February 15, 201214 yr Go and read Landover and tell me that's their goal. Go and find someone with a Spaghetti Monster bumper sticker and see if that's why they have it. The majority of these people simply have a superiority complex. Landover is the equivalent of someone locking themselves in a bathroom and talking about how great they are to themselves in the mirror. It accomplishes nothing. It's satire, man. The point is to humorously point out the absurdity of those types of Southern Baptist churches.
February 15, 201214 yr Go and read Landover and tell me that's their goal. Go and find someone with a Spaghetti Monster bumper sticker and see if that's why they have it. The majority of these people simply have a superiority complex. Landover is the equivalent of someone locking themselves in a bathroom and talking about how great they are to themselves in the mirror. It accomplishes nothing. It's satire, man. The point is to humorously point out the absurdity of those types of Southern Baptist churches. 15 years of satire where people devote more of their time than we do to MarlinsBaseball? Hardly humor anymore.
February 15, 201214 yr I dunno man. we spend a lot of time on MarlinsBaseball. also, I'm not wasting my time seeing what the hell the Landover church is. I don't care what those dumb dumbs are doing.
February 15, 201214 yr the point I'm trying to make is that an atheist has no reason to care about religion. seriously? & yeah back on topic, while I did always wonder why Santorum didn't get a little more support, I would not have predicted he would outpoll Romney at this stage. It's pretty stunning.
February 15, 201214 yr Seriously. in a world where like 85% of the population didn't base their entire lives on their religions, sure. f***ing retarded.
February 15, 201214 yr Seriously. I'll let someone else do this. This is terrible reasoning. poptart 4:30 am? wtf man.
February 15, 201214 yr The flying spaghetti monster exists because religious groups sought to influence public policy. They argued that since evolution is not 100% proven, then one should teach Christian creationism against it. If one is using negative logic like this, then that opens the door to a lot of things as potential theories, including FSM. Atheists only seek to alter the debate because religious institutions have controlled public policy for years. Why does the Catholic church claim to have a high power to speak on the issue of birth control in health insurance? Because they cite to the bible. If you’re citing to religious authority, you’re opening the door to doubt for that authority.
February 15, 201214 yr So Santorum is beating Romney now nationally. Romney is in much deeper sh*t than I thought a month ago. People really don't like the guy. I think Santorum is almost certain to lose the general election if he gets the nomination because he has little appeal among independents. Romney is going to dumb all his cash to stop this. Wonder if it hurts him though.
February 15, 201214 yr Seriously. I'll let someone else do this. This is terrible reasoning. poptart 4:30 am? wtf man. You're right. One without a religion should be infatuated with religion. Excellent reasoning.
February 15, 201214 yr jesus christ... so, by that logic, people who don't own guns can't be anti-gun? people who don't have kids can't have a stance on contraception?
February 15, 201214 yr Well except this argument is particularly pointed at a single group of people. You're making it sound as if Landover Baptist is some politically motivated group. It's not. It's a bunch of jackasses who can't get over the fact that religion exists.
February 15, 201214 yr jesus christ... so, by that logic, people who don't own guns can't be anti-gun? people who don't have kids can't have a stance on contraception? People that have never been taught about firearms have no fundamental understanding of their function, or what actually consitutes gun safety, thus such persons being anti-gun is, at best, a position of ignorance. People without children should lay off on telling people how to raise them. All that said, regardless of your own faith (or lack their of), you should pretty much leave other people alone. The only time somebody else's beliefs should enter into it is if those beliefs fundamentally impact your rights. (such as Creationism education). "In God We Trust" or "Under God" or "Merry Christmas" - if that is your problem, do everyone a favor and STFU.
February 15, 201214 yr jesus christ... so, by that logic, people who don't own guns can't be anti-gun? people who don't have kids can't have a stance on contraception? People that have never been taught about firearms have no fundamental understanding of their function, or what actually consitutes gun safety, thus such persons being anti-gun is, at best, a position of ignorance. People without children should lay off on telling people how to raise them. All that said, regardless of your own faith (or lack their of), you should pretty much leave other people alone. The only time somebody else's beliefs should enter into it is if those beliefs fundamentally impact your rights. (such as Creationism education). "In God We Trust" or "Under God" or "Merry Christmas" - if that is your problem, do everyone a favor and STFU. Why is there a presumption in favor of religious people, though? I mean, it happens because they're the majority, but it's stupid. It should be: "If a lack of prayer or religion inserted into [public] events, speeches, items, etc. is your problem, do everyone a favor and STFU.
