Nope. But for totally different reasons than already stated here. Not even a partial plan. Just buy at the box office or on StubHub when we want to go.

 

You mean you won't be a better fan than us next year?!

 

Actually, I've always said I don't know how you judge someone's "fandom." It's just the small minded posters that inhabit these boards that turned that around.

 

But, whatever.....

I was just messing with you, to be honest. I have no problems with you. You have season tickets, cool! Good work, fan Jealous I am.

Nice tickets on stubhub go for pennies the day of

 

 

I picked up two tickets on stub hub for 60 last night (For the 8/15 PHI game) and sat 6 rows up in section 10 by home plate.

 

Definatly seats can be had cheaper, but the trick is to support the team with season ticket sales WHEN it is convienent. No point in over extending your budget. I got season seats in 324 this year, but upgraded my opening day tickets to section 7 and just moved around the other games. They weren't exactly strict if you werent greedy on where you moved to, they partially encouraged it. I moved from section 324 to right on the LF line one game (Pirates). You can also go to guest services and pay for ticket upgrades, which I've done twice as well.

 

Stub hub is an excellent resourse, expecially for early day games and weekday games.

 

I took pride in buying season seats, and face it- that stadium is beautiful. Any seat in there is worth going for.

 

It's never been a secret that they base the payroll ALOT on how season tickets go. They can make educated guesses on other income off that. Food, parking, etc..... "Money coming in will equal money going out." They live by that, and I think it is a smart move. It's a biz.

 

You can tell just from this thread that what I have been saying all year is probably going to happen. Season ticket sales will drop quite a bit next year. This year's team not panning out will have something to do with it, but it was inevitable for many other reasons. I don't see the payroll ever dropping to what it has been in the past, but I think it will be quite some time before it reaches what it was Opening Day this year. I hope they surprise me.

 

I don't know, one part of me says they are likely to reinvest in players this year trying to find a roster that looks good on paper and has a track record of "Professional" success. Hanley may have been a success at one point, but he was hardly professional. Jose Reyes seems to have been Hanley's Antithesis. Buerhle is a consummete professional, and he was low risk in my mind, we need more of that. Michael Bourn fits that pedigree if I remember correctly. Possibly Josh Hamiltion however he is battlng his own demons.

 

Players we sign long term should be mature, Hanley was anything but. LoMo is immature but capaple of pulling it together with his military background. Stanton's already there.

 

If only David Wright would slow down to a .180 hitter the rest of the way, I'd love the Mets not to use their option and Mr. Met become the next Mr. Marlin.

It's funny that we'd be considered for hosting an all star game right after they gave us the finger and didn't include a Marlin.

My dad and I been a season ticket holder since 2003 so my dad will renew for sure!

I would LOVE to have season tickets. Unfortunately I think, or it sure seems, my life is too busy/tight to get there for 81 games. Now watching is another story. But actually getting there after work when I am an employee and not an owner. And coming home late and then getting to the office early/on time. Maybe when I retire..........lol

Nope. But for totally different reasons than already stated here. Not even a partial plan. Just buy at the box office or on StubHub when we want to go.

 

You mean you won't be a better fan than us next year?!

 

Actually, I've always said I don't know how you judge someone's "fandom." It's just the small minded posters that inhabit these boards that turned that around.

 

But, whatever.....

I was just messing with you, to be honest. I have no problems with you. You have season tickets, cool! Good work, fan Jealous I am.

 

No problem.

Nice tickets on stubhub go for pennies the day of

 

 

I picked up two tickets on stub hub for 60 last night (For the 8/15 PHI game) and sat 6 rows up in section 10 by home plate.

 

Definatly seats can be had cheaper, but the trick is to support the team with season ticket sales WHEN it is convienent. No point in over extending your budget. I got season seats in 324 this year, but upgraded my opening day tickets to section 7 and just moved around the other games. They weren't exactly strict if you werent greedy on where you moved to, they partially encouraged it. I moved from section 324 to right on the LF line one game (Pirates). You can also go to guest services and pay for ticket upgrades, which I've done twice as well.

 

Stub hub is an excellent resourse, expecially for early day games and weekday games.

 

I took pride in buying season seats, and face it- that stadium is beautiful. Any seat in there is worth going for.

 

It's never been a secret that they base the payroll ALOT on how season tickets go. They can make educated guesses on other income off that. Food, parking, etc..... "Money coming in will equal money going out." They live by that, and I think it is a smart move. It's a biz.

