TSwift25 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 didnt Youk leadoff for the Red Sox this year? Yes, when Francona wasn't being an idiot. I'd much rather have my leadoff man working counts and getting on base then being a speedster who doesn't get on as much but is valued only because he has speed. :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiasco518 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 If Boston will pay for some of Crisp and they dont give up that much to get him I'll take him. Out of the others I'd take Taveras, and lets get serious we arent getting Hunter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsrule Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 i just checked out a free agents list and we could get mike cameron for 6M this year or we could get gary matthews for about 3m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Ball Bunt Machine Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Eventually Hermida is going to become a fine #2 hitter. And just because you do or do not steal bases, doesnt make you any less of a leadoff man. Stolen bases help, sure. Hammer is going to be your starting 1b next year. You can predict it all you want, but until it materializes it shouldn't affect the lineup. Hermida has to earn the spot he was given and failed in at the beginning of the season. I'm sure you predicted he would have a ROY season and Uggla would besent down and back with the DBacks also. Many of us did, but that's not reality. As far as Hammer at 1B...that makes less sense than anything. When Jacobs finally has a healthy ankle next year they aren't going to want to throw away their best Lefty bat. If Hammer was going to play 1B they'd be putting him there now. didnt Youk leadoff for the Red Sox this year? Yes, when Francona wasn't being an idiot. I'd much rather have my leadoff man working counts and getting on base then being a speedster who doesn't get on as much but is valued only because he has speed. Because having a league-leading base stealer leading off hasn't helped the Mets at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Eventually Hermida is going to become a fine #2 hitter. And just because you do or do not steal bases, doesnt make you any less of a leadoff man. Stolen bases help, sure. Hammer is going to be your starting 1b next year. You can predict it all you want, but until it materializes it shouldn't affect the lineup. Hermida has to earn the spot he was given and failed in at the beginning of the season. I'm sure you predicted he would have a ROY season and Uggla would besent down and back with the DBacks also. Many of us did, but that's not reality. As far as Hammer at 1B...that makes less sense than anything. When Jacobs finally has a healthy ankle next year they aren't going to want to throw away their best Lefty bat. If Hammer was going to play 1B they'd be putting him there now. I did think Hermida would be the ROY, and for what its worth, I pegged Uggla for 16 homers as for Hammer at 1b, we'll see :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollyberry Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Maybe we can lure Matt Murton away from the Cubs and make him a CF'er . I thought you liked Josh Johnson What does that have to do with Matt Murton? that's probably what it would take to get him :thumbup Gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Why not Hunter? we are legit contenders for 07, and Hunter is the kind of player that could make a difference I could see the FO making a statement if a stadium deal is reached. Big If, but could happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollyberry Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hammer is going to be your starting 1b next year. For sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hammer is going to be your starting 1b next year. For sure? I really liked Jake. just what Im thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Maybe we can lure Matt Murton away from the Cubs and make him a CF'er . Matt Murton playing CF in that ballpark? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol He can't even play left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelGOT2Rings Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Eventually Hermida is going to become a fine #2 hitter. And just because you do or do not steal bases, doesnt make you any less of a leadoff man. Stolen bases help, sure. Hammer is going to be your starting 1b next year. You can predict it all you want, but until it materializes it shouldn't affect the lineup. Hermida has to earn the spot he was given and failed in at the beginning of the season. I'm sure you predicted he would have a ROY season and Uggla would besent down and back with the DBacks also. Many of us did, but that's not reality. As far as Hammer at 1B...that makes less sense than anything. When Jacobs finally has a healthy ankle next year they aren't going to want to throw away their best Lefty bat. If Hammer was going to play 1B they'd be putting him there now. I did think Hermida would be the ROY, and for what its worth, I pegged Uggla for 16 homers as for Hammer at 1b, we'll see :thumbup So, the FO is giving up on Jacobs already? If you take away his horrendous slump the first month of the season, I thought he played fairly well. He was raking the ball for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollyberry Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Maybe we can lure Matt Murton away from the Cubs and make him a CF'er . Matt Murton playing CF in that ballpark? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol I already know that Matt Murton is not a CF'er. