January 14, 200719 yr 1:56 left. eagles down to their last down after the two minute warning. if they don't convert now, it's over.
January 14, 200719 yr The NFL is really rigged.....like I predicted....I think it'll be the Colts over the Saints in the Super Bowl. Everyone will be on the Saints and Vegas will really pull in the cash with the Colts winning.
January 14, 200719 yr The NFL is really rigged.....like I predicted....I think it'll be the Colts over the Saints in the Super Bowl. Everyone will be on the Saints and Vegas will really pull in the cash with the Colts winning. Then why be a fan? You still haven't explained this, probably because it doesn't make any sense. Face it, Jacksonville isn't nearly the "NFL team" Miami is. So, they'd never have them win a Superbowl. Besides, if it was truly fixed the Colts would have won the last two Superbowls, since P. Manning is the NFL's goldenboy. So, how is it fixed, again? Aside from your team not being able to make the playoffs in the good conference?
January 14, 200719 yr The NFL is really rigged.....like I predicted....I think it'll be the Colts over the Saints in the Super Bowl. Everyone will be on the Saints and Vegas will really pull in the cash with the Colts winning. Then why be a fan? You still haven't explained this, probably because it doesn't make any sense. Face it, Jacksonville isn't nearly the "NFL team" Miami is. So, they'd never have them win a Superbowl. Besides, if it was truly fixed the Colts would have won the last two Superbowls, since P. Manning is the NFL's goldenboy. So, how is it fixed, again? Aside from your team not being able to make the playoffs in the good conference? Why would they make Indy a winner? Indy is a small market. Also, Jacksonville OWNS Miami so don't start that. they beat them this year and they ended Danny Marino's career 72-6? lol. Reggie Bush falls to the #2 pick? Open your eyes man....Pro sports is crazy-look at drafts..... Patrick Ewing to the Knicks? LeBron James to the hometown Cavs? I guess you're right things aren't weird in sports (I'm guesing you don't follow point spreads either)....just do some research....gambling runs wild in sports.....Wayne Gretszy, Michael Jordan, Pete Rose, Joe Nameth and Paul Hornung both suspended by the NFL for gambling. I could go on and on but its worthless....do some research and get back on here.
January 14, 200719 yr The NFL is really rigged.....like I predicted....I think it'll be the Colts over the Saints in the Super Bowl. Everyone will be on the Saints and Vegas will really pull in the cash with the Colts winning. Not sure how its rigged, you havent explain yourself at all... Anyways rigged or not rigged I BANKED TODAY BABY!! Colts (+4) parlayed with the under Eagles(+6) parlayed with the over HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE day for me.... Thats why tomorrow I will take...... Nothing! Taken the $$$$$ and running with it!
January 14, 200719 yr The NFL is really rigged.....like I predicted....I think it'll be the Colts over the Saints in the Super Bowl. Everyone will be on the Saints and Vegas will really pull in the cash with the Colts winning. Not sure how its rigged, you havent explain yourself at all... Anyways rigged or not rigged I BANKED TODAY BABY!! Colts (+4) parlayed with the under Eagles(+6) parlayed with the over HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE day for me.... Thats why tomorrow I will take...... Nothing! Taken the $$$$$ and running with it! Nice....I took the Saints ML and Colts ML....$$$$$ Tomorrow I like the Pats.