 

You can tell just from this thread that what I have been saying all year is probably going to happen. Season ticket sales will drop quite a bit next year. This year's team not panning out will have something to do with it, but it was inevitable for many other reasons. I don't see the payroll ever dropping to what it has been in the past, but I think it will be quite some time before it reaches what it was Opening Day this year. I hope they surprise me.

 

I don't know, one part of me says they are likely to reinvest in players this year trying to find a roster that looks good on paper and has a track record of "Professional" success. Hanley may have been a success at one point, but he was hardly professional. Jose Reyes seems to have been Hanley's Antithesis. Buerhle is a consummete professional, and he was low risk in my mind, we need more of that. Michael Bourn fits that pedigree if I remember correctly. Possibly Josh Hamiltion however he is battlng his own demons.

 

Players we sign long term should be mature, Hanley was anything but. LoMo is immature but capaple of pulling it together with his military background. Stanton's already there.

 

If only David Wright would slow down to a .180 hitter the rest of the way, I'd love the Mets not to use their option and Mr. Met become the next Mr. Marlin.

 

Just to be specific....

 

LoMo's dad was in the Coast Guard, not him. That dosen't give him a military background, IMO. Kinda like saying because your dad was a surgeon, you have a medical background. My kids were "Air Force Brats" but they don't consider themselves to have a military background.

 

And to be technical...

 

The Coast Guard isn't part of the Department of Defense. It's part of the Department of Transportation. At least the last time I checked. I'm not even sure they get VA benefits, but I do hope so. They deserve them. Just a technicality for sure and just another thing the different branches kid each other about.

We have a 20 game plan and I'm not sure yet about renewing. The prices on stubhub this season have been really low but it could be because a lot of people bought season tickets for opening day and have stopped going to games so the supply is high. The supply was never that high on stubhub when we were at Sun Life. Maybe they'll have special deals like thye've had in seasons past, 25 games for 99 bucks was great back in the day (wishful thinking)

Nice tickets on stubhub go for pennies the day of

 

 

I picked up two tickets on stub hub for 60 last night (For the 8/15 PHI game) and sat 6 rows up in section 10 by home plate.

 

Definatly seats can be had cheaper, but the trick is to support the team with season ticket sales WHEN it is convienent. No point in over extending your budget. I got season seats in 324 this year, but upgraded my opening day tickets to section 7 and just moved around the other games. They weren't exactly strict if you werent greedy on where you moved to, they partially encouraged it. I moved from section 324 to right on the LF line one game (Pirates). You can also go to guest services and pay for ticket upgrades, which I've done twice as well.

 

Stub hub is an excellent resourse, expecially for early day games and weekday games.

 

I took pride in buying season seats, and face it- that stadium is beautiful. Any seat in there is worth going for.

 

It's never been a secret that they base the payroll ALOT on how season tickets go. They can make educated guesses on other income off that. Food, parking, etc..... "Money coming in will equal money going out." They live by that, and I think it is a smart move. It's a biz.

 

You can tell just from this thread that what I have been saying all year is probably going to happen. Season ticket sales will drop quite a bit next year. This year's team not panning out will have something to do with it, but it was inevitable for many other reasons. I don't see the payroll ever dropping to what it has been in the past, but I think it will be quite some time before it reaches what it was Opening Day this year. I hope they surprise me.

 

I don't know, one part of me says they are likely to reinvest in players this year trying to find a roster that looks good on paper and has a track record of "Professional" success. Hanley may have been a success at one point, but he was hardly professional. Jose Reyes seems to have been Hanley's Antithesis. Buerhle is a consummete professional, and he was low risk in my mind, we need more of that. Michael Bourn fits that pedigree if I remember correctly. Possibly Josh Hamiltion however he is battlng his own demons.

 

Players we sign long term should be mature, Hanley was anything but. LoMo is immature but capaple of pulling it together with his military background. Stanton's already there.

 

If only David Wright would slow down to a .180 hitter the rest of the way, I'd love the Mets not to use their option and Mr. Met become the next Mr. Marlin.

 

Just to be specific....

 

LoMo's dad was in the Coast Guard, not him. That dosen't give him a military background, IMO. Kinda like saying because your dad was a surgeon, you have a medical background. My kids were "Air Force Brats" but they don't consider themselves to have a military background.

 

And to be technical...

 

The Coast Guard isn't part of the Department of Defense. It's part of the Department of Transportation. At least the last time I checked. I'm not even sure they get VA benefits, but I do hope so. They deserve them. Just a technicality for sure and just another thing the different branches kid each other about.

