DMoney82 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 If anyone has ESPN Insider, theres some Vlad news. It's on ESPN Rumor Central. Us Vlad-Addicts need a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheff#1 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 i was on earlier with my cousins name on insider and it shows the free agent charts of all the top free agents and the teams intrested and under vlad the marlins are now the biggest players and top choice for vlad .they have the marlins ahead of the orioles and said the marlins became big players for vlad after losing out on pudge...so there u go the marlins are vlads number one choice..lets wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 i was on earlier with my cousins name on insider and it shows the free agent charts of all the top free agents and the teams intrested and under vlad the marlins are now the biggest players and top choice for vlad .they have the marlins ahead of the orioles and said the marlins became big players for vlad after losing out on pudge...so there u go the marlins are vlads number one choice..lets wait and see i think they place names in alphabetical order or by "newest" news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheff#1 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 no they list the teams on the left with the best chance of gettin the player and then some news about it on the right side..the marlins are the number one choice then orioles then yankees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMoney82 Posted December 11, 2003 Author Share Posted December 11, 2003 The headline I saw just said Marlins After Vlad....it's on the ESPN main page in a box near the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheff#1 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 yea i know it takes u to what i am talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugg Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Who: Vladimir Guerrero, Expos Interested: Marlins, Orioles, Yankees, Angels, Braves?, Mariners? Â Dec. 10 - The Marlins plan to steer the money that had been set aside to re-sign Pudge Rodriguez toward Guerrero in hopes of persuading the former Expos slugger to consider relocating to South Florida, according to the Palm Beach Post. Guerrero made $11.5 million last season and would appear to be out of Florida's price range, but the Post indicated the team could construct a "creative contract" tied to the construction of a new stadium, as it did in re-signing Mike Lowell. Â The Orioles have been thought to be the frontrunner for Guererro, but the sides have yet to meet face to face. Orioles officials insist that doesn't diminish their position and expect to open formal talks at the winter meetings this weekend. Â With Gary Sheffield balking at the Yankees' offer, Guerrero's name has resurfaced as a possibility there. Anaheim also could make a run, although Tuesday's signing of Bartolo Colon could take the Angels out of the running. The Mariners also haven't ruled out making a proposal to Guererro. The Braves have been mentioned as a possible dark-horse candidate, but that talk has fallen to a murmur. ESPN Insider (with some reformatting so it's more understandable)Â Yes, we're currently listed number 1, but I wouldn't read all that much into it until we actually talk to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Mollusk Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 INTERESTED  Vladimir Guerrero Expos Marlins Orioles Yankees Angels Braves? Mariners?  THE SKINNY  Dec. 10 - The Marlins plan to steer the money that had been set aside to re-sign Pudge Rodriguez toward Guerrero in hopes of persuading the former Expos slugger to consider relocating to South Florida, according to the Palm Beach Post. Guerrero made $11.5 million last season and would appear to be out of Florida's price range, but the Post indicated the team could construct a "creative contract" tied to the construction of a new stadium, as it did in re-signing Mike Lowell.  The Orioles have been thought to be the frontrunner for Guererro, but the sides have yet to meet face to face. Orioles officials insist that doesn't diminish their position and expect to open formal talks at the winter meetings this weekend.  With Gary Sheffield balking at the Yankees' offer, Guerrero's name has resurfaced as a possibility there. Anaheim also could make a run, although Tuesday's signing of Bartolo Colon could take the Angels out of the running. The Mariners also haven't ruled out making a proposal to Guererro. The Braves have been mentioned as a possible dark-horse candidate, but that talk has fallen to a murmur.  There you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheff#1 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 yea except take the expos off that last list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippyO Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I don't know if you guys have noticed, but all this buzz over the internet about Vlad going to Miami came from one source - the Palm Beach Post story. I personally thought it didn't say anything concrete, nor did it contain any meaningful or relevant quotes. A rush job (I don't like to say hackwork, because I know writers and that's a pretty harsh term). Â The point is, always look at where the story comes from. You need independent sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheff#1 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 hey