March 3, 200620 yr This was on the Sun Sentinel web site and also mentioned on a WQAM update. SA $300 million to build a stadium. (yea, right) http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/sou...-home-headlines
March 3, 200620 yr In theory, it said that the Stadium would get done by the 2010 season, does that mean the marlins would leave as soon as possible or wait until then? If you think there were small crowds before, wait until they announce (hopefully not) a move.
March 3, 200620 yr This sounds pretty serious. It concerns me. We should put this up for the voters of S. Florida to decide in September. Cape, any word on whether this will come up before the voters of S. Florida? BTW, I hate Samson.
March 3, 200620 yr I dunno...do you really think it would be possible for them to build a retractable roof stadium for 300 million? Doubtful
March 3, 200620 yr Well, if it's San Antonio contributing 300 mil and the Marlins contributing the 192 or so million they were contributing to the Miami stadium deal, it could definitely be enough. Otherwise no.
March 3, 200620 yr From WPLG Channel 10, click10.com: San Antonio Reportedly Will Offer Marlins Stadium Deal POSTED: 9:35 am EST March 3, 2006 UPDATED: 10:49 am EST March 3, 2006 MIAMI -- Major League Baseball chief operating officer Bob DuPuy said the Florida Marlins appear to be leaning toward San Antonio as their new home. Team president David Samson said that officials likely will visit San Antonio again and that "talks are serious." So serious, in fact, that the county in Texas where San Antonio is located will reportedly present a stadium-financing plan to the team, according to the San Antonio Express-News. Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff said the plan involves using public and private funding to raise the estimated $300 million it would take to build an MLB stadium. "We look forward to discussing this plan with Judge Wolff," Samson said. "It's the first step of a long, interesting process to see if there is a match." Already in weekly communication with the Marlins, Wolff said he would attempt to put the proposal on the November ballot if negotiations with the team pick up speed. Wolff's proposal follows the same plan used to build the AT&T Center for the San Antonio Spurs, which opened in 2002 at a cost of $189 million. Voters in 1999 approved increases in the hotel-occupancy and car-rental taxes to finance the county's $146.5 million share. The Spurs provided the rest of the funding, including $41 million from the arena's naming rights. Wolff said voter approval would be needed to refinance the bonds, pay off the AT&T Center debt early and use new bonds to pay for a baseball stadium. The plan would not incorporate sales or property tax, he said. The Marlins would choose the site for a stadium. In January, the Marlins met with Hialeah city officials to discuss the chances of a new ballpark being built for the team there. The city is the state's fifth most-populous one and is located just a few miles northwest of downtown Miami. Marlins officials also have visited Portland, Ore., Las Vegas and Norfolk, Va. Las Vegas had been considered a front-runner, but it is thought that MLB officials would not want to relocate a team to the gambling capital of the U.S. In November, Samson announced that MLB Commissioner Bud Selig had given the team permission to consider offers from other cities. The announcement came after years of negotiations between the team, the city of Miami and Miami-Dade County to finance a new stadium. The Marlins requested a retractable-roof stadium at the site of the Orange Bowl, but could not come to an agreement on the funding. There were also reports that Miami Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga, who originally owned the Marlins before selling the team in 1997, had offered land and money to the financially strapped team to build a new ballpark on the property next to Dolphins Stadium, but that offer no longer appears to be on the table. Samson has said he hopes the team can remain in South Florida. Marlins officials have been eager to get a stadium of their own. The team has shared a stadium with the Dolphins since the franchise began play in 1993. The Marlins won the World Series in 1997 and 2003. This doesn't look good at ALL. And you know what bothers me the most...they're already in WEEKLY COMMUNICATIONS with each other. Enjoy them, Das.
March 3, 200620 yr How are the people in St. Pete enjoying those Giants games? I'm not saying that there is nothing to this, just that i'll believe it when I see it. Until then, I refuse to believe that MLB is willing to leave the South Florida market for the much smaller San Antonio market. My quick Internet search found that San Antonio is the #30 TV market compared to Miami which I saw at #15 but that didn't include Broward and Palm Beach. I can be dead wrong, but I just don't see it happening. What I would like to see happen is for MLB step up and take the role they have been promising that they would. I know that they are busy in DC, but make some kind of effort down here.
