That's my thought, too. I mean it's one thing if you have the joke going, but nobody breaks character there. It'd be like if everyone at MB.com were just one big sarcastic joke and that we're all actually Yankees fans.

 

... you weren't supposed to tell anyone.

I broke character :|

Google it. It's somewhat funny, somewhat scary.

 

wow...it is sad to me that somebody is willing to put in that much time and effort in just to make a mockery of something.

 

And the Satire has gotten more mean-spirited as time has gone on. This site has been running for like 14-15 years at least.

Don't really see the problem there.

I just think it's really, really stupid. It's a bunch of people who can't get over themselves. Y'know... like a joke that's just been carried on for far too long?

 

I'm not religious at all btw, so there's that.

I think many religious institutions in America are pretty disgusting, so anything that attempts to point that out isn't going to get a ton of criticism from me.

 

Plus, it's probably become a pretty profitable enterprise for them, so more power to them.

I mean... an atheist on a mission is pretty much a contradiction. That's another reason why I can't stand it. Atheists shouldn't give a sh*t.

I mean... an atheist on a mission is pretty much a contradiction. That's another reason why I can't stand it. Atheists shouldn't give a sh*t.

 

What? Why can't atheists support a cause, especially an anti-religious one?

Atheism has become a religion of not having a religion. That's not what it's supposed to be.

depends what stupid f***ing athiests you've been talking to

Atheism has become a religion of not having a religion. That's not what it's supposed to be.

 

 

That's silly.

 

Atheism is not a set, defined worldview. That, above all else, is what separates it from religion. So there's nothing that atheism is or isn't supposed to be.

Atheism has become a religion of not having a religion. That's not what it's supposed to be.

 

 

That's silly.

 

Atheism is not a set, defined worldview. That, above all else, is what separates it from religion. So there's nothing that atheism is or isn't supposed to be.

And regardless of whether it's a religion unto itself or not, I don't see why atheists can't then take up an anti-religious cause.

 

I personally have no desire to lobby religious people about why they "ought" to come over to my side, but even that isn't fundamentally inconsistent.

 

On the other hand, you could maybe make that argument about agnosticism, but even they could choose to take up an anti-religious cause, say, because they think any religious beliefs or lack thereof is silly compared to agnosticism. (Again, not my view, but I've heard it said before.)

depends what stupid f***ing athiests you've been talking to

 

 

The same stupid ones who post on the Landover Baptist Church website. That's my point.

depends what stupid f***ing athiests you've been talking to

 

 

The same stupid ones who post on the Landover Baptist Church website. That's my point.

I don't read their website, and you may think that it's a stupid waste of time, but I still don't see how it's inconsistent with atheism.

 

edit: that's a pretty big typo: "inconsistent with atheism" is what I intended to say. Still don't agree with Dr. B here, though.

depends what stupid f***ing athiests you've been talking to

 

 

The same stupid ones who post on the Landover Baptist Church website. That's my point.

I don't read their website, and you may think that it's a stupid waste of time, but I still don't see how it's consistent with atheism.

 

Landover Baptist is a website that is consistent with the whole 'Spaghetti Monster' mock religion that atheists use to... mock religion. That is literally a case where a bunch of atheists have made atheism a cult-ish religion based upon bashing religion.

Landover Baptist is a website that is consistent with the whole 'Spaghetti Monster' mock religion that atheists use to... mock religion. That is literally a case where a bunch of atheists have made atheism a cult-ish religion based upon bashing religion.

 

 

I do not think your characterization of it as a "cult-ish religion" is accurate.

I don't know what you're getting at.

Religions are based on the belief in a diety, no? That is not what atheists are doing. So characterizing that group as a religion is not accurate.

Religions are based on the belief in a diety, no? That is not what atheists are doing. So characterizing that group as a religion is not accurate.

 

 

Umm... what exactly is the Spaghetti Monster? Of course it's being sarcastic. I never said otherwise. The point being that religions are collective of their believers because such a religion exists because a god exists. If atheism means that they do not believe a god exists, why is there this collective group of atheists teaming up with some common goal or objective in mind? Nonetheless, it seems like they can't get over the fact that it religion itself exists. In such a situation, they've grouped up and made a mock religion (a religion nonetheless) because they can't get over the fact that people don't agree with them.