February 15, 201214 yr Breaking News: CNN/ORC International Poll: President Obama's approval rating is up to 50% for the first time in more than eight months. peace out, Republicans
February 16, 201214 yr Seriously. I'll let someone else do this. This is terrible reasoning. poptart 4:30 am? wtf man. You're right. One without a religion should be infatuated with religion. Excellent reasoning. right because that's what I said, infatuated with it. If you'd have just left it at "man those Landover guys sure are nutty!" then yeah sure, okay. and to echo Eric somewhat, yes as a general rule everyone should pretty much try & leave other people alone. I'm at a point in my life where I don't much care what someone else believes. And in a perfect world it wouldn't matter. Neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no god, as Jefferson would say. But we're not operating in a vaccum here, there's a bit of history. and to be educated and informed about religion and to be knowledgeable about its role and power in society, government, etc, is not a bad thing. Sure the satire can be biting. I don't find the "you're probably going to hell" stuff particularly endearing either, so there we are.
February 16, 201214 yr Seriously. I'll let someone else do this. This is terrible reasoning. poptart 4:30 am? wtf man. You're right. One without a religion should be infatuated with religion. Excellent reasoning. right because that's what I said, infatuated with it. If you'd have just left it at "man those Landover guys sure are nutty!" then yeah sure, whatever. and to echo Eric somewhat, yes as a general rule everyone should pretty much try & leave other people alone. Neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no god, as Jefferson would say. But we're not operating in a vaccum here. and to be educated and informed about religion and to be knowledgeable about its role and power in society, government, etc, is not a bad thing. Sure the satire can be biting. I don't find the "you're probably going to hell" stuff particularly endearing either, so there we are. You're giving them much more credit than they deserve. They're nothing more than a bunch of internet trolls looking for some laughs. It's got nothing to do with education, politics, roles in society, etc. and it serves no purpose. It's a mockery.
February 16, 201214 yr I'm not giving Landover any credit. I'd never even heard of them before they were mentioned here. If you'd left it at Landover I wouldn't have bothered. But you had to go and expand it out to "atheists shouldn't care about religion" which is what I called a dumb statement.
February 16, 201214 yr I'm not giving Landover any credit. I'd never even heard of them before they were mentioned here. If you'd left it at Landover I wouldn't have bothered. But you had to go and expand it out to "atheists shouldn't care about religion" which is what I called a dumb statement. Well then you're taking it out of context of the topic of discussion! I was already referring to Landover and Spaghetti Monster collectively.
February 16, 201214 yr Okay perhaps I shouldn't have strayed too far now that I re-read, but still. I was going after that general concept of those particular kind of atheists.
February 16, 201214 yr fair enough, I'm not really fond of the militant atheist guys either. although I do kinda like Spaghetti Monster. there's a lot of clubs I don't belong to, doesn't mean I shouldn't know something about them or can't have an opinion on them. How about "you can have an opinion, just don't be an ass about it." i could live with that.
February 16, 201214 yr [Why is there a presumption in favor of religious people, though? I mean, it happens because they're the majority, but it's stupid. It should be: "If a lack of prayer or religion inserted into [public] events, speeches, items, etc. is your problem, do everyone a favor and STFU. Are we talking about a mandated exclusion, or just the guy giving the speech didn't include it?
February 16, 201214 yr [Why is there a presumption in favor of religious people, though? I mean, it happens because they're the majority, but it's stupid. It should be: "If a lack of prayer or religion inserted into [public] events, speeches, items, etc. is your problem, do everyone a favor and STFU. Are we talking about a mandated exclusion, or just the guy giving the speech didn't include it? Could you clarify? I'm not sure what you're referring to here.
February 16, 201214 yr "If a lack of prayer or religion inserted into [public] events, speeches, items, etc. is your problem, do everyone a favor and STFU." Are you talking about a prohibition on prayer or religion inserted into events, items, speeches, etc.? Or just some event, item or speech that does not have any prayer or religion inserted into it? I have a big problem with the former and no problem whatsoever with the latter.
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