July 22, 200719 yr In a Sports Illustrated poll of 464 big-leaguers, the Marlins' Jeffrey Loria finished second in the ''worst owner'' category (19 percent), behind Kansas City's David Glass (21 percent), likely because of Florida's low payroll. Players couldn't vote for their own owner -- George Steinbrenner was named the best owner -- but Loria has ingratiated himself to some Marlins by offering encouragement, taking them to dinner (like Dan Uggla when he was struggling earlier this year), or buying them gifts occasionally. (When Josh Beckett once said he liked Loria's shirt, Loria gave him one the next day.) Loria ranked next to last by MLB player survey Anyone now think that this ownership doesn't affect how we can attract FA's in the future ?
July 22, 200719 yr Anyone else think marlinz_fan looks like Stewie in his avatar? Free agents don't care as long as you show them the money.
July 22, 200719 yr Author Anyone else think marlinz_fan looks like Stewie in his avatar? Free agents don't care as long as you show them the money. Festa, why take a shot ? Can't you just discuss the matter at hand ? The fact is Loria will forever be a detriment to this franchise ever being a champion again. No one wants to play for him.
July 22, 200719 yr Anyone else think marlinz_fan looks like Stewie in his avatar? Free agents don't care as long as you show them the money. Festa, why take a shot ? Can't you just discuss the matter at hand ? The fact is Loria will forever be a detriment to this franchise ever being a champion again. No one wants to play for him. Ivan Rodriguez Carlos Delgado Mike Lowell Luis Castillo Paul LoDuca Armando Benitez etc. etc. etc. Think overwise.
July 22, 200719 yr Author Anyone else think marlinz_fan looks like Stewie in his avatar? Free agents don't care as long as you show them the money. Festa, why take a shot ? Can't you just discuss the matter at hand ? The fact is Loria will forever be a detriment to this franchise ever being a champion again. No one wants to play for him. Ivan Rodriguez Carlos Delgado Mike Lowell Luis Castillo Paul LoDuca Armando Benitez etc. etc. etc. Think overwise. Actually Lowell and Castillo weren't true FA's, because of already played for the Marlins. Of those listed all were traded away or left on their own within 2 years of signing a contract. The Lowell & Delgado salary dumps & the avowed cheapness of Loria have and will continue to hurt the ability to sign true IN THEIR PRIME free agents. We are doomed. Contraction or a move is inevitable.
July 22, 200719 yr If Lowell, LoDuca and Castillo didn't want to play for Loria they would have left. Is that you Heywood Jablowme/Cant Catch Me?
July 22, 200719 yr Author true...inevitably...we will move into a retractable roof stadium in miami In a fantasy league perhaps, but not in real life.
July 22, 200719 yr I think the role played by an owner has a very small effect on a players decision on picking a certain team. More like manager, surrounding cast, location, ect.
July 22, 200719 yr If you can't vote for your own owner, it's basically big payroll + winning = wins. Getting someone here is just about opening the checkbook.
July 23, 200719 yr In a Sports Illustrated poll of 464 big-leaguers, the Marlins' Jeffrey Loria finished second in the ''worst owner'' category (19 percent), behind Kansas City's David Glass (21 percent), likely because of Florida's low payroll. Players couldn't vote for their own owner -- George Steinbrenner was named the best owner -- but Loria has ingratiated himself to some Marlins by offering encouragement, taking them to dinner (like Dan Uggla when he was struggling earlier this year), or buying them gifts occasionally. (When Josh Beckett once said he liked Loria's shirt, Loria gave him one the next day.) Loria ranked next to last by MLB player survey Anyone now think that this ownership doesn't affect how we can attract FA's in the future ? Wouldn't one must first accept the premise that free agents can be disenchanted with a team's offer or future because of its owner?
July 23, 200719 yr I dont think ownership really plays that much of a role...Id have to say that our low attendance numbers have a much much much bigger affect on if a player signs with us or not.
July 23, 200719 yr In a Sports Illustrated poll of 464 big-leaguers, the Marlins' Jeffrey Loria finished second in the ''worst owner'' category (19 percent), behind Kansas City's David Glass (21 percent), likely because of Florida's low payroll. Players couldn't vote for their own owner -- George Steinbrenner was named the best owner -- but Loria has ingratiated himself to some Marlins by offering encouragement, taking them to dinner (like Dan Uggla when he was struggling earlier this year), or buying them gifts occasionally. (When Josh Beckett once said he liked Loria's shirt, Loria gave him one the next day.) Loria ranked next to last by MLB player survey Anyone now think that this ownership doesn't affect how we can attract FA's in the future ? Wouldn't one must first accept the premise that free agents can be disenchanted with a team's offer or future because of its owner? Now now RFerry, don't be logical. Shame on you.
July 23, 200719 yr I dont think ownership really plays that much of a role... Try to tell Pirates fans that one.
July 23, 200719 yr I think the role played by an owner has a very small effect on a players decision on picking a certain team. More like manager, surrounding cast, location, ect. MONEY AND ONLY MONEY Fixed.
July 23, 200719 yr I dont think ownership really plays that much of a role... Try to tell Pirates fans that one. I blame your GM more than your owner. Although, combined with eachother, they create a giant mutant made up of something awful.
July 23, 200719 yr The players hate him because he's trying to ruin the Marlins and move them back to Montreal, right?
July 23, 200719 yr I think the role played by an owner has a very small effect on a players decision on picking a certain team. More like manager, surrounding cast, location, ect. MONEY AND ONLY MONEY Fixed. When that opinion formed of ballplayers in response to free agency, there was probably some truth to it, but as players are guaranteed comfortable salaries earlier, other factors (including in some regard, a team's owner) play a large role. But you're probably right. Respect = salary in most eyes. (Yes, I just contradicted myself. Sue me.)
July 23, 200719 yr The Marlins organization has shown the ability to gather a mix of talented players, and any veteran who knows anything about the Fish should know that they have a good chance to compete when being on the team. But the Marlins don't have enough money or aren't willing to spend enough to lure free agents to this ball club. Forget the Carlos Delgado signing - we probably won't see another one of those in some time. Loria's wallet has tightened in the last two years. But really its not about the owner, but how much money is being offered. I bet players love Mr. Steinbrenner for his money, not so much for his glowing personality.
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