 

CG is part of the military, and is under the Department of Homeland Security in peacetime and part of the Department of the Navy in wartime. Their personnel are considered FULL MILITARY and receive the same VA benefits as other branches personnel.

 

They are the smallest branch of the military, but just as important as any of the other branches. Their work is important to our security and vital in times of need (such as after Katrina when they rescued more that 25,000 people from rooftops & other precarious situations in the New Orleans/Mississippi Gulf areas).

 

My brother was in the GC for 9 years. He works as a letter carrier today, but got his job based on his being in the GC. The other candidates for the job didn't have military experience, and the P.O. hires military 1st, then others.

To add to what was said above, I forgot the word "Family's" military background. You'd have to be a fool to think a father who conducts himself in one manner wouldn't rub on on their children in some way. If you read the article about Lomo and his father from ESPN a few months or a year back- you'd see what I mean.

If you do decide to renew your season tickets, make sure you boast about it as obnoxiously as possible to put down the rest of us "small-minded" people.

We have a 20 game plan and I'm not sure yet about renewing. The prices on stubhub this season have been really low but it could be because a lot of people bought season tickets for opening day and have stopped going to games so the supply is high. The supply was never that high on stubhub when we were at Sun Life. Maybe they'll have special deals like thye've had in seasons past, 25 games for 99 bucks was great back in the day (wishful thinking)

 

Absolutely the case. I know two different "ticket brokers" (what they call themselves), and they both bought a significant number of seats and know even more that did as well to try and catch "first year in the stadium" fever. That's why there was always 2-3,000 tickets per game on stub hub in April and May before the team decided to get injured and otherwise fall apart. Now it's just silly because all the average fans and 20 game packages put them up because no one wants to watch the team anymore, creating a complete vortex of cheap seats. This is not going to happen next year when everyone knows they won't sell out. At least not to this level.

Yeah I know that on stubhub for Sun Life the prices never got this low in such abundance.

CG is part of the military, and is under the Department of Homeland Security in peacetime and part of the Department of the Navy in wartime. Their personnel are considered FULL MILITARY and receive the same VA benefits as other branches personnel.

 

They are the smallest branch of the military, but just as important as any of the other branches. Their work is important to our security and vital in times of need (such as after Katrina when they rescued more that 25,000 people from rooftops & other precarious situations in the New Orleans/Mississippi Gulf areas).

 

My brother was in the GC for 9 years. He works as a letter carrier today, but got his job based on his being in the GC. The other candidates for the job didn't have military experience, and the P.O. hires military 1st, then others.

 

 

It's changed since the last time I looked it up. Glad to see it. Thanks for the update.

 

I did know that about the P.O. When I first got out I thought about applying there. At that time they also used your military service towards your retirement time. I would think they still do.

We have a 20 game plan and I'm not sure yet about renewing. The prices on stubhub this season have been really low but it could be because a lot of people bought season tickets for opening day and have stopped going to games so the supply is high. The supply was never that high on stubhub when we were at Sun Life. Maybe they'll have special deals like thye've had in seasons past, 25 games for 99 bucks was great back in the day (wishful thinking)

 

Absolutely the case. I know two different "ticket brokers" (what they call themselves), and they both bought a significant number of seats and know even more that did as well to try and catch "first year in the stadium" fever. That's why there was always 2-3,000 tickets per game on stub hub in April and May before the team decided to get injured and otherwise fall apart. Now it's just silly because all the average fans and 20 game packages put them up because no one wants to watch the team anymore, creating a complete vortex of cheap seats. This is not going to happen next year when everyone knows they won't sell out. At least not to this level.

 

Alot of season ticket holders also doubled up on their tickets when they were first offered a couple years ago because of the same reasoning. Thinking they could at least make their total $$$ back. Didn't work out that way except mainly for Opening Day and the BoSox series. Even when the team was winning.

He works as a letter carrier today, but got his job based on his being in the GC. The other candidates for the job didn't have military experience, and the P.O. hires military 1st, then others.

 

That's just flat-out wrong.

 

The USPS doesn't hire military first, they hire (to this day) based on a civil service exam (sort of a general intelligence test) that gives veterans (of any service including the CG) an arbitrary addition to their score -- called "veteran's preference" -- of 10 points. Not insignificant when perfect is 100. A smart veteran can score 110. They send out letters offering positions based on the scores, in order, highest first. Which is why they hire more veterans than they otherwise would.

 

I know this because I took that test 43 years ago during my last year in high school, scored nearly 100 and waited about a year before they made an offer -- which happened at the end of my freshman year at the University of Minnesota.

