September 20, 200619 yr I'm sure this is going to be the first of many of these types of threads over the coming months. C: Olivo 1B: Jacobs 2B: Uggla SS: HanRam 3B: Cabrera RF: Hermida CF: Free Agent? LF: Hammer SP1: D-Train SP2: Johnson SP3: Olsen SP4: Sanchez SP5: Petit?
September 20, 200619 yr C: Olivo 1B: Willingham 2B: Uggla SS: Hanley 3B: Cabrera LF/CF: Anyone's guess RF: Hermida Dontrelle, JJ, Olsen, Sanchez, Petit
September 20, 200619 yr Author C: Olivo 1B: Willingham 2B: Uggla SS: Hanley 3B: Cabrera LF/CF: Anyone's guess RF: Hermida Dontrelle, JJ, Olsen, Sanchez, Petit No Jacobs??
September 20, 200619 yr C: Olivo 1st: Jacobs or Helms (depending on pitcher) 2nd: Uggla 3rd: Cabrera SS: Ramirez LF: Willingham CF: ? RF: Hermida 1. Willis 2. Johnson 3. Olsen 4. Sanchez 5. Pinto
September 20, 200619 yr C: Olivo 1B: Willingham 2B: Uggla SS: Hanley 3B: Cabrera LF/CF: Anyone's guess RF: Hermida Dontrelle, JJ, Olsen, Sanchez, Petit :whistle :whistle Ill hold off for a little :mischief2
September 20, 200619 yr C: Olivo 1B: Willingham 2B: Uggla SS: Hanley 3B: Cabrera LF/CF: Anyone's guess RF: Hermida Dontrelle, JJ, Olsen, Sanchez, Petit No Jacobs?? Willingham has more value at first than in left. Willingham has more value to the team than Jacobs. Hence, I see Jacobs as an odd man out and potential trade-bait along with Nolasco for an outfielder.
September 20, 200619 yr C: Olivo 1B: Willingham 2B: Uggla SS: Hanley 3B: Cabrera LF/CF: Anyone's guess RF: Hermida Dontrelle, JJ, Olsen, Sanchez, Petit No Jacobs?? Willingham has more value at first than in left. Willingham has more value to the team than Jacobs. Hence, I see Jacobs as an odd man out and potential trade-bait along with Nolasco for an outfielder. I think that's a little far-fetched... We have plenty of trade bait without giving up our everyday first baseman with loads of potential.
September 20, 200619 yr I'm sure this is going to be the first of many of these types of threads over the coming months. C: Olivo 1B: Jacobs 2B: Uggla SS: HanRam 3B: Cabrera RF: Hermida CF: Free Agent? LF: Hammer SP1: D-Train SP2: Johnson SP3: Olsen SP4: Sanchez SP5: Petit? same as yours except Nolasco instead of Petit. and I predict Girardi will be there as well.
September 20, 200619 yr C: Olivo 1B: Willingham 2B: Uggla SS: Hanley 3B: Cabrera LF/CF: Anyone's guess RF: Hermida Dontrelle, JJ, Olsen, Sanchez, Petit No Jacobs?? Willingham has more value at first than in left. Willingham has more value to the team than Jacobs. Hence, I see Jacobs as an odd man out and potential trade-bait along with Nolasco for an outfielder. I think that's a little far-fetched... We have plenty of trade bait without giving up our everyday first baseman with loads of potential. Have to give to get.
September 20, 200619 yr Our 2007 opening day centerfielder is not within our organization yet unless Campusano or De Arza have an incredible off-season and spring...Kool-Aid will be starting CF in triple A. Willy should play winterball he has improved defensively as an outfielder but he can be much better. Our rotation is set except the 5th spot which would require an extraordinary showing by someone in the spring to move a healthy Nolasco to the Bullpen. Hermida will reclaim his spot in RF.
September 20, 200619 yr CF David Samson SS Hanley 2B Uggla 3B Cabrera 1B Jacobs LF Willingham RF Hermida C Olivo P That's why he's been training. Why have the salary of two guys when you can have one? The first player/president in the league. With his short stature (thus minuscue strikezone) he will be draw oodles of walks and be one of the greatest walk machines in baseball history. Rotation: Willis Nolasco Olsen Johnson Sanchez
September 20, 200619 yr C: Olivo 1B: Jacobs or Helms 2B: Uggla SS: Ramirez 3B- Cabrera LF: Willingham CF: Crawford :mischief ... We can dream right? RF: Hermida - Hopefully he is 100% healthy Willis, Anibal, Johnson, Olsen and Nolasco. I fell in love with this rotation and I want it for next year. Edit: I just read something about Nolasco in the pen. It could work if some other starter steps up. Noly could be out 7th inning guy.
September 20, 200619 yr Awesome thread Accord C - Olivo 1B - Jacobs / Helms Agree with Wild Card on this 2B - Uggla SS - Ramirez 3B - Cabrera LF - Willingham CF - BRING US SOMEONE FAST AND GOOD LOL RF - Hermida Starting Rotation : Willis, Johnson, Olsen, Sanchez, Nolasco or Petit The bullpen I really can't figure out only ppl I would want is Tank, Pinto, Nolasco with everyone else pretty much being taken out and doing a overhaul for a better closer and a stronger long relief and 6th inning man. The CF just needs to be someone who can go and get them, we got the trade bait for it, so we can pick up a proven prospect or a proven major leaguer that wont command much. Maybe even one of those "Ressurect My Career" type players. Bring back Helms off the Bench and keep protecting Jacobs because when he does seem to slump it may take awhile.
