July 4, 200719 yr vargas' line with the mets vs. the rockies tonight: 3 1/3 innings pitched, 11 hits, 9er, 2bb, 2k. muts losing 11-3 right now in the 7th. just thought to share an ex-marlin's progress tonight.
July 4, 200719 yr That trade looks better for the Marlins everyday. I'd feel bad for Vargas, but he is wearing a Met uniform and I can only take pleasure in his misery.
July 4, 200719 yr ouch, his ERA's gonna take a hit. Such a shame too, because he had such a great ERA to begin with.
July 4, 200719 yr ouch, his ERA's gonna take a hit. Such a shame too, because he had such a great ERA to begin with. I know..there goes his shot at the ERA title. :confused
July 4, 200719 yr We'll stick with Lindstrom & Owens, thank you. You know, that Dodger game really was the end of his career. Shame. refresh my memory, did something happen in that game or he just got lit up?
July 4, 200719 yr We'll stick with Lindstrom & Owens, thank you. You know, that Dodger game really was the end of his career. Shame. refresh my memory, did something happen in that game or he just got lit up? CG, but he was never really the same after that. Looked gassed for the rest of the season. His sh*tty stuff sure didn't help but still...
July 4, 200719 yr We'll stick with Lindstrom & Owens, thank you. You know, that Dodger game really was the end of his career. Shame. refresh my memory, did something happen in that game or he just got lit up? It was a day game against LA, the bullpen was tired and Vargas had a shutout going, McKeon ran him out there after he was over 100 (110?) pitches and he started getting hit. Velocity dipped and he just was never the same after that.
July 4, 200719 yr We'll stick with Lindstrom & Owens, thank you. You know, that Dodger game really was the end of his career. Shame. refresh my memory, did something happen in that game or he just got lit up? It was a day game against LA, the bullpen was tired and Vargas had a shutout going, McKeon ran him out there after he was over 100 (110?) pitches and he started getting hit. Velocity dipped and he just was never the same after that. There's a chapter in Baseball Between the Numbers about catastrophic outings. It's a real shame what happened to him, but his stuff was average at best. Guy was playing so far over his head when he first debuted.
July 4, 200719 yr We'll stick with Lindstrom & Owens, thank you. You know, that Dodger game really was the end of his career. Shame. refresh my memory, did something happen in that game or he just got lit up? It was a day game against LA, the bullpen was tired and Vargas had a shutout going, McKeon ran him out there after he was over 100 (110?) pitches and he started getting hit. Velocity dipped and he just was never the same after that. There's a chapter in Baseball Between the Numbers about catastrophic outings. It's a real shame what happened to him, but his stuff was average at best. Guy was playing so far over his head when he first debuted. I mean, he was a second round pick and he did lose 3-4 MPH off his velocity after that game. I don't think he was average when he came in, but he certainly was average or below last year.
July 4, 200719 yr I got his autograph before last season and "Good luck with your season" and he looked dead into my eyes and said, "I suck". True story.
July 4, 200719 yr We'll stick with Lindstrom & Owens, thank you. You know, that Dodger game really was the end of his career. Shame. refresh my memory, did something happen in that game or he just got lit up? It was a day game against LA, the bullpen was tired and Vargas had a shutout going, McKeon ran him out there after he was over 100 (110?) pitches and he started getting hit. Velocity dipped and he just was never the same after that. There's a chapter in Baseball Between the Numbers about catastrophic outings. It's a real shame what happened to him, but his stuff was average at best. Guy was playing so far over his head when he first debuted. I mean, he was a second round pick and he did lose 3-4 MPH off his velocity after that game. I don't think he was average when he came in, but he certainly was average or below last year. His fastball has never been the same again
July 4, 200719 yr We'll stick with Lindstrom & Owens, thank you. You know, that Dodger game really was the end of his career. Shame. refresh my memory, did something happen in that game or he just got lit up? It was a day game against LA, the bullpen was tired and Vargas had a shutout going, McKeon ran him out there after he was over 100 (110?) pitches and he started getting hit. Velocity dipped and he just was never the same after that. Why the hell would you trot Vargas out when he's over even 90 pitches let alone 100? Stupid.
July 4, 200719 yr We'll stick with Lindstrom & Owens, thank you. You know, that Dodger game really was the end of his career. Shame. refresh my memory, did something happen in that game or he just got lit up? It was a day game against LA, the bullpen was tired and Vargas had a shutout going, McKeon ran him out there after he was over 100 (110?) pitches and he started getting hit. Velocity dipped and he just was never the same after that. He was closer to 120 than 110 if I remember right. Yep, just looked it up, 117 pitches that game. Up to and including the Dodger game, Vargas was 4-1 with a 2.43 ERA, 1.08 WHIP and .179/.281/.254 line against hitters. After the Dodger game, he was 1-4 with a 5.65 ERA, 1.71 WHIP, and .311/.375/.503 line against hitters. That game absolutely destroyed poor Jason. Granted, I am inclined to think that Jason's potential is(or was) somewhere between that amazing 1st stretch and awful 2nd stretch, but he had the ability to be a better than average starter at this level. Not sure if he will ever make it back to that.
July 4, 200719 yr I got his autograph before last season and "Good luck with your season" and he looked dead into my eyes and said, "I suck". True story. Whoah, that would have surprised me. lol
July 4, 200719 yr I got his autograph before last season and "Good luck with your season" and he looked dead into my eyes and said, "I suck". True story. what'd you say to that? Sounds like he has some superb self-confidence..aww..
July 4, 200719 yr I got his autograph before last season and "Good luck with your season" and he looked dead into my eyes and said, "I suck". True story. Whoah, that would have surprised me. lol :crying
July 4, 200719 yr Jason Vargas' signature on a baseball diminishes its value. crap. I got Vargas to SS a couple of baseballs for me when he was doin' well. maybe i'll sell them to a mut fan.
July 4, 200719 yr I should really have put (just joking) next to my sentence, my bad to people who believed my story. I did get his auto though and the only thing he said was "Thanks".
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