HA HA GOOD :notworthy

Look - the point is, 68 bullets is excessive. Period. It makes the police look bad and THAT is why I think it's stupid. There is absolutely no way for the police to justify to the public 68 bullets. This does nothing but give anti-gun lobbiests more ammo [pun intended] and liberals an example of how cops are little more than a bunch of thugs hiding behind a badge. It undermines their ability to effectively enforce the law.

 

The only thing the police need to justify to me regards the 42 rounds that missed.

We have a system and no one should undermine it, including it's own police force.

 

I don't agree with it, but whatever. I think the SWAT team, unless they can prove where actually threatened and justified, should be given a reprimand of some sort.

 

Because killing criminals in the streets undermines our courts and the entire justice system.

 

But, that being said, it's not a huge deal (if they at least tell them not to do it again). It's not like I'm shedding a tear for a cop-killer.

We have a system and no one should undermine it, including it's own police force.

 

I don't agree with it, but whatever. I think the SWAT team, unless they can prove where actually threatened and justified, should be given a reprimand of some sort.

 

 

Did you read this part?

 

"You have to understand, he had already shot and killed a deputy, he had already shot and killed a K-9 and he shot and injured another deputy," Judd said by phone Saturday. "Quite frankly, we weren't taking any chances."

Ten SWAT officers surrounded Freeland on Friday as he hid beneath brush and a fallen tree in a rural area. Authorities say he raised the gun belonging to the deputy he had killed, prompting nine officers to fire.

We have a system and no one should undermine it, including it's own police force.

 

I don't agree with it, but whatever. I think the SWAT team, unless they can prove where actually threatened and justified, should be given a reprimand of some sort.

 

 

Did you read this part?

 

"You have to understand, he had already shot and killed a deputy, he had already shot and killed a K-9 and he shot and injured another deputy," Judd said by phone Saturday. "Quite frankly, we weren't taking any chances."

Ten SWAT officers surrounded Freeland on Friday as he hid beneath brush and a fallen tree in a rural area. Authorities say he raised the gun belonging to the deputy he had killed, prompting nine officers to fire.

 

Irrelevant.

 

So, I guess just because he did something bad they had to go overkill? That was the only way to do it?

 

Criminals should be prosecuted and still have certain rights (see: due process); it's what makes our system superior to other systems. It sounds to me, and I could be mistaken, as if this guy got cornered and they unloaded on him. That's not due process. That's just some macho bulls***/revenge trip. And I don't believe that's anywhere in our system.

 

Oh, well, if he posed a legitmate threat, I don't care, but to go overboard just seems kind of ridiculous.

Look - the point is, 68 bullets is excessive. Period. It makes the police look bad and THAT is why I think it's stupid. There is absolutely no way for the police to justify to the public 68 bullets. This does nothing but give anti-gun lobbiests more ammo [pun intended] and liberals an example of how cops are little more than a bunch of thugs hiding behind a badge. It undermines their ability to effectively enforce the law.

 

The only thing the police need to justify to me regards the 42 rounds that missed.

I'm sure a few rounds went through the same hole, this creating a discrepency in the hit percentage :thumbup .

 

We have a system and no one should undermine it, including it's own police force.

 

*insert Colonel Jessup speech from A Few Good Men*

 

 

 

We have a system and no one should undermine it, including it's own police force.

 

I don't agree with it, but whatever. I think the SWAT team, unless they can prove where actually threatened and justified, should be given a reprimand of some sort.

 

 

Did you read this part?

 

"You have to understand, he had already shot and killed a deputy, he had already shot and killed a K-9 and he shot and injured another deputy," Judd said by phone Saturday. "Quite frankly, we weren't taking any chances."

Ten SWAT officers surrounded Freeland on Friday as he hid beneath brush and a fallen tree in a rural area. Authorities say he raised the gun belonging to the deputy he had killed, prompting nine officers to fire.

 

Irrelevant.

 

So, I guess just because he did something bad they had to go overkill? That was the only way to do it?

 

Criminals should be prosecuted and still have certain rights (see: due process); it's what makes our system superior to other systems. It sounds to me, and I could be mistaken, as if this guy got cornered and they unloaded on him. That's not due process. That's just some macho bulls***/revenge trip. And I don't believe that's anywhere in our system.

 

Oh, well, if he posed a legitmate threat, I don't care, but to go overboard just seems kind of ridiculous.

He signed his own death warrant when he aimed a firearm at 10 SWAT officers. WTF do you expect is going to happen when you point a gun at a SWAT team? They didn't go overboard at all, 110 rounds from a total of 10 officers is nothing more than 11 rounds per officer, which is not even 1/3 of an entire magazine, you can squeeze that off in less than 2 seconds. The entire shooting happened in a matter of 2-3 seconds and that was it, it wasn't overboard at all and it was 100% justified.