 

I took their offer and carried mail for 3 months during the summer. When I told a supervisor that I was registering for fall classes, he reacted with a look of horror and sent me downtown. They thought I was a lifer. It all worked out, after trying to do a full class schedule and 40 hours at the USPS for a few weeks I became a 20 hour "Postal Assistant" which is a clerk in the main PO who sorts mail.

 

The first day I carried mail full-time, the veteran who I went out with told me that once a year, routes were inspected. An inspector (a former carrier -- nah, no conflict of interest there, right?) walks along with you to determine whether you have too much or too little to deliver. On that day, as he said, carriers always made sure that they took the full 4.5 hours to deliver their route. Wink, wink, wink. Gosh, why would a veteran mention something like that to a new guy on his first day?

 

The fact was that carriers showed up at 6 AM and had 3 hours to case the mail into the route and pull the case into the bundles that wind up in the carrier's shoulder bag -- they usually did that in an hour. I did it in an hour. Casing mail into labeled, ordered slots isn't rocket science. They hit the street at 9 AM with 4.5 hours to deliver it -- they usually took about 1.5-2 hours. I did the same thing after delivering any route more than once.

 

And what did they do with the other 5 hours or so of their highly-paid USPS time? Why, they played cribbage. Until they could punch out with 8 hours credit for only 7 actual hours on the clock. I used to go home in the middle of the day and boink my girlfriend, I hate cribbage.

 

I also used to do 4-hour street box collection routes. Actual time needed to complete any box collection route? Somewhere between 1.5 and 2 hours. Sit in the break room and watch TV for hours and then punch out. My record was 1 hour, but that was a route I'd done many, many times.

 

Now, I have nothing against preferring veterans when it comes to employment, but this is just one reason amongst many that the USPS is losing $20 billion per year. As the USPS will admit, they are not hiring the best possible employees because they grant an arbitrary preference.

 

That's not the primary reason they lose money. The primary reason is the fact that the USPS is unionized, the secondary reason is that's it's a quasi-government operation, inefficient by definition. You can thank the postal unions for 45 cent stamps, just as you can thank the MLBPA for $6 hot dogs. As we all use on-line payment facilities to slowly drive the USPS out of business.

 

Close enough for government work.

 

:lol

If Eduardo Perez is still on this team next year I will not renew. That dude is f***ing clueless. Look at Hanley, if that isn't proof enough then I don't know what is.

If Eduardo Perez is still on this team next year I will not renew. That dude is f***ing clueless. Look at Hanley, if that isn't proof enough then I don't know what is.

 

Supposedly Hanley didn't listen to either Perez or Dawson. I think I might actually believe that.

That may be the case for Hanley, but the hitting decline of this entire team since July of last year is staggering.

That may be the case for Hanley, but the hitting decline of this entire team since July of last year is staggering.

 

I'm not necessarily saying that Perez is a good hitting coach; I'm saying that Hanley can by no means be considered "proof" of Perez's alleged failures.

 

Maybe Perez could have done more with Morrison or Gaby (but we'll never know) and that's probably about it. Stanton has been fine. Reyes started off slowly, but now he's putting up his career average numbers. John Buck probably just sucks in general and can't be helped too much.

 

I don't mind if Perez goes, but his departure probably won't change much. The meaningful changes should be made in the FO.

He works as a letter carrier today, but got his job based on his being in the GC. The other candidates for the job didn't have military experience, and the P.O. hires military 1st, then others.

 

That's just flat-out wrong.

 

The USPS doesn't hire military first, they hire (to this day) based on a civil service exam (sort of a general intelligence test) that gives veterans (of any service including the CG) an arbitrary addition to their score -- called "veteran's preference" -- of 10 points. Not insignificant when perfect is 100. A smart veteran can score 110. They send out letters offering positions based on the scores, in order, highest first. Which is why they hire more veterans than they otherwise would.

 

 

 

I do remember them saying something about the extra points thing when I was looking into it. I see nothing wrong with that. I hire vets before anyone else that is equally qualified. But I'm admittedly biased. The rest of your "rant" just sounds like a normal government job to me.

 

And I actually looked it up. The CG was changed to the Department of Home Security in 2002. Before that, the Department of Transportation. They can be (and could be) switched to the Navy in whole or in parts by order of the Prez or by a vote by Congress. The last time they were switched wholly to the Navy was during WWII. Kinda like reserve units. But like Fishgirl said, they have a vital mission right here on our own shores and seas. (Also the Great Lakes.)