October 2, 200620 yr First one on the can: CHICAGO ? (AP) ? Dusty Baker is out as the Chicago Cubs' manager following a last-place finish and a failure to take the team to the playoffs in his four years. The Cubs made the announcement Monday, a day after team president Andy MacPhail resigned and the club finished with a 66-96 record. Baker was in the last season of his $14 million-to-$15 million deal and had hoped to resurrect the franchise that hadn't been in the World Series since 1945 and hadn't won one since 1908. He compiled a 322-326 record during his time in Chicago. Known for his toothpicks and wristbands while managing from the dugout, Baker was popular with his players and in his 14th season as manager. Add to the list: Frank Robinson from the Nats...Felipe Alou from the Giants Team Former Replacement MARLINS Joe Girardi Fredi Gonzalez CUBS Dusty Baker Lou Pinella NATIONALS Frank Robinson Manny Acta GIANTS Felipe Alou Bruce Bochy RANGERS Buck Showalter Ron Washington ATHLETICS Ken Macha Bob Geren PADRES Bruce Bochy Bud Black Who is next???
October 2, 200620 yr Buddy Bell and Joe Girardi [as stupid as this would be] seem like likely candidates. I think Mike Hargrove deserves an honorable mention.
October 2, 200620 yr CHICAGO ? (AP) ? Dusty Baker is out as the Chicago Cubs' manager following a last-place finish and a failure to take the team to the playoffs in his four years. The Cubs made the announcement Monday, a day after team president Andy MacPhail resigned and the club finished with a 66-96 record. Baker was in the last season of his $14 million-to-$15 million deal and had hoped to resurrect the franchise that hadn't been in the World Series since 1945 and hadn't won one since 1908. He compiled a 322-326 record during his time in Chicago. Known for his toothpicks and wristbands while managing from the dugout, Baker was popular with his players and in his 14th season as manager. Man, that fact checker should be fired. It's not like the Cubs weren't a huge part of one of the most famous post season series in history...
October 2, 200620 yr Man, that fact checker should be fired. LOL - I *almost* said something but decided to stay on topic instead... :lol
October 2, 200620 yr Author Add Felipe Alou to the list...AP report he has just been let go SAN FRANCISCO … (AP) … The San Francisco Giants have announced that Felipe Alou will not return as their manager in 2007. on the assistant coaching front...Red Sox will not renew the contracts of hitting coach Ron Jackson and pitching coach Dave Wallace
October 2, 200620 yr wow...if gonzalez doesnt coach the fish then id love to see Alou. btw would love to have Jackson and Wallace if our guys go with Girardi which is very likely.
October 2, 200620 yr wow...if gonzalez doesnt coach the fish then id love to see Alou. btw would love to have Jackson and Wallace if our guys go with Girardi which is very likely. Meh on Wallace, because of what I read about the Red Sox limiting the number of curveballs Beckett threw between starts, which I'm assuming is something that would come from the pitching coach. He said that it didn't affect him any but the times I saw him pitch said otherwise; the rare times he did throw a curveball, a lot of them didn't look particularly sharp, which I'd attribute to him not really having practiced it in his between-start sessions. We all saw how devastating his curve was with the Marlins and he was handcuffed into hardly throwing them this season...and I don't know if I saw him throw a 2-seamer the entire year and that was something that he'd used effectively with the Marlins in '05. In other words, I don't relish the idea of someone who turned Josh Beckett into a 1-pitch starter with a 5+ ERA working with the Marlins' staff.
October 2, 200620 yr wow...if gonzalez doesnt coach the fish then id love to see Alou. btw would love to have Jackson and Wallace if our guys go with Girardi which is very likely. Meh on Wallace, because of what I read about the Red Sox limiting the number of curveballs Beckett threw between starts, which I'm assuming is something that would come from the pitching coach. He said that it didn't affect him any but the times I saw him pitch said otherwise; the rare times he did throw a curveball, a lot of them didn't look particularly sharp, which I'd attribute to him not really having practiced it in his between-start sessions. We all saw how devastating his curve was with the Marlins and he was handcuffed into hardly throwing them this season...and I don't know if I saw him throw a 2-seamer the entire year and that was something that he'd used effectively with the Marlins in '05. In other words, I don't relish the idea of someone who turned Josh Beckett into a 1-pitch starter with a 5+ ERA working with the Marlins' staff. Wallace wasn't even the pitching coach for Spring Training or most of the season. I'd take Wallace over Nipper any day.
October 2, 200620 yr The thought of Girardi becoming the Cubs' manager makes me physically sick. ya i hate it too but, it just fits.
October 3, 200620 yr I'm not sad to see Alou go as the Giants manager. I was actually hoping he wouldn't have been back for this season. I'm curious to see who they get... Ron Wotus? How bout Girardi? The only name I've really heard thrown out there is Jim Fregosi. Don't know if I'd like that.
October 3, 200620 yr I'm not sad to see Alou go as the Giants manager. I was actually hoping he wouldn't have been back for this season. I'm curious to see who they get... Ron Wotus? How bout Girardi? The only name I've really heard thrown out there is Jim Fregosi. Don't know if I'd like that. I want Brenly
October 3, 200620 yr Author Perry Hill wouldn't leave would he? I think Perry Hill is here to stay as long as he wants too...remember he was the only Management-mandated holdover to the staff and a coach that Girardi had to keep no matter what. So unless he doesn't want to coach anymore I would expect Hill to be back coaching first base and working with the infielders next season. As for the other assistant coaches....I can see most of them going with Joe, such as Bobby M., Kranitz among others....I think Fredi (if he is the chosen manager) would reach somewhat into Marlins history and form a coaching staff.. I would be shocked to see people like Cookie Rojas, Andre Dawson and Tony Perez among those mentioned for positions within the coaching staff...just my opinion
October 3, 200620 yr I wouldn't want Alou as coach. I'd rather Gonzalez. Alou and Loria don't like each other...don't worry.
October 3, 200620 yr I'm not sad to see Alou go as the Giants manager. I was actually hoping he wouldn't have been back for this season. I'm curious to see who they get... Ron Wotus? How bout Girardi? The only name I've really heard thrown out there is Jim Fregosi. Don't know if I'd like that. I want Brenly There's something about Brenly I don't like. I don't know what it is... I wouldn't mind Ron Wotus or I even heard Bud Black being thrown in the mix....
October 4, 200620 yr Author Add three more assistant coaches to the scrap heap.. The Phillies didn't renew the contracts of First base coach Marc Bombard, third base coach Bill Dancy and bench coach Gary Varsho. LINK
October 4, 200620 yr Add Buck Showalter to that list. ESPN News is reporting that Buck Showalter has been fired as the manager of the Texas Rangers. The Rangers won 80 games this year, which was actually an improvement by one game over 2005, but Showalter's had four years to try to get Texas to the postseason and failed, so this can't be a huge surprise to him. He is signed through 2009, so Texas will eat a good chunk of Showalter's contract. http://x.go.com/cgi/x.pl?goto=http://sport...410&srvc=sz
October 4, 200620 yr I feel bad for Showalter. Like Baker, the pitching problems were out of his control. He isn't the one who is supposed to go out and get some decent arms.
October 4, 200620 yr so do the rangers win the WS next year? Both Yanks and Dbacks won the WS the year after Buck was fired.
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