May 22, 200620 yr Everyday, the same pile of fraudulent comments and half truths, over and over and over and over and over. Miguel Cabrera is NOT leading the team in BA. Ramirez is. If you were actually a fan instead of someone who appears to be here to fuel lies, you'd know that. Aren't you the guy who claims he's been a season ticket holder at UM for thirty years and has attended over 300 Marlins games? Sure :thumbdown As was explained to you yesterday, over the next three years Miguel Cabrera will make (whether in a Marlins uniform or not) twice what what Tracy's going to get. The last guy on the face of the planet Miguel Cabrera is worried about matching up with is Chad Tracy, but you're back again with the same pile of crap. I really bug you, and it feels fun :lol By the way, the stuff about Chad Tracy and Miguel not being happy is the truth. Boog has even commented about it on his show.
May 22, 200620 yr i think it is crazy for you guys to say "trade cabrera" because when pierre,beckett,delgado, etc. was traded during the off season everyone went nuts. i think we should consider ourself lucky to have cabrera and the d-train on this team because at least some teams still think we are a threat with dontrelle on the mound and cabs at the plate. if cabrera did get traded, i think people would be really upset. its like the saying: you don't really know what you got until its gone. hes prob. one of the best hitters, and people keep saying negative stuff about him but why cant he get a clean slate? stop going back to last year because you are all saying the same stuff "he has a bad attitude" well.. i just read an article where he seemed pretty happy playing pranks on hanley ramirez. and if dontrelle got traded, i think everyone would be heartbroken.
May 22, 200620 yr Author Heywood don't be an idiot. Cabrera makes that much because that's what young players make. As his arbitration years hit, he'll make a bundle and he knows it. By the time he reaches free agency he'll sign the kind of contract that players dream about. Please don't shed any tears for Miguel Cabrera. I am so tired of people feeling bad for Dontrelle and Cabrera because they have to play on a losing team. :boo-woo As if somehow all good players should be on playoff-bound teams, and all the bad players in the league should bind together & join the 5 or 6 crappy teams. How dare the Marlins not trade Willis and Cabrera to the Mets or Yankees or Red Sox! The audacity of them to keep those 2 stars handcuffed to a losing team! WELCOME TO THE MAJOR LEAGUES. You don't get to be on good teams every season.
May 22, 200620 yr Heywood don't be an idiot. Cabrera makes that much because that's what young players make. As his arbitration years hit, he'll make a bundle and he knows it. By the time he reaches free agency he'll sign the kind of contract that players dream about. Please don't shed any tears for Miguel Cabrera. I am so tired of people feeling bad for Dontrelle and Cabrera because they have to play on a losing team. :boo-woo As if somehow all good players should be on playoff-bound teams, and all the bad players in the league should bind together & join the 5 or 6 crappy teams. How dare the Marlins not trade Willis and Cabrera to the Mets or Yankees or Red Sox! The audacity of them to keep those 2 stars handcuffed to a losing team! WELCOME TO THE MAJOR LEAGUES. You don't get to be on good teams every season. yay...an intelligent post...couldnt have said it better myself...heywood...how often do you think ted williams wanted to be traded from the red sox? yeah...believe it or not, some people never play on a winner, thats life, thats baseball
May 23, 200620 yr yay...an intelligent post...couldnt have said it better myself...heywood...how often do you think ted williams wanted to be traded from the red sox? yeah...believe it or not, some people never play on a winner, thats life, thats baseball Hotcorner & Jimmy, who said I wanted him traded period ? I don't want him traded, but this FO has shown it will trade anyone. All I am saying is maybe Cabrera is not best suited for this kind of pressure. This is the kind of team that he will not excel with. Just think how he would hit in front of Pujols ? He's already hitting the ball well, but with that protection OMFG ! I just would put a $ 20 on him being traded before the deadline. It really has NOTHING to do with Miggy, it has all to do with the FO. Same goes with D-Train. No I don't want him traded, but do I think he will be ? YES.
May 23, 200620 yr Hotcorner & Jimmy, who said I wanted him traded period ? You did. "I say cut your losses now, and get what you can for him." - Heywood Jablome, May 22, 2006 http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...dpost&p=1156425
May 23, 200620 yr Author Hotcorner & Jimmy, who said I wanted him traded period ? You did. "I say cut your losses now, and get what you can for him." - Heywood Jablome, May 22, 2006 http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...dpost&p=1156425ouch. :lol Hotcorner & Jimmy, who said I wanted him traded period ? I don't want him traded, but this FO has shown it will trade anyone. All I am saying is maybe Cabrera is not best suited for this kind of pressure. This is the kind of team that he will not excel with. Just think how he would hit in front of Pujols ? He's already hitting the ball well, but with that protection OMFG ! "Just think how he would hit in front of Pujols?" WHAT? What the hell are you talking about? Who the hell cares how he'd hit in front of Pujols? Are you a fan of the Marlins or the Cardinals? Sounds like you're more a fan of Cabrera than the Marlins. "Maybe he's not suited for this kind of pressure." How would you know? Yeah he's having a really terrible season. That .321 average is a mess. Heywood you're too much...
