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Injury updates: A couple of Marlins on the disabled list spent Sunday afternoon playing in a rehab assignment for Class A Jupiter in Dunedin.

 

Outfielder Jeremy Hermida and reliever Franklyn German are both close to coming off the DL. After playing on Sunday, they will fly with the team from Tampa to South Florida.

 

According to Girardi, it is likely that Hermida will be activated on Monday, when the Marlins face the Cubs at Dolphin Stadium. The team has been cautious with the rookie right fielder, who has been on the DL since April 17 with a strained right hip flexor.

 

German, eligible to come off the DL on Friday, is out with shoulder tendinitis. The right-hander likely will be activated in time to face the Mets on Friday.

 

Reliever Carlos Martinez, on the disabled list since April 17 with a right elbow strain, will throw live batting practice on Monday in South Florida. If that goes well, a couple of rehab assignments are likely. Girardi said that Martinez will likely return in early June.

 

Closing the deal: Though Joe Borowski has the most experience and is 5-for-6 in save chances, Girardi said that the team will give some other young relievers a shot at closing.

 

Borowski was unable to close out the Rays in a loss on Friday, and rookie Logan Kensing was given a shot to protect the lead in the ninth inning on Saturday. Kensing surrendered a walk-off two-run homer to Russell Branyan.

 

Girardi said that Borowski will still get save chances, but so will the youngsters.

 

"Obviously, you'd like to go with one closer," said Girardi. "Joe's saved five of six, and I'm not going to take that away from him."

 

Girardi added that the team is looking for potential closer candidates.

 

"The job here is to win games, but part of it is to teach, and to expand guys' roles and see how much they can mature in one year," he said. "They're going to have some chances. Joe's going to get a lot of chances, too, but they're going to have some chances. I'd love to say I'd go with one closer, but our bullpen doesn't present us with that, just because of the age factor, and the experience factor."

 

Willis rumors: Dealing with trade rumors is nothing new for the Marlins. With the team losing, there is a great deal of speculation that Dontrelle Willis will be traded by the July 31 deadline.

 

But even as those rumors circulate nationally, indications from around the club are that the two-time All-Star is going nowhere.

 

Though the team makes no secret that it will entertain the idea of trading just about anyone, it would take an incredibly tempting offer to move Willis.

 

The franchise is in the process of building the team back up. This year the Marlins are evaluating a lot of young talent, and taking their lumps along the way.

 

But that doesn't mean they are on the verge of moving their ace.

 

So as trade talks come out of such places as New York, there is little buzz in the clubhouse that Willis will be dealt. He is the ace of a young staff, and a primary leader on the team.

 

Based on how the Marlins make deals, to move any frontline pitcher, they would want frontline pitching in return. Because of that, it makes it unlikely that another team will meet the demands for a marquee left-hander who is just 24 years old and not eligible for free agency until after the 2009 season.

 

Hanley & Hermida back today, + Carlos back in early June? :thumbup

 

As far as trying out others for the closer role, good luck with what you're picking from Joe...

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

That is a good article and refreshing.

once the kid comes back i would love to see Girardi give Martinez a shot at the closing role...i think the kid has the flare for it and the stuff...but i know he already made a huge jump from A ball to the bigs but what do we have to lose???

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

 

 

:plain :plain :plain

 

If Willis is practically untouchable, what makes you think Cabrera isn't? Use some logic.

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

 

 

:plain :plain :plain

 

If Willis is practically untouchable, what makes you think Cabrera isn't? Use some logic.

 

Because he wasn't mentioned. Use your logic and instincts. Don't be so gullible and believe all you hear from the Marlins FO. Didn't they assure Delgado he wouldn't be traded and then shipped his a** off as soon as they could ?

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

 

 

 

Keep dreaming. I know deep down inside you want the FO to trade Cabrerra but its not gonna happen.

 

:angel

 

once the kid comes back i would love to see Girardi give Martinez a shot at the closing role...i think the kid has the flare for it and the stuff...but i know he already made a huge jump from A ball to the bigs but what do we have to lose???