 

If you aim a firearm at a cop you will be shot no questions asked and they will not stop firing until you drop and no longer pose a threat. Doesn't matter if it's one officer or a 10 man SWAT team. The guy obviously had a death wish and probably had no intentions of ever firing the gun at the SWAT team, it's called suicide by cop. His death is no ones fault but his own and the officers did everything by the book.

So, I guess just because he did something bad they had to go overkill? That was the only way to do it?

 

Criminals should be prosecuted and still have certain rights (see: due process); it's what makes our system superior to other systems. It sounds to me, and I could be mistaken, as if this guy got cornered and they unloaded on him. That's not due process. That's just some macho bulls***/revenge trip. And I don't believe that's anywhere in our system.

 

Oh, well, if he posed a legitmate threat, I don't care, but to go overboard just seems kind of ridiculous.

 

 

 

This part!

 

Authorities say he raised the gun belonging to the deputy he had killed, prompting nine officers to fire.

 

They are each going to shoot, and frankly if you are using deadly force, a half-measure only causes threats.

OH NO! HE POINTED A GUN AT NINE DUDES WEARING KEVLAR AND WITH BULLET SHIELDS! HELP!

 

Oh, well. Dude's stupid and got what he deserved. But, they still went overboard. Just my opinion.

OH NO! HE POINTED A GUN AT NINE DUDES WEARING KEVLAR AND WITH BULLET SHIELDS! HELP!

 

Oh, well. Dude's stupid and got what he deserved. But, they still went overboard. Just my opinion.

 

You gotta be sh*tting me.

 

Your train of thought is what gets people killed. I'm not even going to argue this one, instead i'll just write it off as you temporarily reverting back to the "old Buckeye."

Who cares how many bullets were fired, if you kill a cop, you are ruthless. If he killed one, who says he doesnt try to kill another. Use a tank on him if you want. Theres enough bullets in this country to go around.

OH NO! HE POINTED A GUN AT NINE DUDES WEARING KEVLAR AND WITH BULLET SHIELDS! HELP!

 

Oh, well. Dude's stupid and got what he deserved. But, they still went overboard. Just my opinion.

 

You gotta be sh*tting me.

 

Your train of thought is what gets people killed. I'm not even going to argue this one, instead i'll just write it off as you temporarily reverting back to the "old Buckeye."

im sorry here accord...but your train of thought gets people killed...lets put it this way...if you were jfk back during the cuban missile crisis...roaches would be the only ones left to tell the story of humanity gone wrong...and stop calling him the "old buckeye" jesus christ(sorry big guy) already...he has a different opinion on everything...just like everyone else that doesnt favor killing everything he sees...damn you are going to be a good marine...in that movie that is coming out, you should have starred in it...you would be the most convincing action hero in history because you actually believe that death and violence is the trigger to bring peace and justice to this world...all that said...it is overkill to shoot this guy as much they did...once he had his head blown all over the wall...they should have realized he isnt jean grey

If 68 bullets was needed to kill that man in the minds of those officers than I stand by it.

.it is overkill to shoot this guy as much they did...once he had his head blown all over the wall...they should have realized he isnt jean grey

 

 

Those shots were fired in a split second. Every single cop is going to fire, instead of just assuming his buddy will take care of it. The weapons have a high rate of fire, 9 SWAT officers would easily put out a dozen rounds each before they know if they got him. That isn't overkill, it is use of deadly force.

Is everybody forgetting were talking about a damn worthless Cop KILLER? Does anybody need to be reminded of that? Did those officers prob. have itchy trigger fingers?.... yea prob. so what? wouldnt you if one of your friends/ fellow officer been killed? he deserved to die and did... good. end of story. If shooting him helped those officers get over losing one of their own then good

Is everybody forgetting were talking about a damn worthless Cop KILLER?

 

Exactly. These are the same people who want to give rights to terrorists that want to kill American's.

You don't give rights to anyone. They're born with them.

 

I suggest you brush up on your Locke, sir.

I hate the double standards. If this was soemone accused of killing a common person in, say, liberty city, they would have never used so much man-power. But we all know cops>civilians.

 

Yes they would have, you have no idea what you're talking about. If someone shot and killed 2 people, they're not going to send a patrol car out to serve the arrest warrant, they're going to send the SWAT team or something similar.

 

Of course they'll send the SWAT team for the eventual arrest, but a 500 officer man hunt? Doubt it.

I'm going to look up some inner city murder statistics and eventual arrests (if they ever occurred) when I get home and get back to you on this one.

Dude fired at four cops and one police dog. He managed to kill the dog and one cop, and he wounded another cop before fleeing, armed, into the woods.

 

I think a person that dangerous running into the woods--guns ablazin'--would warrant a 24-hour manhunt and school lockdowns, regardless of whom his victims were.

That's for sure.

 

You know, I don't even care how many bullets they threw into the poor sap. Just with some of the justification (see: accord) that was used in the whole event.

Yea I was wrong in this one. Guy had it coming. Just trying to stir up some discussion.