January 14, 200719 yr The NFL is really rigged.....like I predicted....I think it'll be the Colts over the Saints in the Super Bowl. Everyone will be on the Saints and Vegas will really pull in the cash with the Colts winning. Not sure how its rigged, you havent explain yourself at all... Anyways rigged or not rigged I BANKED TODAY BABY!! Colts (+4) parlayed with the under Eagles(+6) parlayed with the over HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE day for me.... Thats why tomorrow I will take...... Nothing! Taken the $$$$$ and running with it! Nice....I took the Saints ML and Colts ML....$$$$$ Tomorrow I like the Pats. If I take anthing tomorrow, I will take the Over in the Seahawks/Bears game (37.5)
January 14, 200719 yr Let me just state some facts....and we can have an honest discussion on if the NFL is rigged or not.... 1)A majority of early NFL owners were known gamblers. Some were even tied to organized crime. One time Dallas Cowboy owner Clint Murchison Jr., Kansas City Chief owner Lamar Hunt (son of oilman H.L. Hunt Jr.), Cleveland Brown/Baltimore Raven owner Art Modell, New Orleans Saints owner John Mecom Jr. (who had very close ties to Mafia boss Carlos Marcello, a key player in bringing a team in New Orleans), Chicago/St. Louis/Arizona Cardinal owner Charles Bidwell (who was a bootlegger and an associate of Al Capone), and Philadelphia Eagle owner DeBenneville "Bert" Bell (who had ties to the East Coast Mafia) all were known to have been gamblers and bet on football (some even their own teams). 2) Carroll Rosenbloom, one time owner of the Baltimore Colts, not only bet on his team, but also altered the outcome of a game because of it. Oddly enough, it was this very game that legitimized football for the television networks. It has been called the greatest game ever played: the 1958 NFL championship game. Rosenbloom?s Colts were playing the New York Giants, who were 3 ? to 5 ? point underdogs. Rosenbloom laid down $1 million on his boys to win. [8] The Colts were losing until the last seven seconds, when Colts kicker Steve Myhra kicked a field goal to tie the game at 17-17 and send it into overtime. In overtime, the Colts marched 80 yards down the field to get to the Giants eight-yard line ? easy field goal territory. But they never kicked. Instead Rosenbloom, knowing the game was won but his bet lost with a field goal, had his general manager force Coach Ewbank to go in for the touchdown. Final score: Colts 23, Giants 17, which covered the point spread, and Rosenbloom's money. [sports gamblers generally bet not just on the victor, but on a particular "spread," or margin of victory.] 3) Players, too, have been tempted by the bookmaker. Several star players of the 1950s-1960s were known to have gambled, and some to have fixed games. Bookmaker/Gambler Don Dawson has admitted that during those two decades, he had personally been involved in fixing no fewer than 32 NFL games. [9] Washington Redskin quarterback Sammy Baugh, Pittsburgh/Detroit quarterback Bobby Layne, and Kansas City quarterback Len Dawson, were alleged to have gambled (and perhaps shave points), but were never charged or convicted of a crime. Green Bay Packer great Paul Horning and Detroit Lions star Alex Karras were not so fortunate. On the January 16, 1963 edition of the NBC evening news program The Huntley-Brinkley Report, Detroit Lions star defensive tackle Alex Karras admitted that he had bet on football games in which he played. A national scandal erupted. It was quickly quelled on April 17, 1963 when NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle indefinitely suspended Alex Karras and Paul Horning (who had bet on games in which he played as well) and fined 5 other Detroit Lions $2,000 each for betting on games in which they did not play. Rozelle also announced at that time that he had evidence that several other players around the League were gambling on the NFL, and that these players had been "reprimanded, but not fined." 4) In 1969, the National Football League (NFL) was in the biggest developmental stage in its history. It was merging with its rival, the American Football League (AFL), and fans of the NFL weren't accepting the new competition. In both Super Bowl I and II, the NFL (represented by the Green Bay Packers) had proven their dominance over the younger, weaker AFL. Now, with Super Bowl III looming and the merger and the resultant television contracts hanging in the balance, something had to be done. This time, the AFL would be represented by the New York Jets, led by the highest paid player of the time, quarterback Joe Namath. Representing the NFL were one of its oldest franchises, the Baltimore Colts, who were made 18-point favorites by the bookmakers to win the game. Yet, just a few days prior to the game, Joe Namath brashly guaranteed the Jets would win. He was proven correct when the Jets beat the Colts 16-7 in one of the biggest upsets in NFL history. More than an upset, it was a turning point for the NFL. Not only did it give credibility to the AFL teams in the fans' eyes, it further opened the NFL's doors to