March 3, 200620 yr From WPLG Channel 10, click10.com: San Antonio Reportedly Will Offer Marlins Stadium Deal POSTED: 9:35 am EST March 3, 2006 UPDATED: 10:49 am EST March 3, 2006 MIAMI -- Major League Baseball chief operating officer Bob DuPuy said the Florida Marlins appear to be leaning toward San Antonio as their new home. Team president David Samson said that officials likely will visit San Antonio again and that "talks are serious." So serious, in fact, that the county in Texas where San Antonio is located will reportedly present a stadium-financing plan to the team, according to the San Antonio Express-News. Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff said the plan involves using public and private funding to raise the estimated $300 million it would take to build an MLB stadium. "We look forward to discussing this plan with Judge Wolff," Samson said. "It's the first step of a long, interesting process to see if there is a match." Already in weekly communication with the Marlins, Wolff said he would attempt to put the proposal on the November ballot if negotiations with the team pick up speed. Wolff's proposal follows the same plan used to build the AT&T Center for the San Antonio Spurs, which opened in 2002 at a cost of $189 million. Voters in 1999 approved increases in the hotel-occupancy and car-rental taxes to finance the county's $146.5 million share. The Spurs provided the rest of the funding, including $41 million from the arena's naming rights. Wolff said voter approval would be needed to refinance the bonds, pay off the AT&T Center debt early and use new bonds to pay for a baseball stadium. The plan would not incorporate sales or property tax, he said. The Marlins would choose the site for a stadium. In January, the Marlins met with Hialeah city officials to discuss the chances of a new ballpark being built for the team there. The city is the state's fifth most-populous one and is located just a few miles northwest of downtown Miami. Marlins officials also have visited Portland, Ore., Las Vegas and Norfolk, Va. Las Vegas had been considered a front-runner, but it is thought that MLB officials would not want to relocate a team to the gambling capital of the U.S. In November, Samson announced that MLB Commissioner Bud Selig had given the team permission to consider offers from other cities. The announcement came after years of negotiations between the team, the city of Miami and Miami-Dade County to finance a new stadium. The Marlins requested a retractable-roof stadium at the site of the Orange Bowl, but could not come to an agreement on the funding. There were also reports that Miami Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga, who originally owned the Marlins before selling the team in 1997, had offered land and money to the financially strapped team to build a new ballpark on the property next to Dolphins Stadium, but that offer no longer appears to be on the table. Samson has said he hopes the team can remain in South Florida. Marlins officials have been eager to get a stadium of their own. The team has shared a stadium with the Dolphins since the franchise began play in 1993. The Marlins won the World Series in 1997 and 2003. This doesn't look good at ALL. And you know what bothers me the most...they're already in WEEKLY COMMUNICATIONS with each other. Enjoy them, Das. This is Nelson Wolff's wet dream come true. I love how they mentioned that the county in which San Antonio resides...just come out and say it. Damn. I still say I'll believe it when I see it. It would all depend on how it is presented to the people by and large.
March 3, 200620 yr Author My quick Internet search found that San Antonio is the #30 TV market compared to Miami which I saw at #15 but that didn't include Broward and Palm Beach. I can be dead wrong, but I just don't see it happening. As I said elsewhere, Yes SA is #37 TV market but when you combine with the Austin, they are right there with Orlando in size. People would come up from Austin as it's only a 90 minute drive. When I was at UT I drove to SA for Spur games, USFL and concerts. Now am I concerned? No!. They can come to a financing deal, have the bologna sandwiches packed for the trip and still have a last minute deal done here. How many times has that happened? I know of several.
March 3, 200620 yr My quick Internet search found that San Antonio is the #30 TV market compared to Miami which I saw at #15 but that didn't include Broward and Palm Beach. I can be dead wrong, but I just don't see it happening. As I said elsewhere, Yes SA is #37 TV market but when you combine with the Austin, they are right there with Orlando in size. People would come up from Austin as it's only a 90 minute drive. When I was at UT I drove to SA for Spur games, USFL and concerts. Now am I concerned? No!. They can come to a financing deal, have the bologna sandwiches packed for the trip and still have a last minute deal done here. How many times has that happened? I know of several. I doubt people would constantly drive 90 min or more to see games. Maybe every once in a while, but not that often.
