Pitching like shit tonight...how many more starts do we have to sit through with this guy?

 

A lot.

 

 

Pitching like shit tonight...how many more starts do we have to sit through with this guy?

 

You don't have to sit through them. You can stand if you'd like. 

 

 

A lot.

 

fuck

 

 

You don't have to sit through them. You can stand if you'd like. 

 

I have to sit, he gives me the shits

 

 

Really amazing to look at his home and road splits. In fact, his numbers are very solid over his last 15 starts. 

 

 

Pitching like shit tonight...how many more starts do we have to sit through with this guy?

 

But what to do with the BEST home games record among all MLB SPs ?

 

 

I think the only solution to his drastic home road split was a "new season",in a whole new 2019 season maybe everything would be different.

 

 

I think it's just like another kind of "career season" to Chen,a season with a "beyond expectation" great home record and a "not as expected" terrible road record,so in a rebuilding season how about let's say "thank you,Chen" to his great home games and not say "fuck you,Chen" to his terrible road games. 

 

 

"$16M Vesting Option. Option vests if he has 180 innings pitched in 2020 or 360 IP in 2019-20"

 

Chen's contract have this "vesting option", so I think it's impossible he would be a SP in the 2020 season if he's still a Marlins, right ?

 

 

"$16M Vesting Option. Option vests if he has 180 innings pitched in 2020 or 360 IP in 2019-20"

 

Chen's contract have this "vesting option", so I think it's impossible he would be a SP in the 2020 season if he's still a Marlins, right ?

 

They can't prevent him from pitching unless he's injured if that's what you're getting at. 

 

 

They can't prevent him from pitching unless he's injured if that's what you're getting at. 

 

I mean this team wouldn't start him and prevent him to reach the total innings that needed in the "vesting option".

 

 

I mean this team wouldn't start him and prevent him to reach the total innings that needed in the "vesting option".

 

And like @SilverBulletsaid they can't do that, they'd lose a union fight if they tried.

 

 

And like @SilverBulletsaid they can't do that, they'd lose a union fight if they tried.

 

You mean this team can't transfer him to a relief pitcher to reduce his total pitched innings ? 

 

 

You mean this team can't transfer him to a relief pitcher to reduce his total pitched innings ? 

 

They'd need a legit reason for preventing him from reaching his IP or he'll file a grievance and likely win.

 

 

They can't prevent him from pitching unless he's injured if that's what you're getting at. 

 

You know that he's going to be perfectly healthy the next two seasons and make that option vest.  That's Marlins luck.

 

 

You know that he's going to be perfectly healthy the next two seasons and make that option vest.  That's Marlins luck.

 

I actually don't think Chen can get any worse. I think he's gonna have a couple of decent seasons from here on out. 

 

 

I actually don't think Chen can get any worse. I think he's gonna have a couple of decent seasons from here on out. 

 

I agree.  I just think it's funny that he's going to wind up performing to expectations when it doesn't matter (compared to when we needed him to do better with the previous core), and when it results in us having to pay him more. lol!

 

 

I think Chen would got that 2021 vest option and that 16MM salary if he's healthy enough.

 

 

I think Chen would got that 2021 vest option and that 16MM salary if he's healthy enough.

 

Yeah it isn't a difficult one if healthy.

 

 

Maybe he's an important SP in our contending 2021 season.

 

 

Maybe he's an important SP in our contending 2021 season.

 

We can hope.

 

 

I actually don't think Chen can get any worse. I think he's gonna have a couple of decent seasons from here on out. 

 

2021 Marlins playoffs MVP ?

 

 

They'd need a legit reason for preventing him from reaching his IP or he'll file a grievance and likely win.

 

I know it's an option that in favor of the players, but I don't believe a player would win the grievance with the ERA over 10 or the BA under .200, right ?

 

 

I know it's an option that in favor of the players, but I don't believe a player would win the grievance with the ERA over 10 or the BA under .200, right ?

 

That would be a legit reason for reduced playing time so the team would likely win if the player tried to file a grievance.

 

 

If he plays really well, he becomes tradable.