the TV networks, whose deep pockets finance football to this day. The question remains, however, why was Namath so sure of victory? I believe Joe Namath is the "smoking gun" of the NFL, and that Super Bowl III was the first -- but definitely not the last time -- that the NFL fixed the outcome of one of its own games. "Namath and his teammates' performance secured the two Leagues at the very least $100,000,000 in future TV revenue. The game was almost too good to be true," commented former NFL player Bernie Parrish in 1971. "Considering other devices imposed by TV's needs to lift fan interest and raise the advertisers' prices, perhaps it was too good to be true." [1] Football great Bubba Smith, who played for the Colts in Super Bowl III, wrote in his autobiography that the game had been "set up" for the Jets in order to boost the AFL's credibility. [2] In a later Playboy interview, Smith elaborated, "That Super Bowl game, which we lost by nine points, was the critical year. The game just seemed odd to me. Everything was out of place. I tried to rationalize that our coach, Don Shula, got out-coached, but that wasn't the case. I don't know if any of my teammates were in on the fix." 5) In 1971, former NFL star Bernie Parrish wrote, "With $139 million at stake for the owners, $84 million for the television networks, and up to $66 billion for organized crime's bookmaking syndicates, and with what I learned as a player, no one will ever convince me that numerous NFL games aren't fixed." Now, thirty years later, with the dollar figures 10 times what they were then, one would have to be na?ve to believe that the NFL would leave everything ? its name, its money, its very existence -- up to chance. 6) "I was involved with players in at least thirty-two NFL games that were dumped or where points were shaved. I knew a lot of players and then through them I got acquainted with other players and then did business with them." -Len Dawson
January 14, 200719 yr Any examples past 1971? Also, if the NFL is fixed, why were so many of the 90's Super Bowls blowouts? Don't you think they would have tried to make them better games? And uh, bad move there on the Eagles' part with the punt. It's been an epidemic in both pro and college football where teams punt when they won't really have time even in a best-case scenario. Sometimes you have to take a chance. When you're behind in a playoff game with under 2 minutes to play would be one of those times...especially considering that they would have picked up a 4th and 15 on the play they had just run that got wiped out by the penalty, so it's not like they don't have 15-yard plays in the repertoire or something.
January 14, 200719 yr Any examples past 1971? Also, if the NFL is fixed, why were so many of the 90's Super Bowls blowouts? Don't you think they would have tried to make them better games? And uh, bad move there on the Eagles' part with the punt. It's been an epidemic in both pro and college football where teams punt when they won't really have time even in a best-case scenario. Sometimes you have to take a chance. When you're behind in a playoff game with under 2 minutes to play would be one of those times...especially considering that they would have picked up a 4th and 15 on the play they had just run that got wiped out by the penalty, so it's not like they don't have 15-yard plays in the repertoire or something. First off, I don't believe ALL players are in on some big conspiracy. I also don't think ALL games are fixed like the WWF. I just the the NFL has an agenda as it's a million dollar business....gambling and Vegas is a 66 billion dollar business. I think all the refs are corrupt and I think the NFL sets up storylines like Bettis getting a ring, Patriots being patriotic after 9-11 and the Saints saving the city by drafting Reggie Bush 2nd???? Drew Brees picked a terrible city in New Orleans over a warm city Miami? Here is one of the best written stories I've read in a long time.....Utah newspaper....good sarcasm and very true! Conspiracy at work in the NFL? By Amy Donaldson and Chuck Gates Deseret Morning News Paging Oliver Stone. Former BYU physics professor Steve Jones, pick up a white conspiracy phone. Call me paranoid, but something besides FEMA's response time stinks down in Cajun Country. I'm talking about transforming the New Orleans Oswalds from last season's NFL roadkill into this year's Super Bowl tournament darlings. Remember, this is the patron franchise of lost seasons. The producer of ONE LOUSY playoff victory during its pitiful 39 years. A team with fans once so embarrassed they launched sports' brown-bag movement. That's why this "Up With Football" revival defies rational explanation. It's akin to Norma Jean's suicide, Di's fatal crash or that phony moon landing. Fittingly, it's unfolding in the Big Easy, which gave us conspiracy godfather Jim Garrison, the deceased D.A. made into an icon by Kevin Costner's portrayal in Stone's "JFK." Far-fetched? Yea, but that's what the former Russian spy guy thought until he walked past a Geiger counter. Recall 2005 when Hurricane Katrina's