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 didnt Youk leadoff for the Red Sox this year? Yes, when Francona wasn't being an idiot. I'd much rather have my leadoff man working counts and getting on base then being a speedster who doesn't get on as much but is valued only because he has speed. Because having a league-leading base stealer leading off hasn't helped the Mets at all. I'm not quite sure you get it. Reyes also has a .353 OBP and a .846 OPS. Translation, he gets on base a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsrule Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 mike cameron is a good CF he can save us from getting knocked around and has a pretty decent bat. so if we get him we could forget about our troubles and win the 07 ws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 mike cameron is a good CF he can save us from getting knocked around and has a pretty decent bat. so if we get him we could forget about our troubles and win the 07 ws Cameron is not the key and especially at his going rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 mike cameron is a good CF he can save us from getting knocked around and has a pretty decent bat. so if we get him we could forget about our troubles and win the 07 ws Cameron is not the key and especially at his going rate He sure would be a nice complementary piece, but that's only if we decided to spend a lot more money than we end up spending. But, just something to think about, all the big money teams are set in the outfield (Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Dodgers) and the Cubs'll either re-up Pierre or let Pie take the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsrule Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 mike cameron is a good CF he can save us from getting knocked around and has a pretty decent bat. so if we get him we could forget about our troubles and win the 07 ws Cameron is not the key and especially at his going rate he played in petco park where almost no homers are hit how about gary matthews jr. hes cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Why do you assume Gary Matthews Jr. will be cheap coming off the year he is having? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsrule Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Why do you assume Gary Matthews Jr. will be cheap coming off the year he is having? i just went to this website and it said he asked for 2.4m this year and i dont think it is going to get higher than 4.8m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirspud Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 mike cameron is a good CF he can save us from getting knocked around and has a pretty decent bat. so if we get him we could forget about our troubles and win the 07 ws Cameron is not the key and especially at his going rate He sure would be a nice complementary piece, but that's only if we decided to spend a lot more money than we end up spending. But, just something to think about, all the big money teams are set in the outfield (Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Dodgers) and the Cubs'll either re-up Pierre or let Pie take the job. Why not try to get Pie? If the Cubs re-sign Pierre they may consider trading him IF we offered a good package including some pitching. I realize that he isn't ready, but neither was Hanley, at least according to most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsrule Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 mike cameron is a good CF he can save us from getting knocked around and has a pretty decent bat. so if we get him we could forget about our troubles and win the 07 ws Cameron is not the key and especially at his going rate He sure would be a nice complementary piece, but that's only if we decided to spend a lot more money than we end up spending. But, just something to think about, all the big money teams are set in the outfield (Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Dodgers) and the Cubs'll either re-up Pierre or let Pie take the job. Why not try to get Pie? If the Cubs re-sign Pierre they may consider trading him IF we offered a good package including some pitching. I realize that he isn't ready, but neither was Hanley, at least according to most. pierre is having an off-season so just face it he will be good next year and help us win the playoffs if we get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Eventually Hermida is going to become a fine #2 hitter. And just because you do or do not steal bases, doesnt make you any less of a leadoff man. Stolen bases help, sure. Hammer is going to be your starting 1b next year. You can predict it all you want, but until it materializes it shouldn't affect the lineup. Hermida has to earn the spot he was given and failed in at the beginning of the season. I'm sure you predicted he would have a ROY season and Uggla would besent down and back with the DBacks also. Many of us did, but that's not reality. As far as Hammer at 1B...that makes less sense than anything. When Jacobs finally has a healthy ankle next year they aren't going to want to throw away their best Lefty bat. If Hammer was going to play 1B they'd be putting him there now. didnt Youk leadoff for the Red Sox this year? Yes, when Francona wasn't being an idiot. I'd much rather have my leadoff man working counts and getting on base then being a speedster who doesn't get on as much but is valued only because he has speed. Because having a league-leading base stealer leading off hasn't helped the Mets at all. At all? Nope. I don't believe that was his point. But even a fraction of those 19 [presumably solo] homers is more valuable at the leadoff spot than all the steals put together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Rob Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I'd like to see Mike Cameron in LF and Gary Matthews Jr. in CF. It's affordable considering the rest of the payroll will be less that $20 million combined. I don't see how a payroll of $30-35 million puts a big league club in the red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Altamonte Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 We need a CF not a lead-off hitter guys. A veteran coming into the ballclub doesn't quite make sense unless its a young veteran like Crawford or Coco Crisp. I actually would prefer a high ceiling prospect to develop on this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfan79 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Crisp is very highly paid. Very highly paid? 3.5 in '07 (Age 28) 4.75 in '08 (Age 29) 5.75 in '09 (Age 30) for us I meant my apologies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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