From today's Sun-Sentinel, Boras is quoted in an article saying:

 

"Pudge has given me very specific designs," Boras said. "We have a player who had a great year. We said we wanted a multiyear contract, and obviously he wanted an increase based upon the fact that players get paid for having great years."

 

Not so fast Borass.

Pudge did phenomenal in the playoffs. But did he have a great year?

 

Let's see how he performed compared to past seasons:

 

- Lowest HR total since 1995.

- Lowest batting average since 1993.

- Lowest slugging % since 1996.

- Lowest OPS since 1996.

- He struck out more times than ever in his career.

- His % of runners thrown out stealing was the worst of his career.

 

Now here's what was good:

 

- RBI totals were good for the # of at-bats he had.

- Had a career high in walks, which also gave him his 2nd highest on-base % ever.

- He stayed healthy.

- He handled the pitching staff very well.

 

I agree that you can attribute much of negatives to the switch to the NL, as well as the switch to a bigger ballpark.

I am not saying Pudge did not have a good year. He's a fantastic player, these numbers are still quite good, and he was arguably the leader of this team last year. Clearly they would not have won the world series without him.

 

But for Pudge, I don't see the whole season as a "great year" statistically. His playoff numbers were astronomical, but the regular season was probably pretty average for what you'd expect from him.

 

I'm not sure that merits an increase. An increase in years is fine, but certainly not in dollars.

 

I am a huge fan of Pudge & would love to have him back. I'm sure most of this is just posturing by Boras for the media. But the Marlins FO have honest arguments to make at the negotiating table. They are not lowballing him.

General manager Admin Beinfest also said he is continuing to talk with Scott Boras, the agent for catcher Ivan Rodriguez, in an effort to sign the free agent before Sunday's midnight deadline.

 

Beinfest and Boras declined to discuss the negotiations, but a source close to the talks said the Marlins' offer was for $20 million over three years.

 

2 years 16 million, or

3 years, 20 million...

 

take your pick Pudge.

"Borass" as yah all call him (I see why

Who DOES like Scott Dumbass? Certainly not me. Hopefully, he won't brainwash Pudge with his crap.

 

C'mon, Pudge...sign on the dotted line!!!!!

Hotcorner, one of the best posts of the week. Congrats!!

 

Sets the record straight, it's a great assessment of Pudge's strengths and weaknesses.

heres my question borass: whos gonna pay an 32 year old injury prone catcher w/ declining numbers in many categories your suggested 50 mil over 5 yrs?

 

cmon pudge. tell borass to f*** off and take our offer

its pretty much.

 

3 yrs with Pudge making around 6.6 million per

 

or 2 Yrs with Pudge making around 8 million per

Nice points on how in many categories hes numbers were down from other years.

Like I have said, a lot of people here aren't looking at the stats, and are speaking with their hearts.

 

Pudge did not, by any means, have a stellar 2003 season. In fact, compared to pre-season expectations, he didn't live up to what was expected of him.

 

Bottom line, Ivan is not worth $10 Million a year. Hell, I'd be hesitant to give him $7 Mill. He is not the godly figure he thinks he is, and he needs this team much more than we need him.

Good post hotcorner. Does he justify a raise? No

 

However, I do think he did great during 2003. I think that during the first 3 or 4 months Pudge was adjusting to the NL pitching. Most players that change league DO struggle for a period of time. After that, Pudge was on fire and put equal or better numbers that his career averages. He remained healthy, but he does have 1500+ games behind the plate and 32 years.

 

Let's put things on perspective,

- 2nd to Luis Castillo on OBP

- 1st on AVG with RISP during regular season and postseason (I'm assuming he did batted over .400 or .500 avg with RISP during the playoffs)

- Marlins pitching blossomed (we may never know if this was a Pudge effect)

 

With that said, I agree with most here

- 2 years at 7 millions (with a 3rd year option) (21million)

- or 2 years at 8 millions (16million)

 

I hope he signs, if not he will be missed.

Man this Pudge thing never dies and I see why. Oh and yes Boras is an @$$ but he Pudge is not being brainwashed by him. Look at last season Didn't sign with the fish until late because no other team was going after him. Pudge demands a lot of money and adding Boras to the mix doesn't help much because they could come up with 20 mill for 1 year. Pudge just take the 3 candy bar offer and 500 bucks.

Oh and yes Boras is an @$$ but he Pudge is not being brainwashed by him. Look at last season Didn't sign with the fish until late because no other team was going after him.

Pudge could have easily been an Oriole if they'd offered him what he wanted. He signed with the Fish cause we were the only team willing to spend $10 million on a 31 year-old catcher. He even considered playing in Japan if he didn't get the $10 million he wanted. He's greedy and he showing it now wanting a 5 year/$50 million contract.

Boras must think that Pudge's post-season performance makes him worthy of a huge contract- he certainly didn't have the numbers in the regular season.

Boras' job is to highlight every positive he can. The bottom line is that Pudge doesn't have a long list of suitors driving up his value. In fact, the interest in Pudge is surprisingly low. Boras push for a $50m contract has driven potential buyers to look for more cost effective alternatives. The Orioles could of had the greatest interest, but right now it looks like Javy is a greater priority.

 

I hope Pudge doesn't blow his chance to stay a Marlin this weekend.