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Congratulations on further lowering the bar for Hall of Fame standards, Mr. Dawson. Your career .806 OPS, coming in at 362nd all time, truly shows how you deserve this honor. 165th all time in Slugging percentage, and not in the top 1,000 all time in On Base Percentage. Mazel tov!

 

Yea. Jim Rice was bad, this is horrible.

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Congratulations on further lowering the bar for Hall of Fame standards, Mr. Dawson. Your career .806 OPS, coming in at 362nd all time, truly shows how you deserve this honor. 165th all time in Slugging percentage, and not in the top 1,000 all time in On Base Percentage. Mazel tov!

 

Yea. Jim Rice was bad, this is horrible.

 

At least Dawson played good defense and was around for a while.

 

I'll never understand Rice getting in when Albert Belle was off the ballot after one year, and then Dawson getting in and Dwight Evans being off after three years and never getting more than 10% of the vote. Stupid.

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My unpopular opinion of the day:

 

Cal Ripken Jr. is not a HOFer.

 

 

Yeah, I can't get on board with this.

 

Redefined the SS position and was basically an .800 OPS bat for his career, while retiring with the most home runs for his position in history (I believe).

 

Yeah, the streak overrates him, but he was absolute a hall of famer.

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He was good enough and eventually developed into a strong defensive player at SS and he had a very strong arm.

 

But he redefined it offensively, that's what I meant. Alex Rodriguez doesn't play SS if Ripken didn't.

 

I only buy that if he was elite defensively. He wasn't. Putting him on a pedestal because offense was lacking at SS at the time is ridiculous, in my opinion. With the arrival of the era of the long ball, power hitting SS was destined to happen anyway.

 

Dawson was at least a legitimate tool player.

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He was good enough and eventually developed into a strong defensive player at SS and he had a very strong arm.

 

But he redefined it offensively, that's what I meant. Alex Rodriguez doesn't play SS if Ripken didn't.

 

I only buy that if he was elite defensively. He wasn't. Putting him on a pedestal because offense was lacking at SS at the time is ridiculous, in my opinion. With the arrival of the era of the long ball, power hitting SS was destined to happen anyway.

 

Dawson was at least a legitimate tool player.

 

I think you are significantly underrating Ripken's defense. He was a pretty good defensive shortstop until he started losing range, and he had a very strong arm and was very accurate.

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Congratulations on further lowering the bar for Hall of Fame standards, Mr. Dawson. Your career .806 OPS, coming in at 362nd all time, truly shows how you deserve this honor. 165th all time in Slugging percentage, and not in the top 1,000 all time in On Base Percentage. Mazel tov!

 

 

Congrats, crawl back to your hole that is that other board and don't bother to write a post card. ;).

 

Whether it takes you 100 times or just one, it's an outstanding accomplishment none the less.

 

By your standards those who felt Alomar wasn't a first ballot hall of famer and those who felt larkin and martinez didn't deserve it either the first go around should just swallow their ballot next year like you guys swallow the "Male Appendage".

 

Please, lol. Get real.

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What the hell are you talking about?

 

My gripe with Dawson has everything to do with his deficiencies as a player, and nothing to do with how long he's been on the ballot. I don't have a problem with a guy being on the ballot for 15 years and making it in the last.

 

May I suggest that you try reading what you write before hitting "Post", so that maybe it will make some sense?

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What the hell are you talking about?

 

My gripe with Dawson has everything to do with his deficiencies as a player, and nothing to do with how long he's been on the ballot. I don't have a problem with a guy being on the ballot for 15 years and making it in the last.

 

May I suggest that you try reading what you write before hitting "Post", so that maybe it will make some sense?

 

 

I read just fine, trust me.

 

May I suggest you crawl into another hole?

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What the hell are you talking about?

 

My gripe with Dawson has everything to do with his deficiencies as a player, and nothing to do with how long he's been on the ballot. I don't have a problem with a guy being on the ballot for 15 years and making it in the last.

 

May I suggest that you try reading what you write before hitting "Post", so that maybe it will make some sense?

 

 

I read just fine, trust me.

 

May I suggest you crawl into another hole?

 

I don't think you read fine, because your last two posts make no god damned sense.

 

Like, is your point that because I post on SFM I shouldn't also post here? That's stupid.

 

If that isn't your point, I can't tell what it is because you seem to be speaking in some sort of code that only people who have suffered some sort of major head trauma can understand.

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Congratulations on further lowering the bar for Hall of Fame standards, Mr. Dawson. Your career .806 OPS, coming in at 362nd all time, truly shows how you deserve this honor. 165th all time in Slugging percentage, and not in the top 1,000 all time in On Base Percentage. Mazel tov!

 

Lou Boudreau, probably the worst HoF selection ever, got in with a .795 OPS so the standard was already at Dawson's level.

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Congratulations on further lowering the bar for Hall of Fame standards, Mr. Dawson. Your career .806 OPS, coming in at 362nd all time, truly shows how you deserve this honor. 165th all time in Slugging percentage, and not in the top 1,000 all time in On Base Percentage. Mazel tov!

 

Lou Boudreau, probably the worst HoF selection ever, got in with a .795 OPS so the standard was already at Dawson's level.

 

A SS in the 1950's with a .795 > OF in the 1980's with .806, all other things being equal.

 

Also, he had an MVP season with 98 walks and 9 strikeouts, which is HOF worthy.

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Congratulations on further lowering the bar for Hall of Fame standards, Mr. Dawson. Your career .806 OPS, coming in at 362nd all time, truly shows how you deserve this honor. 165th all time in Slugging percentage, and not in the top 1,000 all time in On Base Percentage. Mazel tov!

 

Lou Boudreau, probably the worst HoF selection ever, got in with a .795 OPS so the standard was already at Dawson's level.

 

A SS in the 1950's with a .795 > OF in the 1980's with .806, all other things being equal.

Boudreau was a very average player who had three good seasons in which he hit above .300 in his prime, just like Dawson. Boudreau got in solely because of his MVP season, kind of like how Dawson got in solely because of his ROY and MVP.

 

I'm not saying he should be there but my point was the standard was there. Dawson didn't lower it much, if at all.

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