Hammerhead Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 After three-and-a-half days of deliberating, the jury for the Barry Bonds perjury trial has reached a verdict, but only on one out of four counts: the all-time leader in home runs has been found guilty of obstruction of justice. The jury has said they are split on the other counts that Bonds was charged with and are therefore deadlocked. Three of the four counts charged Bonds with lying in front of a federal grand jury: once when he said he never knowingly got steroids from his trainer Greg Anderson, once when he denied getting HGH from Anderson, and once when he claimed that nobody but his doctors injected him. The fourth count, however, was for the more benign-sounding obstruction of justice. On this, the jury agreed with the government's case that Bonds was slippery and evasive in his answers. Strange, then, that they could not agree on whether he lied to the grand jury but that they all figured he was probably being vague and stonewalling for some reason. Bonds faces up to 10 years in prison on the one count but is likely to receive a far softer sentence, even as cushy as a few months of home confinement. Considering his brusque, antisocial manner and general disdain for humanity, that might be the best thing that happened to Barry in a long time. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Barry-Bounds-found-guilty-on-obstruction-of-just?urn=mlb-wp2828 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 what a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 No wayz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 The other charges weren't dismissed... I don't think... I call mystikol87 to the stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Our long national nightmare is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 What a waste of money and time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I don't even understand how he can be convicted of obstruction of justice in this own trial when he is under no obligation to answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watertown_kid Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Watch the judge set aside this verdict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 The other charges weren't dismissed... I don't think... I call mystikol87 to the stand. I really don't known anything about this. The ESPN article said that the judge declared a mistrial as to the other 3 counts, but I don't know what comes next.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I don't even understand how he can be convicted of obstruction of justice in this own trial when he is under no obligation to answer Pretty sure he was convicted of obstruction of justice in the BALCO investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I don't get it. Why is this all legally relevant to anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I don't get it. Why is this all legally relevant to anything? You don't get why he's guilty of a crime? Obstruction of justice is a pretty serious issue. You can't deliberately fudge evidence of a crime, or do similar things which make the job of the justice system more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 So now there should be no more * talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I don't get it. Why is this all legally relevant to anything? You don't get why he's guilty of a crime? Obstruction of justice is a pretty serious issue. You can't deliberately fudge evidence of a crime, or do similar things which make the job of the justice system more difficult. No, I mean. What was the crime to begin with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I don't get it. Why is this all legally relevant to anything? You don't get why he's guilty of a crime? Obstruction of justice is a pretty serious issue. You can't deliberately fudge evidence of a crime, or do similar things which make the job of the justice system more difficult. No, I mean. What was the crime to begin with? I misspoke. It doesn't have to be an investigation of a "crime" that you obstruct; it can be a civil case, as well. Bonds's charges, I believe, were tied to his conduct with BALCO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I don't get it. Why is this all legally relevant to anything? You don't get why he's guilty of a crime? Obstruction of justice is a pretty serious issue. You can't deliberately fudge evidence of a crime, or do similar things which make the job of the justice system more difficult. No, I mean. What was the crime to begin with? I misspoke. It doesn't have to be an investigation of a "crime" that you obstruct; it can be a civil case, as well. Bonds's charges, I believe, were tied to his conduct with BALCO. I was under the impression that there was some sort of a crime committed in all of this. I mean, Congress even stepped in and started giving their opinion and sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Wrong mystikol. Barry Bonds obstructed the justice of BASEBALL!!!!!1one!111!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I don't get it. Why is this all legally relevant to anything? You don't get why he's guilty of a crime? Obstruction of justice is a pretty serious issue. You can't deliberately fudge evidence of a crime, or do similar things which make the job of the justice system more difficult. No, I mean. What was the crime to begin with? I misspoke. It doesn't have to be an investigation of a "crime" that you obstruct; it can be a civil case, as well. Bonds's charges, I believe, were tied to his conduct with BALCO. I was under the impression that there was some sort of a crime committed in all of this. I mean, Congress even stepped in and started giving their opinion and sh*t. Obstruction of justice and perjury were the charges. He allegedly lied to a grand jury during a federal investigation regarding the BALCO training facility's connection to illegal steroids. Obstruction of justice likely has a lesser burden of proof than perjury, which is why he was only convicted on that charge. The judge likely dismissed the other charges on account of the jury being unable to come to a verdict. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Oh ok. I didn't really follow this at all, so I was just under the impression that all of this was because they cheated :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I don't even understand how he can be convicted of obstruction of justice in this own trial when he is under no obligation to answer Pretty sure he was convicted of obstruction of justice in the BALCO investigation. Which, if he had no immunity and it pertained to illegal substances, Bonds was not under any obligation to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 From what I understand, he was convicted of obstruction of justice for his reponses to the grand jury investigating his use of PEDs. He was found guilty of supposedly giving evasive answers in an effort to impede the investigation. I guess he should have taken the 5th. But if he responds, he should respond truthfully. The jury was deadlocked in the three other charges which all were that he perjured himself in the grand jury testimony. In one of the charges (perjuring himself regarding whether he received shots from anyone other than his doctor) the jury was deadlocked 11-1 in favor of guilty and in the two other charges (perjuring himself by saying he never knowingly used PEDs) the jury was deadlocked in favor of not guilty 8-4 and 9-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I don't even understand how he can be convicted of obstruction of justice in this own trial when he is under no obligation to answer Pretty sure he was convicted of obstruction of justice in the BALCO investigation. Which, if he had no immunity and it pertained to illegal substances, Bonds was not under any obligation to answer. And as Out of the Park noted, if he did answer the questions, he is obligated to answer them truthfully. He did not have to answer them, but he did. That's the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Looks like Bonds will have to get used to having things shoved into his ass other than syringes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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