aftermath turned New Orleans' season into a 3-13 traveling punch line. It started with the team's 2005 HOME OPENER being played ON THE ROAD at Jimmy Hoffa's place in Jersey and ended with the wacky owner making overtures more unseemly than his "Benson Boogie" to spirit the team away to San Antonio. Meanwhile, NFL headquarters was botching things as badly as Rummy botched U.S. post-war strategy in Iraq. When wide receiver Joe Horn lashed out at the league, accusing it of treating the players and city shabbily, it was a rare case of someone playing the league's prima donna position opening his yap and actually talking some sense. Fast-forward to the present. New Orleans is the NFL's feel-good, ratings-grabbing story about a new head coach and more than 30 new players assimilating into an appetizing football gumbo. And we're eating it up. If Dallas is America's Team, the Oswalds are its Survivor. There's enough pixie dust swirling around the Mississippi Delta these days that the EPA should be monitoring for unsafe levels. But not before some strange happenings en route to the 2006 season. First, New Orleans outmanaged Miami to add premier free-agent quarterback Drew Brees, while subtracting scatter-armed/scatter-brained Aaron Brooks. True, Brees was recovering from offseason rotator cuff surgery, but even if his throwing arm was only attached with duct tape, how could you ignore his 20-11 record and 51 touchdowns as San Diego's starter the two previous seasons? We're being asked, of course, to believe the playoff-contending Chargers cut Brees loose to turn to unproven Phillip Rivers. Wink. Wink. The gumbo thickens when you learn the Dolphins' front office, after lengthy negotiations with Brees' keepers and amid reports he preferred sunny South Florida to the corner of Devastation and Destruction, inexplicably ended contract talks to trade for the Minnesota Sex Capades' Dante Culpepper. Then, in a beaut of irony, Culpepper is the one's who's damaged goods. We're also supposed to suspend belief and think franchises in Oakland, Baltimore and Detroit, also shopping for free-agent starting quarterbacks, thought they could do better by someone else. Although those nitwits in Oakland and Detroit probably did. Brees, meanwhile, has left Harry Connick Jr. in his contrails to become the Crescent City's newest fan fave ? proving he can DO DO THAT VOODOO with the best of them by channeling Joe Montana. Even with Brees, however, New Orleans looked to finish no better than a 6-10 or 7-9. So next, the Oswalds drafted USC running back Reggie Bush ? the NFL draft's consensus No. 1 pick. Note: This is extremely difficult to do when you're picking second. Unless ? Ta-Da ? the team (Houston) picking first inexplicably (that word again) selects the second-best player in the draft. While defensive end Mario Williams has played well for the Texans during an injury-hampered season, Bush has shined for the Oswalds in a multipurpose role. Shades of Patrick Ewing to the New York Knicks? An NFL make-up call? Was the then-Tagliabue-led football cabal employing a defibrillator on a franchise in danger of flat-lining? If you thought the fetid stench of conspiracy couldn't worsen, consider Marques Colston ? a seventh-round impact player (the 252nd of 255 players drafted) from Hofstra. Keep in mind that in today's NFL, seventh-round impact players come around as often as Haley's Comet. Despite a midseason ankle injury stalling his run for NFC Rookie of the Year, Colston still topped 1,000 yards receiving and has been an end zone regular for New Orleans. The NFL's official cover story is that the sophisticated scouting of 31 other teams let Colston (inexplicably?) slip through their fingers to the Oswald's good fortune. Who am I to complain, though? Everyone seems happy with what they're being fed. I only wonder what the NFL is cooking up for dessert?
January 14, 200719 yr Why hasn't Philly won a championship, then? The Eagles and Philadelphia are a huge market. And you still haven't commented on how you can be a fan if you think it's truly fixed. If only big markets win, how do you explain/justify the 49ers, New England and Baltimore winning Superbowls over the Giants, Jets, Oakland, Dallas, Philly, Green Bay?
January 14, 200719 yr fcuk andy reid for punting...f*** mat bryant....f*** this piss poo defnse....f*** it all... back to drinking.
January 14, 200719 yr fcuk andy reid for punting...f*** mat bryant....f*** this piss poo defnse....f*** it all... back to drinking. Sry man....really didn't make sense to me....oh well the Jags season ended on a David Garrard "tuck call" and of course the Pats got the call.
January 14, 200719 yr fcuk andy reid for punting...f*** mat bryant....f*** this piss poo defnse....f*** it all... back to drinking. Matt Bryant>you
January 14, 200719 yr I dont ask much in life.. all i ask is that i finish school, pay the bills, dont get an OWI or an STD and have my sports teams win. so please.. GO BEARS!! I really dont think ill be able to take a repeat from last years divisional game.
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