 

 

 

Totally agreed. Carlos has that flair about him that closers need. Its at least worth a shot.

more notes from today:

 

The Marlins likely will start rookie shortstop Hanley Ramirez, who has been resting a strained left shoulder for the past five days.

 

Before the game, manager Joe Girardi will meet with general manager Admin Beinfest to determine whether to activate rookie Jeremy Hermida off the disabled list on Monday or Tuesday.

...Before the game, manager Joe Girardi will meet with general manager Admin Beinfest to determine whether to activate rookie Jeremy Hermida off the disabled list on Monday or Tuesday.

 

Wanna bet Hermida's return won't be the only thing discussed?

...Before the game, manager Joe Girardi will meet with general manager Admin Beinfest to determine whether to activate rookie Jeremy Hermida off the disabled list on Monday or Tuesday.

 

Wanna bet Hermida's return won't be the only thing discussed?

 

 

"So how many more relievers you want us to call up?"

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

 

 

 

I think the only reason people assume Willis is giong is because he already makes over 4 million and that number will continue to rise. Correct me if im wrong but I think Cabrera still makes well under a million so there is really no reason from a payroll standpoint to get rid of him.

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

 

 

 

Keep dreaming. I know deep down inside you want the FO to trade Cabrerra but its not gonna happen.

 

:angel

 

 

I wish we could get a team to surround Cabrera and bring out the best in him. He seems to be a moody type of player, one that needs to be prodded to get the best out of him. Dontrelle is the opposite, he can self-motivate and is a real team leader, Miggy is just not that type. Look at the way he sulked last year, and then look at his off-season shape he got into -- like he didn't care and added those 10-15 extra lbs. This season his errors, just lazy and not acceptable. Had he not been Miggy, but some other schmoe with a .240 BA you guys would have been calling for his head and would be complaining your heads off about his dismal defense.

 

I say cut your losses now, and get what you can for him. Its a loss of a potential superstar, but if he doesn't have the mental fortitude to go through this process we are going through now, get what you can for him now, and not wait for this year & next year for his bat to follow his lazy defense.

 

People here think this is a one-year process. If and that is a big if, because I am not totally convinced, the FO is building a team for the new stadium, don't expect much difference for next year or in 2008. We should have basically the same set of characters again next year, but with a few changes. If they can get someone cheaper than Helms, Herges and Boworski to fill those roles they will. The new stadium won't be open until the 2009 season and possibly the 2010 season.

 

The FO may want to make a splash when the new stadium opens and try to buy some middle level stars to help fill the seats, to go along with whatever picthers (prolly Johsnon and Willis if we keep him) and MAYBE Ramierez (I guess he isn't eligible for arbitration til after 2009 right ?).

 

Take the blinders off folks and see the reality. We are gonna suck this year, next year and most probably in 2008.

4 million of a 15 million payroll is still very little really and honestly.

 

I think Willis will go if they get an offer that they like alot.

 

most likely they wont though.

 

I dont see LAD and LAA selling off the farm for him. And I dont think anyone else has the prospects to get him except Tampa Bay. Whom I would love to offer Delmon Young + Gomes + a pitcher for him. But I dont see it happening

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

 

 

 

I think the only reason people assume Willis is giong is because he already makes over 4 million and that number will continue to rise. Correct me if im wrong but I think Cabrera still makes well under a million so there is really no reason from a payroll standpoint to get rid of him.

 

Because he makes the money NEXT YEAR. Get rid of him now, before he makes the cash that will push the payroll over $ 20 million.

 

For some reason, even though they came up at the same time, Willis got arby this year, but Cabrera isn't eligible until next year.

Maybe they didnt mention Cabrera because the article is focusing on teams that need to bulk up their pitching?

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

 

I think Cabrera's even more untouchable than Dontrelle. (if we can even use the term "untouchable" with this team)

 

I think given the option of the two, they'd rather keep Cabrera. Since day 1 he's been an elite-level talent. Dontrelle could still turn out to be just a "good" starting pitcher, rather than the Cy Young version we saw last season, not to mention the injury risk you always take with pitchers.