May 23, 200620 yr I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2 Keep dreaming. I know deep down inside you want the FO to trade Cabrerra but its not gonna happen. :angel I wish we could get a team to surround Cabrera and bring out the best in him. He seems to be a moody type of player, one that needs to be prodded to get the best out of him. Dontrelle is the opposite, he can self-motivate and is a real team leader, Miggy is just not that type. Look at the way he sulked last year, and then look at his off-season shape he got into -- like he didn't care and added those 10-15 extra lbs. This season his errors, just lazy and not acceptable. Had he not been Miggy, but some other schmoe with a .240 BA you guys would have been calling for his head and would be complaining your heads off about his dismal defense. I say cut your losses now, and get what you can for him. Its a loss of a potential superstar, but if he doesn't have the mental fortitude to go through this process we are going through now, get what you can for him now, and not wait for this year & next year for his bat to follow his lazy defense. Again... Cabrera's doing poorly? He's hitting about the same average with a higher OPS this year than last. And helping more the defense than he ever did in the outfield where he routinely misplayed outs into singles and singles into doubles.
May 23, 200620 yr all i know is that one of our young arms needs to emerge at some point this season as a potential top of the line closer. i dont really give a damn whom. and if some develop as good middle relievers then thats bonus!
May 23, 200620 yr Hotcorner & Jimmy, who said I wanted him traded period ? You did. "I say cut your losses now, and get what you can for him." - Heywood Jablome, May 22, 2006 http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...dpost&p=1156425 ouch. :lol There is a difference between want and what is best for the franchise. I want him to stay, but I look at it fatalistically -- if he stays then its great, and if he goes I've already been ready for it. I still say if he's not going to be here in the longrun, get him out of here and bring in a schmoe to play until we have the new stadium, or the Marlins are gone to another city. Hotcorner & Jimmy, who said I wanted him traded period ? I don't want him traded, but this FO has shown it will trade anyone. All I am saying is maybe Cabrera is not best suited for this kind of pressure. This is the kind of team that he will not excel with. Just think how he would hit in front of Pujols ? He's already hitting the ball well, but with that protection OMFG ! "Just think how he would hit in front of Pujols?" WHAT? What the hell are you talking about? Who the hell cares how he'd hit in front of Pujols? Are you a fan of the Marlins or the Cardinals? Sounds like you're more a fan of Cabrera than the Marlins. "Maybe he's not suited for this kind of pressure." How would you know? Yeah he's having a really terrible season. That .321 average is a mess. Heywood you're too much... Of course I'm a Marlins fan, but lets be serious. He's not going to be here in 2 years, he more than likely will be gone by July 31st, so why act like he'll be a Marlin ? And as for good / bad year well he's hitting the ball, but where are the HR's ? Most "big bats" already have 10+, he's lagging behind. Guess the 3rd base on the Marlins is cursed again this year. He's on pace to hit 22 HR's this year well below the 33 he hit last year and in 2004. I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2 Keep dreaming. I know deep down inside you want the FO to trade Cabrerra but its not gonna happen. :angel I wish we could get a team to surround Cabrera and bring out the best in him. He seems to be a moody type of player, one that needs to be prodded to get the best out of him. Dontrelle is the opposite, he can self-motivate and is a real team leader, Miggy is just not that type. Look at the way he sulked last year, and then look at his off-season shape he got into -- like he didn't care and added those 10-15 extra lbs. This season his errors, just lazy and not acceptable. Had he not been Miggy, but some other schmoe with a .240 BA you guys would have been calling for his head and would be complaining your heads off about his dismal defense. I say cut your losses now, and get what you can for him. Its a loss of a potential superstar, but if he doesn't have the mental fortitude to go through this process we are going through now, get what you can for him now, and not wait for this year & next year for his bat to follow his lazy defense. Again... Cabrera's doing poorly? He's hitting about the same average with a higher OPS this year than last. And helping more the defense than he ever did in the outfield where he routinely misplayed outs into singles and singles into doubles. His HR's are lagging behind his pace of both 2004 and 2005. Hotcorner & Jimmy, who said I wanted him traded period ? You did. "I say cut your losses now, and get what you can for him." - Heywood Jablome, May 22, 2006 http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...dpost&p=1156425 Again its not what I want, but what I see as going to happen. I wish they'd just go ahead and do it now. This FO could care less about the team on the field right now, so what would it matter ?
May 23, 200620 yr Gee, that's not what you said. Everyday a new fabrication, a new mistruth, and everyday you get caught. You said what you said, no getting around it. Right out of the Joe Arriola playbook.
May 24, 200620 yr Gee, that's not what you said. Everyday a new fabrication, a new mistruth, and everyday you get caught. You said what you said, no getting around it. Right out of the Joe Arriola playbook. 2003 you believe if you say that about me enough times it will become the truth. The fact is I never said I WANTED them to trade him, I said I thought they SHOULD. Just go ahead and do it now, and spare us the pain of doing it just as he makes his big $$$.
May 24, 200620 yr Lol, it is the truth. You make stuff up, you get caught, you say "oh, I really didn't mean it". You lie, you get caught in a lie and then you say "oh, I really didn't mean it." You claim to have been a baseball fan for thirty+ years and have seen 300 Marlins games but you don't know draft picks can't be traded or even the fundamentals of the game Allow me to quote you again in regards to Miguel Cabrera, "I say cut your losses now, and get what you can for him." Sure sounds like you want him traded to me and everyone else here. Same old same old every day.
May 24, 200620 yr Gee, that's not what you said. Everyday a new fabrication, a new mistruth, and everyday you get caught. You said what you said, no getting around it. Right out of the Joe Arriola playbook. 2003 you believe if you say that about me enough times it will become the truth. The fact is I never said I WANTED them to trade him, I said I thought they SHOULD. Just go ahead and do it now, and spare us the pain of doing it just as he makes his big $$$. :ban
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