rippyO u know what just came out of ur mouth?crap crap crap crap crap...palm beach post was not the source! its all over espn and clearly where do u think palm beach posts gets their story? they dont make it up! they have inside sources that know vlads ppl and vise versa..they may have been the first to publish it but they did not start it..so go back to ur cub board and stop tryin to bash our hopes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnylons Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 ACtually, there was a rumor back last year about us possibly trading for Vlad when the Expos were faced with gutting their then playoff-caliber team. Instead they traded Colon and were fine. Â One big reason why the Marlins are a suitor - which neither the Palm Beach Post nor any other media outlet can make up - is the Marlins Front Office. There are many strong ties to Vlad. Fred Ferriera, as everyone now knows, was the scout that signed him. He has been a favorite of Loria and Vlad seems to like him as well. There is a lot of mutually good feeling between the two sides. Beattie, the O's GM, was there when Vlad was, but doesnt have the same draw as the Marlins FO does. And that is one of the main reasons why people have been connecting the O's to Vlad. Â Vlad is going to decide between the Marlins and the O's. In fact, Marlins are choice 1 because they have all the intangibles that the O's dont - latin community and fan base, World Series title, a chance to get back there this year (aka young pitching), and a mild media climate (O's have this too). All the Marlins have to do is make a competitive offer and with those previously mentioned intangibles and no state income tax, Vlad could be wearing teal and black. The O's would have to counter with a deal that would blow them away, and seeing that Tejada and Lopez are on the market and possible targets, I doubt the competition will get all that hot from the O's. The only thing that may be guiding them is last year's lesson of losing Pudge to us. They may not want to lose another. We will see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beinfest4Prez Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I don't think Vlad is the O's top choice anymore considering they just said they would top any offer made by any team to Tejada. A high-ranking Orioles official told the Baltimore Sun said his team will definitely top Seattle's three-year, $25 million offer to Miguel Tejada c/o rotoworld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnylons Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Well that can mean one of two things: a) the Orioles had Tejada as a bigger priority b) they feel they have a better chance of getting Tejada than Vlad a) could result from Tejada being very affordable - only 8M per season for one of the top 4 SS in the game. (It is a shame, but not at all unforeseeable, that the Muts spent the same money on Kaz Matsui. It doesnt make sense...). And Vlad is going to cost about $4M more...but why would be able to do it? b) maybe we jumped ahead of them or they know something...maybe talks are intensifying with another team, perhaps us.  This is good news for us Vlad hopefuls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 At this point, it seems to me that almost everything points to Vlad becoming a Marlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 you guys do know that they could afford both Vlad and Tejada, and maybe even Pudge or Javy. They have $40 Million to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geemoney Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 At this point, it seems to me that almost everything points to Vlad becoming a Marlin. How can you say that? We haven't even offered a contract yet, nor have any of the other interested teams, to my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 At this point, it seems to me that almost everything points to Vlad becoming a Marlin. :lol  I wish ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I saw Sheffield with Strawberry at the MD v FLA game last night. I was screaming, "sign with Yanks Sheff!" One less bidding team gives us a better chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beinfest4Prez Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I saw Sheffield with Strawberry at the MD v FLA game last night. I was screaming, "sign with Yanks Sheff!" One less bidding team gives us a better chance. really??? good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I saw Sheffield with Strawberry at the MD v FLA game last night. I was screaming, "sign with Yanks Sheff!" One less bidding team gives us a better chance. really??? good job why the attitude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beinfest4Prez Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 What attitude :angry    :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnylons Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I saw Sheffield with Strawberry at the MD v FLA game last night.? I was screaming, "sign with Yanks Sheff!"? One less bidding team gives us a better chance. really??? good job why the attitude? yeah! :angry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 i think everyone needs a lesson what means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beinfest4Prez Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 alright i'm your first student Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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