 

That's not a knock on Dontrelle by the way, I hope he never goes anywhere. Just saying that if I have to break the bank on a player & can only afford one of them, I'm taking Cabrera.

...Before the game, manager Joe Girardi will meet with general manager Admin Beinfest to determine whether to activate rookie Jeremy Hermida off the disabled list on Monday or Tuesday.

 

Wanna bet Hermida's return won't be the only thing discussed?

 

 

"So how many more relievers you want us to call up?"

 

:lol We can only hope.

great article and i still believe Cabrera or Willis do NOT get traded

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

 

I think Cabrera's even more untouchable than Dontrelle. (if we can even use the term "untouchable" with this team)

 

I think given the option of the two, they'd rather keep Cabrera. Since day 1 he's been an elite-level talent. Dontrelle could still turn out to be just a "good" starting pitcher, rather than the Cy Young version we saw last season, not to mention the injury risk you always take with pitchers.

 

That's not a knock on Dontrelle by the way, I hope he never goes anywhere. Just saying that if I have to break the bank on a player & can only afford one of them, I'm taking Cabrera.

 

I totally agree with everything you said...And I think the reason they arent meantioning Cabrera is because there havent really been any rumors about Cabs being traded like there have been with Dontrelle.

I think hermida and Hanely coming back will be huge for the lineup.

 

Hermida is one of the few playes on the team with a low strike out ratio. Which is needed. We are a K waiting to happen.

 

Hanely just is the stuff to keep our lineups going.

If they both come back today it will be a fun game to watch. Lineup finally intact & Nolasco's pitch cap should be higher than 70-something this time. Hopefully he'll be psyched to pitch against the organization that traded him. And remember he pitched pretty well last time out, it was only air-mailing a throw for what would've been a sure double-play that hurt him.

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

 

 

 

Keep dreaming. I know deep down inside you want the FO to trade Cabrerra but its not gonna happen.

 

:angel

 

 

I wish we could get a team to surround Cabrera and bring out the best in him. He seems to be a moody type of player, one that needs to be prodded to get the best out of him. Dontrelle is the opposite, he can self-motivate and is a real team leader, Miggy is just not that type. Look at the way he sulked last year, and then look at his off-season shape he got into -- like he didn't care and added those 10-15 extra lbs. This season his errors, just lazy and not acceptable. Had he not been Miggy, but some other schmoe with a .240 BA you guys would have been calling for his head and would be complaining your heads off about his dismal defense.

 

I say cut your losses now, and get what you can for him. Its a loss of a potential superstar, but if he doesn't have the mental fortitude to go through this process we are going through now, get what you can for him now, and not wait for this year & next year for his bat to follow his lazy defense.

 

People here think this is a one-year process. If and that is a big if, because I am not totally convinced, the FO is building a team for the new stadium, don't expect much difference for next year or in 2008. We should have basically the same set of characters again next year, but with a few changes. If they can get someone cheaper than Helms, Herges and Boworski to fill those roles they will. The new stadium won't be open until the 2009 season and possibly the 2010 season.

 

The FO may want to make a splash when the new stadium opens and try to buy some middle level stars to help fill the seats, to go along with whatever picthers (prolly Johsnon and Willis if we keep him) and MAYBE Ramierez (I guess he isn't eligible for arbitration til after 2009 right ?).

 

Take the blinders off folks and see the reality. We are gonna suck this year, next year and most probably in 2008.