 

If atheism is lack of a god, should it not also be lack of purpose? Why do they care so much about religion if they have none? Should n't a real atheist just not care? He or she does not have a/believe in a god, and so there shouldn't be any reason to meet with or group with other atheists. If religion were to be represented by a number, atheism isn't simply zero. It's undefined. It has no definition. There's no common ground between one atheist and another.

 

The whole sarcastic joke of mock religion figuratively makes atheism a religion that believes in a nonexistent god. Still, a religion. They ought to get over themselves. It's somewhat contradictory and obnoxious.

 

I mean... am I atheist? Maybe? Agnostic? Maybe? I certainly don't believe in organized religion, and I am much a man of science. But do I go around set to prove that religion doesn't exist? Do I organize a group of people to on me on an excursion to disprove a god when in fact I cannot disprove it just as much as they cannot prove it?

anyone who "believes in atheism" or whatever is a moron

 

atheists wouldn't have anything to say about religion/god if it wasn't for religious people who prompt them to speak or start issues in the name of religion

Religions are based on the belief in a diety, no? That is not what atheists are doing. So characterizing that group as a religion is not accurate.

 

 

Umm... what exactly is the Spaghetti Monster? Of course it's being sarcastic. I never said otherwise. The point being that religions are collective of their believers because such a religion exists because a god exists. If atheism means that they do not believe a god exists, why is there this collective group of atheists teaming up with some common goal or objective in mind? Nonetheless, it seems like they can't get over the fact that it religion itself exists. In such a situation, they've grouped up and made a mock religion (a religion nonetheless) because they can't get over the fact that people don't agree with them.

 

If atheism is lack of a god, should it not also be lack of purpose? Why do they care so much about religion if they have none? Should n't a real atheist just not care? He or she does not have a/believe in a god, and so there shouldn't be any reason to meet with or group with other atheists. If religion were to be represented by a number, atheism isn't simply zero. It's undefined. It has no definition. There's no common ground between one atheist and another.

 

The whole sarcastic joke of mock religion figuratively makes atheism a religion that believes in a nonexistent god. Still, a religion. They ought to get over themselves. It's somewhat contradictory and obnoxious.

 

I mean... am I atheist? Maybe? Agnostic? Maybe? I certainly don't believe in organized religion, and I am much a man of science. But do I go around set to prove that religion doesn't exist? Do I organize a group of people to on me on an excursion to disprove a god when in fact I cannot disprove it just as much as they cannot prove it?

 

I'm not sure I understand your argument.

 

Groups can get together without being religions. If a group of atheists has gotten together to mock religion, that isn't a religion. It's a group of people united in a cause.

 

Whether you agree with that cause is something else altogether. But it doesn't make them hypocrites.

anyone who "believes in atheism" or whatever is a moron

 

atheists wouldn't have anything to say about religion/god if it wasn't for religious people who prompt them to speak or start issues in the name of religion

 

 

Something tells me that Landover Baptist Church isn't one massive response to religious people prompting atheists to speak/start issues in the name of religion. That's atheists speaking up themselves.

I'm not sure I understand your argument.

 

Groups can get together without being religions. If a group of atheists has gotten together to mock religion, that isn't a religion. It's a group of people united in a cause.

 

Whether you agree with that cause is something else altogether. But it doesn't make them hypocrites.

 

 

Depends on how you look at it. If atheism is literally without religion, they're spending an awful lot of time saturating their lives with religion in order to disprove it.

 

No, they do not actually have a religion themselves, but the point I'm trying to make is that an atheist has no reason to care about religion. Anti-religious efforts such as Landover Baptist and Spaghetti Monster are, without a doubt, efforts that bring more and more religion into the daily lives of those so called atheists.

 

Hypocritical? Perhaps not then. Counter productive? On a scale of religion, I really see atheists as, well, divided by zero. They simply don't exist on such a scale. Perhaps paradoxical would be a better word.

No, they do not actually have a religion themselves, but the point I'm trying to make is that an atheist has no reason to care about religion.

 

 

Unless they believe that the religious and their institutions have a deleterious effect on society as a whole.

Go and read Landover and tell me that's their goal. Go and find someone with a Spaghetti Monster bumper sticker and see if that's why they have it.

 

The majority of these people simply have a superiority complex. Landover is the equivalent of someone locking themselves in a bathroom and talking about how great they are to themselves in the mirror. It accomplishes nothing.