March 3, 200620 yr How conservative is the county we're talking about? You'd have to assume that the county is going to be asking tax payers to foot a sizeable portion of the bill...that could be the killing (and don't even get me started on not being able to do what should be done for $300 mil). Also, I love how Samson has said that South Florida is the #1 choice for this franchise yet they've yet to even give this a chance in front of both the tax-payers of South Florida and the State Legislature in Tally-town...what a slimey piece of sh*t.
March 3, 200620 yr How conservative is the county we're talking about? You'd have to assume that the county is going to be asking tax payers to foot a sizeable portion of the bill...that could be the killing (and don't even get me started on not being able to do what should be done for $300 mil). Also, I love how Samson has said that South Florida is the #1 choice for this franchise yet they've yet to even give this a chance in front of both the tax-payers of South Florida and the State Legislature in Tally-town...what a slimey piece of sh*t. Well... Samson doesnt control what goes on the ballot... And hasnt he worked to no avail on the state legislature? I'm just saying. And are we talking about San Antonio and whether or not its conservative? Its hard to say, the Democratic interests in San Antonio used to be huge. Not so much anymore, but the city has a track record of approving stuff that doesnt cost them anything, as long as its actually proposed correctly.
March 3, 200620 yr Its hard to say, the Democratic interests in San Antonio used to be huge. Not so much anymore, but the city has a track record of approving stuff that doesnt cost them anything, as long as its actually proposed correctly. So you're saying it's no better than a coin-flip. At least that's some-what reassuring.
March 3, 200620 yr Damn them. This proposal seems to have some teeth, perhaps Loria's strong arm tactics are going to work after all. If only a move was made here to totally squash this prostitution.
March 3, 200620 yr I'm worried about SA. I think we're underestimating them as a threat. I would really miss MLB in general if it were to leave.....even if the Marlins gut the team further. I love to watch great players from other teams too.....Albert Pujols, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey and so on. I will truly be hurt if they leave. I'm also concerned about a report in the Daily Herald (a Chicago newspaper) that is reporting that Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera will be traded in July if not before....to save even more money.......unbelievable.
March 3, 200620 yr I'm worried about SA. I think we're underestimating them as a threat. I would really miss MLB in general if it were to leave.....even if the Marlins gut the team further. I love to watch great players from other teams too.....Albert Pujols, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey and so on. I will truly be hurt if they leave. I'm also concerned about a report in the Daily Herald (a Chicago newspaper) that is reporting that Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera will be traded in July if not before....to save even more money.......unbelievable. dont believe the last part. the cost of keeping those two isnt that prohibitive.
March 3, 200620 yr With Cabrera getting about 5 mil next year......and who knows about the D-Train.......no one will be coming to the games, so why would they keep them?
March 3, 200620 yr With Cabrera getting about 5 mil next year......and who knows about the D-Train.......no one will be coming to the games, so why would they keep them? because they have to have something to sell to a prospective suitor.
March 3, 200620 yr If the Marlins keep fishing with this bait and get little to no bites...do they keep fishing?
March 3, 200620 yr I'm so sick of Samson's we want to stay in South Florida crap. It's been a month since you spoke to the city of Hialeah. It's been a month since you said the team was going to unveil a campaign to get the fans involved. Stop with the God damn lies and make your intentions known. I'm so sick of this sh*t. I'm not going to give one f***ing dime to this franchise until a stadium deal in Miami is worked out. We're dealing with the slimiest of all the owners in sports. Loria and Samson should just drop dead. Do us all a favor.
March 3, 200620 yr The Marlins keep looking for a handout and keep having doors slammed. Do they think Bexar County can pay for most of the new ballpark? Bexar will expect the Marlins to put in money, and not in rent either. The cage door is open, as it has been for a while now. The teal birdie can fly out at anytime.
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