June 1, 201313 yr Hopefully he can get up to .300 and .800 ops so we can get a quality player for him in a trade at the deadline. He looks like the guys who won the rookie of the year all of a sudden.
June 1, 201313 yr Author Well, if he is hitting .300 with an .800 OPS I don't know if I would move him unless Yelich/Ozuna/Stanton are all crushing the ball. Now, if he's hitting .280 with a .750 OPS I'd probably be very cool with that.
June 1, 201313 yr Well, if he is hitting .300 with an .800 OPS I don't know if I would move him unless Yelich/Ozuna/Stanton are all crushing the ball. Now, if he's hitting .280 with a .750 OPS I'd probably be very cool with that. Absolutely move him he is older and it isnt going to be sustained and we have so many OF's in the minors and if we can get, say a 3b, 1b, SS, or pitcher then go for it.
June 1, 201313 yr Oh if Coghlan is batting .300 with an OPS over .800 I'd trade him in a nanosecond. We wouldn't get massive value but we'd probably get something of mediocre value, which would be worth trading Coghlan. If he's batting .280 with a .750 OPS we'd get nothing in return for him. C'mon now.
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is well over .400 for the past month. Is his success killing you inside? No, I'm just looking at things logically.
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is well over .400 for the past month. True, but that's going to happen during the course of many small sample hot streaks. Its not even a full month's worth of PA for a regular. What's potentially more revealing is the fact that his peripherals have been the same crap during that stretch. But as a result of this hot streak, he'll certainly continue to get PA somewhere given the organizational-wide lovefest for him, regardless of whether or not he returns to his crappy levels. Knowing this team, they'll probably start to platoon him with Ruggiano in CF once Stanton returns, instead of moving him to 3B. Thus simultaneously accomplishing the goals of both lowering Ruggiano's trade value and potential to rebound, while continuing to live with Polanco's horrendous production.
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is well over .400 for the past month. Is his success killing you inside? No, I'm just looking at things logically. Not really. You cited just one stat. What would his OPS be this month if his BABIP was .320?
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is generally a good indicator of inflated stats (unless you've proven to be a consistently great hitter). If he starts consistently drawing walks, that'll show progression more than anything.
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is well over .400 for the past month. Is his success killing you inside? No, I'm just looking at things logically. Not really. You cited just one stat. What would his OPS be this month if his BABIP was .320? There is no way to estimate that. My guess would be only marginally above .700 since his walk rate hasn't changed over the hot streak. His BABIP on the year now is over .340 which correlates to a .749 OPS. Logically speaking, his increase in batting average and OPS owes a lot to an unsustainable BABIP. It's also not the first time this has happened to him. I don't know how long this hot streak will last but I think it's far too early to think that he's figured it out.
June 1, 201313 yr I understand the frustration with him over the last couple of years. But I don't understand why it goes over the top.
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is generally a good indicator of inflated stats (unless you've proven to be a consistently great hitter). If he starts consistently drawing walks, that'll show progression more than anything. What about the fact that his line drive % is 25%? He should walk more as his BB% is 1% lower than his career and he's at a below average walk rate but it's nothing horrible. His line drive % shows he's making very good contact on the ball.
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is generally a good indicator of inflated stats (unless you've proven to be a consistently great hitter). If he starts consistently drawing walks, that'll show progression more than anything. What about the fact that his line drive % is 25%? He should walk more as his BB% is 1% lower than his career and he's at a below average walk rate but it's nothing horrible. His line drive % shows he's making very good contact on the ball. Line drive rates can be unsustainable too. I wouldn't expect the walk rate to return to normal because he's clearly being more aggressive at the plate than he's been over his career thus far.
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is well over .400 for the past month. Is his success killing you inside? No, I'm just looking at things logically. Not really. You cited just one stat. What would his OPS be this month if his BABIP was .320? There is no way to estimate that. My guess would be only marginally above .700 since his walk rate hasn't changed over the hot streak. His BABIP on the year now is over .340 which correlates to a .749 OPS. Logically speaking, his increase in batting average and OPS owes a lot to an unsustainable BABIP. It's also not the first time this has happened to him. I don't know how long this hot streak will last but I think it's far too early to think that he's figured it out. I don't think it would marginally be over .700 I don't think he's figured it out. I just don't think it's fair to say he's only successful because of the BABIP. He's clearly not this successful but he could be a decent bat.
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is generally a good indicator of inflated stats (unless you've proven to be a consistently great hitter). If he starts consistently drawing walks, that'll show progression more than anything. What about the fact that his line drive % is 25%? He should walk more as his BB% is 1% lower than his career and he's at a below average walk rate but it's nothing horrible. His line drive % shows he's making very good contact on the ball. Line drive rates can be unsustainable too. I wouldn't expect the walk rate to return to normal because he's clearly being more aggressive at the plate than he's been over his career thus far. Right. So his line drive rates will still be over league average. I'll take that if it means a 1% decrease in walk rate.
June 1, 201313 yr I don't think it would marginally be over .700 Ok? I meant it would be much higher. Not just marginally over .700.
June 1, 201313 yr I don't think it would marginally be over .700 Ok? I meant it would be much higher. Not just marginally over .700. It's easy to say you disagree, but you should provide a more specific explanation as to why you think so.
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is generally a good indicator of inflated stats (unless you've proven to be a consistently great hitter). If he starts consistently drawing walks, that'll show progression more than anything. What about the fact that his line drive % is 25%? He should walk more as his BB% is 1% lower than his career and he's at a below average walk rate but it's nothing horrible. His line drive % shows he's making very good contact on the ball. Line drive rates can be unsustainable too. I wouldn't expect the walk rate to return to normal because he's clearly being more aggressive at the plate than he's been over his career thus far. Right. So his line drive rates will still be over league average. I'll take that if it means a 1% decrease in walk rate. The LD% rate has nothing to do with the walk rate. A higher than league average LD% will come back down to earth and so will the BABIP.
June 1, 201313 yr Author I hate stupid stats like BABlah. Watch the freakin game! I'm not claiming he has figured it out, but he's healthy and he's getting AB's and all the sudden he's productive again. He looks like he knows what he's doing at the plate again and the results are all the line drives he is spraying all over the place. These are not Texas leaguers. These are extra base hits and productive at bats. If you think what he's doing is unsustainable you're retarded. He's just playing up to his ability.
June 1, 201313 yr They should give him some games as 2b just to shut us up since we've been talking about it for years.
June 1, 201313 yr BABIP is generally a good indicator of inflated stats (unless you've proven to be a consistently great hitter). If he starts consistently drawing walks, that'll show progression more than anything. What about the fact that his line drive % is 25%? He should walk more as his BB% is 1% lower than his career and he's at a below average walk rate but it's nothing horrible. His line drive % shows he's making very good contact on the ball. Line drive rates can be unsustainable too. I wouldn't expect the walk rate to return to normal because he's clearly being more aggressive at the plate than he's been over his career thus far. Right. So his line drive rates will still be over league average. I'll take that if it means a 1% decrease in walk rate. The LD% rate has nothing to do with the walk rate. A higher than league average LD% will come back down to earth and so will the BABIP. You said yourself, he's more aggressive so his walk rate probably won't come back down. Being more aggressive could mean a higher line drive rate, as well.
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.