There isn't any evidence that Cabs is moody or a bad clubhouse presence...What he does day in and day out is play hard keep his mouth shut and be the reliable presence the team looks to for offense and production. I know people get on him because he has gained weight also he has made some errors but David Wright and Cabs are the 2 best young 3rd basemens in the League (look how many error Wright has right now!) with Blalock just slightly behind them. We need to give Miguel his props and We haven't done it enough I get the feeling that the FO will never ever trade Cabrera. He is the cornerstone of our offense. Dontrelle will give u 35-40 starts but Miguel Cabrera will give you 162 games

There isn't any evidence that Cabs is moody or a bad clubhouse presence...What he does day in and day out is play hard keep his mouth shut and be the reliable presence the team looks to for offense and production. I know people get on him because he has gained weight also he has made some errors but David Wright and Cabs are the 2 best young 3rd basemens in the League (look how many error Wright has right now!) with Blalock just slightly behind them. We need to give Miguel his props and We haven't done it enough I get the feeling that the FO will never ever trade Cabrera. He is the cornerstone of our offense. Dontrelle will give u 35-40 starts but Miguel Cabrera will give you 162 games

 

 

Ahhh yes there is edvidence. Last year he was criticized by Jack McKeon himself ! For being late to meetings and the ballpark -- he was suspended for a game because he even missed a plane trip last year. It was siad he was complaining and grousing because he was playing hard and not getting paid even close to what others on the team made.

 

I mean I can see why he would -- he has two All-Star trips, leads the team in BA and most likely RBI (that could be someone else but he's one of the top ones) and makes $ 427,000. Yet Wes Helms is making $ 800,000 and is basically his backup. And Chad Tracy 3rd baseman of the Diamondbacks just recieved a contract for $ 13.25 million for 3 years -- starting next year, avoiding arbititration, and even got a $ 1,000,000 signing bonus for this year.

 

I would PO'd too. He works for this year for peanuts because of the crappy FO we have. I'd tell my agent to get me the hell out of this mess when it comes time to be a FA.

There isn't any evidence that Cabs is moody or a bad clubhouse presence...What he does day in and day out is play hard keep his mouth shut and be the reliable presence the team looks to for offense and production. I know people get on him because he has gained weight also he has made some errors but David Wright and Cabs are the 2 best young 3rd basemens in the League (look how many error Wright has right now!) with Blalock just slightly behind them. We need to give Miguel his props and We haven't done it enough I get the feeling that the FO will never ever trade Cabrera. He is the cornerstone of our offense. Dontrelle will give u 35-40 starts but Miguel Cabrera will give you 162 games

 

 

Ahhh yes there is edvidence. Last year he was criticized by Jack McKeon himself ! For being late to meetings and the ballpark -- he was suspended for a game because he even missed a plane trip last year. It was siad he was complaining and grousing because he was playing hard and not getting paid even close to what others on the team made.

 

I mean I can see why he would -- he has two All-Star trips, leads the team in BA and most likely RBI (that could be someone else but he's one of the top ones) and makes $ 427,000. Yet Wes Helms is making $ 800,000 and is basically his backup. And Chad Tracy 3rd baseman of the Diamondbacks just recieved a contract for $ 13.25 million for 3 years -- starting next year, avoiding arbititration, and even got a $ 1,000,000 signing bonus for this year.

 

I would PO'd too. He works for this year for peanuts because of the crappy FO we have. I'd tell my agent to get me the hell out of this mess when it comes time to be a FA.

Everyday, the same pile of fraudulent comments and half truths, over and over and over and over and over.

 

Miguel Cabrera is NOT leading the team in BA. Ramirez is.

 

If you were actually a fan instead of someone who appears to be here to fuel lies, you'd know that. Aren't you the guy who claims he's been a season ticket holder at UM for thirty years and has attended over 300 Marlins games?

 

Sure :thumbdown

 

As was explained to you yesterday, over the next three years Miguel Cabrera will make (whether in a Marlins uniform or not) twice what what Tracy's going to get.

 

The last guy on the face of the planet Miguel Cabrera is worried about matching up with is Chad Tracy, but you're back again with the same pile of crap.

I still believe someone will make an offer the Marlins can't turn down by the All-Star break for Cabrera. If you notice they only talked about Willis as "untouchable" or "practically untouchable". No mention of Cabrera. :mischief2

 

Maybe because there arent any rumors about Cabrera?