September 26, 200620 yr i think Lorias already have mind setup. i wont be supprise if he have press conf after game to tell all fan that Girardi was fire and we have new manger name Fredi Gonzalez
September 26, 200620 yr YOU DONT FIRE THE MANAGER OF A TEAM THAT MAKES THIS SEASON RELEVANT.... wow, so it's true. People really think a manager is responsible for all these wins and this great season. Girardi was along for the ride if anything. Welcome Fredi Gonzalez!!!
September 26, 200620 yr I liked Fredi Gonzalez and I hope it works out with him. I wish this Girardi/FO feud had not gotten so ugly but it's been obvious for some time that the relationship is beyond repair. It's just so ironic that Loria was so completely hell-bent on hiring Girardi.
September 26, 200620 yr forget fredi gonzalez!!!! the players love girardi and so do i becuase he has the righ attitude and has done an amazing job. accordingly, if we lose the whole coaching staff we are going to have a serious problem. girardi was picked by loria becuase he was the right man for the job. stop acting like he didnt do well
September 26, 200620 yr YOU DONT FIRE THE MANAGER OF A TEAM THAT MAKES THIS SEASON RELEVANT.... Admin Beinfest made this season relivent. Go watch a Twins game. Go worry about the Reds.....You wish you had a manager as good as Girardi. No I don't. For some reason, Girardi thought he was the manager, GM, and the owner. It doesn't work that way. Wrong. Girardi just wanted to manage without the owner getting caught up in the moment and chirping at the umpire over balls and strikes. Girardi doesnt deserve to be accussed of wanting to be the GM and the owner. Can you guys show a friking ounce of respect to the guy in his last days as manager? Guess you were right about Joey Pitbull all along... :whistle The man does not know how to work with people. Simple. Excuse me but did you go to summer camp with Girardi? How the f*** do you know if he can work with people or not? Let's see...manhandling his players, telling THE GUY WHO SIGNS HIS PAYCHECK to "shut the f--k up" in public... Being more concerned whether or not a player is clean shaven. You want to get the most of your situation, you don't act like a jerk. Granted Loria is no prize, but if Joey Pitbull had any sense, he should have talked to Loria IN PRIVATE, not telling him to STFU in front of everybody. I'd say Joey Pitbull can't work with people.
September 26, 200620 yr forget fredi gonzalez!!!! the players love girardi and so do i becuase he has the righ attitude and has done an amazing job. accordingly, if we lose the whole coaching staff we are going to have a serious problem. girardi was picked by loria becuase he was the right man for the job. stop acting like he didnt do well forget about girardi, he's gone. below average in-game manager, horrible interpersonal skills, questionable spring training opinions (Uggla LF...etc.). He's endeared himself to his players, so ill give him credit there...but even that may be washed away once he's gone.
September 26, 200620 yr forget fredi gonzalez!!!! the players love girardi and so do i becuase he has the righ attitude and has done an amazing job. accordingly, if we lose the whole coaching staff we are going to have a serious problem. girardi was picked by loria becuase he was the right man for the job. stop acting like he didnt do well I questioned a lot of his moves like many others did but I do think the players liked and responded to him. Before he was hired I wasn't on the Girardi bandwagon but once they decided on him I wished him all the success in the world and hoped for the best. I'd still like to know his side of what went down because I just can't take all these leaked stories at face value but at this point it's just a given that he's not coming back.
September 26, 200620 yr forget fredi gonzalez!!!! the players love girardi and so do i becuase he has the righ attitude and has done an amazing job. accordingly, if we lose the whole coaching staff we are going to have a serious problem. girardi was picked by loria becuase he was the right man for the job. stop acting like he didnt do well no they dont.
September 26, 200620 yr Jesus people, get it through your skulls... Girardi didn't get along well with the people who mattered (Beinfest and Loria). Anything else is irrelevant. It doesn't matter that the team performed well, or that the players liked him. Now, I'm not one who loves this ownership group, but facts are facts. Do you think Loria and Beinfest don't know that the Marlins played well this year? That some of it has to do with Girardi? Of course they do. They're not blind. If they are willing to get rid of Girardi after Loria hand-picked him for the job, then there are reasons. He MUST have done enough things behind closed doors to irreparably damage his relationships with the organization. That being said, do I agree with the smear campaign against Girardi? No. It's unprofessional, and behavior of that type is precisely why I don't like this ownership group. The bottom line is, if we want this franchise to be successful long term, everyone needs to be on the same page. Everyone. That's what Beinfest wants and that's what he deserves. What do you think made the Braves so successful for so many years? Schurholtz and Cox had the same agenda. The General Manager had plans for his talent, the Manager implemented those plans. That's the type of organization we should be developing. We should not hold onto someone, regardless of the success he had, if he can't play nicely with the most important executive in the organization. Bring on Gonzalez!
September 26, 200620 yr My prediction Fredi Gonzalez a local favorate will be fired in 2 yrs. We will be calling for his head by the all-star game
September 26, 200620 yr doubt it. this team is only going to get better. further, if he can remain on at least neutral terms with the management he'll be fine.
