From what I've read it seems the Marlins like him better The Red Sox like him better too.  Iowa...the deal would include Lowell, the Red Sox have accepted the fact they will have to consume his contract...although if they did get him, they would most likely spin him off on the tigers or Twins.
November 21, 200519 yr Ramirez and Sanchez for Beckett and Lowell... I liked it...but only because we have too
November 21, 200519 yr Only they take Lowell and his contract. We need that steaming pile of crap contract out of here.
November 21, 200519 yr Has Han Ram been to the majors yet, meaning has he begun his process of arbitration and eventually becoming a FA?
November 21, 200519 yr :wub: Â I'd like to keep Josh, but if there's a deal that I could live with, this is it.
November 21, 200519 yr Has Han Ram been to the majors yet, meaning has he begun his process of arbitration and eventually becoming a FA? He played in two games this year, thats all he has ever played.