September 20, 200619 yr My assumptions are Loria is gauranteed a stadium and increased payroll to approximately $30M. LF Crawford * 2B Uggla RF Hermida 3B Cabrera 1B Jacobs CF Cameron ** 2B Uggla CA Olivo Rotation: 1. Willis 2. Sanchez 3. Olsen 4. Johnson 5. Pinto Bullpen: Closer: Tankersley Setup: Brian Meadows *** Setup: Alan Embree **** LH Specialist: Steve Kline ***** MR: Herges MR: Jose Garcia LR: Mitre (Bowyer, Resop, Messenger and others in the mix) * Willingham, Nolasco & Petit to the Rays for Carl Crawford - I think the Rays can be persuaded to move Crawford with a solid bat(DH/OF) and two people that could probably step right into the rotation. Crawford Contract: 07:$4M, 08:$5.25M, 09:$8.25M club option ($2.5M buyout), 10:$10M club **Camerson - Free Agent 06:$6M, 07:$7M club option ($0.5M buyout) - Padres may pick up his option but if not he can be had for probably around 2yrs/$12-$13M ***Brian Meadows REC 3-6 | SV 8 | ERA 5.40 | WHIP 1.58 ****Alan Embree REC 4-3 | SV 0 | ERA 3.38 | WHIP 1.26 *****Steve Kline REC 4-3 | SV 1 | ERA 3.42 | WHIP 1.50 (This trio can be had via FA for approx $5M)
September 20, 200619 yr All I know is that I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Olsen, Nolasco or Johnson weren't on the team next year. Stag5, I'm not sure WHY you would want to give up Willingham with the season he's had. You are basically substituting a 30-100-.850 (.900) OPS guy for another talented outfielder. Defeats the purpose.
September 20, 200619 yr All I know is that I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Olsen, Nolasco or Johnson weren't on the team next year. I'd be quite shocked if Olsen isn't here.
September 20, 200619 yr All I know is that I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Olsen, Nolasco or Johnson weren't on the team next year. I'd be quite shocked if Olsen isn't here. Ya as I discussed with you yesterday, I'd say he's the long shot of the trio. My reasoning for not including Anibal is because if I seem to remember correctly, he won't be arby eligible until a year after those guys, and he's not a Super 2.
September 20, 200619 yr All I know is that I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Olsen, Nolasco or Johnson weren't on the team next year. Stag5, I'm not sure WHY you would want to give up Willingham with the season he's had. You are basically substituting a 30-100-.850 (.900) OPS guy for another talented outfielder. Defeats the purpose. EL, I am a big fan of Willingham but in all honesty he is probably best served in the AL where he can DH more and serve as a 4th/5th OF'er. As for our starting pitchers, we are loaded...and we also have Petit, Pinto, Volstad, etc, etc. We will make trades in the next couple of seasons for depth elsewhere. Carl Crawford is a complete player.
September 20, 200619 yr Knowing the Marlins they will most likely be in discussions with the Rays to try and work out a deal for Crawford if Loria does decide to put a little more money out on the table. I just can't see the Marlins trying to pick up Cameron anytime soon or even at all. I would hate to move Willingham but if it does bring Crawford then I would do it in a heart beat. With that being said if we do aquire him we would need to have CF cemented already with a proven player.
September 20, 200619 yr Knowing the Marlins they will most likely be in discussions with the Rays to try and work out a deal for Crawford if Loria does decide to put a little more money out on the table. I just can't see the Marlins trying to pick up Cameron anytime soon or even at all. I would hate to move Willingham but if it does bring Crawford then I would do it in a heart beat. With that being said if we do aquire him we would need to have CF cemented already with a proven player. Cy, Cameron's age does concern me...if ya wanna change the name fine but my thought it to make sure we have a solid glove out there who can also hit a little. What if Torii Hunter ends up with the BoSox, would Coco Crisp be intriguing? Probably so and he is not too costly.
September 20, 200619 yr Stag5 don't get me wrong I love Mike Cameron I think he can deffinately give us the glove out there in CF with speed and his bat brings power and speed. If the Padres can eat his contract and Marlins can make a move bring him over. If anything thats the type of guy we would need a veteran who can take control of that Outfield and make sure there are no more collisons and dropped outs in the outfield. Torii Hunter would be a dream come true, but just about anyone right now solves the puzzle now.
September 20, 200619 yr Cameron is a FA unless SD picks up Cameron's option @ $7M. They just might do that but then again, maybe not.
September 20, 200619 yr If the Marlins pick up an expensive centerfielder like Cameron or Hunter, I will be very suprised. With Miguel Cabrera's salary set to to explode starting next season and Olivo entering arbitration, the more likely scenario is the Marlins picking up an OF prospect. Hopefully one with a great range and arm, speed plus a solid bat. Not necessarily a bomber ? we already have enough of those? but good contact/eye. If we are going to spend millions on Cabrera, Willis and Olivo I'd rather the Marlins further expand their payroll by getting some quality bullpen arms and re-signing Wes Helms.
September 20, 200619 yr Torii Hunter will be looking at $10-$12MM. Cameron will be 34 years old and if the Padres won't pick up his $7M option no one else will pay him $7M. I figure he gets a 2 year deal for $12-$13M.
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