September 26, 200620 yr I dont really care about Girardi leaving because honestly I didnt like his attitude but all I'm saying is that the marlins should be smart and play along with this. Im sure a succesful manager is needed somewhere around the league, for example the Cubs (where he would love to manage) he also comes with a cheap price tag that can lure in a good player, hence Juan Pierre or more likely a Murton (since I really dont think they would part ways with Pie) so why make this more of a soap opera which could only make the marlins seem desperate to get rid of him, with just a handful of games ahead. Play the field and listen to offers. Worst comes to worst you can always fire him.
September 26, 200620 yr Jesus people, get it through your skulls... Girardi didn't get along well with the people who mattered (Beinfest and Loria). Anything else is irrelevant. It doesn't matter that the team performed well, or that the players liked him. Now, I'm not one who loves this ownership group, but facts are facts. Do you think Loria and Beinfest don't know that the Marlins played well this year? That some of it has to do with Girardi? Of course they do. They're not blind. If they are willing to get rid of Girardi after Loria hand-picked him for the job, then there are reasons. He MUST have done enough things behind closed doors to irreparably damage his relationships with the organization. That being said, do I agree with the smear campaign against Girardi? No. It's unprofessional, and behavior of that type is precisely why I don't like this ownership group. The bottom line is, if we want this franchise to be successful long term, everyone needs to be on the same page. Everyone. That's what Beinfest wants and that's what he deserves. What do you think made the Braves so successful for so many years? Schurholtz and Cox had the same agenda. The General Manager had plans for his talent, the Manager implemented those plans. That's the type of organization we should be developing. We should not hold onto someone, regardless of the success he had, if he can't play nicely with the most important executive in the organization. Bring on Gonzalez! BTW that was so low class what the FO did against Girardi, they could have just parted ways quietly. It would have been even better for the team, we could have gotten some decent compensation from the Cubs...NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
September 26, 200620 yr doubt it. this team is only going to get better. further, if he can remain on at least neutral terms with the management he'll be fine. Remember I said it in September 2006 Fredi Gonzalez will be object of heavy criticism next season from all of us who would be applauding his hiring
September 26, 200620 yr I think that all the coaches must have done an excellent job, but I also think it's best we part ways with all of Girardi's staff. There's no sense keeping anyone who will have residual hostilities towards the FO. Better to start off new (maybe even bring Wiley back ), and let Joe's guys go with Joe.
September 26, 200620 yr doubt it. this team is only going to get better. further, if he can remain on at least neutral terms with the management he'll be fine. Remember I said it in September 2005 Fredi Gonzalez will be object of heavy criticism next season from all of us who would be applauding his hiring awesome. i think you'll be proved wrong as long as he doesnt make the bone-headed in-game mistakes girardi has made this season...really, I think he ranks worst all-time of Marlin managers as far as that aspect goes.
September 26, 200620 yr doubt it. this team is only going to get better. further, if he can remain on at least neutral terms with the management he'll be fine. Remember I said it in September 2005 Fredi Gonzalez will be object of heavy criticism next season from all of us who would be applauding his hiring awesome. i think you'll be proved wrong as long as he doesnt make the bone-headed in-game mistakes girardi has made this season...really, I think he ranks worst all-time of Marlin managers as far as that aspect goes. also, it's 2006. thanks i corrected it
September 26, 200620 yr i like the article but the only thing is.. would Kranitz really walk out? if there is anyone u want to keep, its him. becuz u know that Hill will be back next year. just wondering about that situation and what will go down wit that. krantiz is gone. oh ok was just wondering. this offseason sure will be exciting. I bet we get mark wiley back from last year. He did a good job too then
September 26, 200620 yr Girardi is not a very good mgr. so if he leaves and Fredi gets the job am all for it..... time and time again Girardi has made bad decisions and telling the owner to shut the hell up doesn't help secure your job..... Also how does he not get along with Beinfest, hello the reason u might get Mgr. of the year is all because of this guy..... Good Ridance...
September 26, 200620 yr I love Fredi for obvious reasons, but my favorite reason for bringing him in is he might bring something we have never had in this organization: Stability. We've never had a player,owner, manager, hell we've never even had a broadcaster stay with us long term. This is Fredi's dream job, and would be a stepping stone. He is young enough not to get burned out. If he does a good job, he could stay 12-15 years. Be the face of the franchise. With firesales around the corner every few years, we need a guy like that.
September 26, 200620 yr I love Fredi for obvious reasons, but my favorite reason for bringing him in is he might bring something we have never had in this organization: Stability. We've never had a player,owner, manager, hell we've never even had a broadcaster stay with us long term. This is Fredi's dream job, and would be a stepping stone. He is young enough not to get burned out. If he does a good job, he could stay 12-15 years. Be the face of the franchise. With firesales around the corner every few years, we need a guy like that. With the history this organization has with player and manager turnover, I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Fredi Gonzalez will come in and provide stability.
September 26, 200620 yr I love Fredi for obvious reasons, but my favorite reason for bringing him in is he might bring something we have never had in this organization: Stability. We've never had a player,owner, manager, hell we've never even had a broadcaster stay with us long term. This is Fredi's dream job, and would be a stepping stone. He is young enough not to get burned out. If he does a good job, he could stay 12-15 years. Be the face of the franchise. With firesales around the corner every few years, we need a guy like that. With the history this organization has with player and manager turnover, I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Fredi Gonzalez will come in and provide stability. The point is that he has a much better chance of staying long term than a guy like Mckeon,Leyland or Yankee/Cub lover Joe Giradi.
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