as he has all along, god is guiding this franchise. if it wasn't meant to be, why did we win two world championships at two periods of biggest trial and the possibility of doom? 1997 could have been a strike year, 2003 could have been the year of our contraction.

I'm sorry, I'm Catholic and all. But God takes no interest in sporting events whatsoever. If he did, would Notre Dame ever lose a game? notre Dame has been pretty damn good, so that's not such a great argument

BYU wouldn't lose a game either. TCU would have gotten into the BCS. etc. God does not get involved in sporting events, sorry. As much as I have prayed during big games before, I refuse to believe that God has nothing better to do than influence the outcome of a sporting event.

I don't think god cares about sports either.

 

But, just to tell you- BYU was unbelievable in the mid- 80's, TCU's halfback (Ladanian) is arguably the best in football, and, yeah, that's it.

 

Then again, most schools were good at one point, i don't know about the halfback thing though.

 

*stops arguing with self*

if God were a sports fan and influenced outcomes....

 

 

 

why did Southern Methodist University get the death penalty?

 

 

 

question

guys, mock him if you want. but he is up there, and he is watching over this team, state and country.

but God is not influencing the outcomes of sporting events....

 

 

please.

he influences everything :shifty

but God is not influencing the outcomes of sporting events....

 

 

please.

agreed

 

He has his hands full with complaints and global conflicts

he influences everything :shifty

perhaps to some extents such as to keep players safe and all.....

 

 

but not as far as who wins and who loses.....

 

 

 

 

that is a twisting of what religion is all about.

 

 

 

but if you want to believe that...go for it.

Why can't God have a fav baseball team? :mischief2

he influences everything :shifty

perhaps to some extents such as to keep players safe and all.....

 

 

but not as far as who wins and who loses.....

 

 

 

 

that is a twisting of what religion is all about. Agreed

 

And yeah bollostar, it's pretty much the Yankees if he favors anyone. I mean, what, 26 Series wins?

guys, mock him if you want. but he is up there, and he is watching over this team, state and country.

im sorry but thats some idiotic s***. believe it if you want but still

 

i hate seeing all these sports teams with a team chaplain (sp?). is that suppose to do something? does God flip a coin to decide which team to help? or is it the team that prayed first or longest?

 

like others have said, God doesnt care about sports, at all.

 

also, one more thing. how does God decide to protect a country? which country does he protect?

i hate seeing all these sports teams with a team chaplain (sp?). is that suppose to do something? does God flip a coin to decide which team to help? or is it the team that prayed first or longest?

i think the primary reason for having a team chaplin is to help guide the team and lead them through prayers to keep them safe while out on the athletic field.

 

 

that they suffer no major injuries, and are able to focus their talents on the field fo play using their god given talents to the best of their abilites.

 

 

i dont think teams employ chaplins because they think a chaplin is going to intercede and allow them to win games.

 

 

that is naive.

Chaplains serve a good purpose. Because they don't pray for victory, they pray for the safety of the players. I think God does, to an extent does watch over that. Maybe.

the safety thing im sure, but c'mon, i remember i belive it was wanny who complained about a chapelain that did a prayer for the dolphins ended up doing a prayer for the bills a while back. i dont think he was joking but i could be wrong. thats saying something

just to clarify things, im sure they dont pray for victory. but you have to admit coaches and players might think doing it would benefit them. athletes are so supersticious and now trying to get God involved you have to admit they're thinking about more than safety

I'm sorry, did I stumble into the Politics folder?

I'm sorry, did I stumble into the Politics folder?

That's what I was thinking.

Remember guys, that even if we don't sell enough season ticket packages, we still have to wait and see how the stadium is when opening day comes and how many individual game tickets we sell. If we keep winning, I think we should be fine. But like I said, we'll see.

You can't judge yourself by Le Batard's numbers. Just because people don't buy 81 game plans doesn't mean they aren't season ticket holders, and Le Batard only counted 81 gamers. Basically, the two plans I was involved in buying were counted as one because they were two 41 gamers. We will be more than fine. LeBatard is ABSOLUTELY correct. Fact is there are less than 5,000 season ticket holders, that includes all season packages, and that is disgraceful. This market repeatedly lies to this team. Instead of you praying they bring Pudge back and making your lame arguments in defense of that, it's time to recognize the fact that March 15 is the most important deadline in the history of this franchise. If a stadium isn't done, then the team will move. It's time to quit making excuses and accept reality

thats obvious.

 

 

i guess its like...at least our fanbase is growing....

 

 

 

its still a concern.

Why must you be so damn negative all the time? It will take some time for the fan base to grow - winning a World Series, in some ways, is bad for this franchise. I thought getting to the playoffs would be better because winning the whole thing all of a sudden means we get a huge windfall. No. Fans started coming back when the Marlins started winning. If they keep winning, people will be back. Plain and simple. Some people are still on the fence with this team - remember, last time we won a WS we lost 118 games the following year. That is clearly not going to happen here, but people are a little gun shy.

 

The other thing, which a$$holes like LeBAstard dont realize is, people just dont have all the money right now. Holidays just passed. People live beyond their means in Miami - in fact, that is a way of life down here. There just isnt a lot of money lying around. But in the coming weeks, people will start showing up and buying tix. FanFest has been targeted as a big selling point. And as people get their tax refunds back, that money could be used towards getting tix.

 

I also think people are non-committal with season tix because of weather concerns and it is more flexible to get a 20 game deal. I am actually very encouraged if we have only 5,000 tix at this point - and they consist completely of 20 game deals. That is 20,000 fans instead of just 5,000. So LeRetard and others (ahem...Das) should try and take an objective look here. what a lame post this is. Holidays just passed. Give me a break. Winning it all was bad, give me a break. LeBatard is ABSOLUTELY correct. Quit making excuses. You either want the team or you don't. Excuses are for losers. Your post reflects the biggest loser attitude I've ever read. It's too hot to go. We don't have money. Well, if this market doesn't have the money, some other market will. Funny how other markets have more, many more, season ticket holders than our market. They just had the holidays, and they are buying tickets. What a lame argument. Get a reality check. Why do you even come into a message board? You clearly have no interest or knowledge of what it takes to be a big league market. Go support minor league baseball somewhere. LeBatard isn't correct often, but he nailed it on this argument. As a market, we are pathetic. Until people actually admit this problem, and address it, then nothing will be done. You say if we had reached the playoffs and lost, that would have built up the hunger, what a stupid comment. You honestly believe there would be more interest if we lost to the Cubs? Braindead is the one word to describe you.

if God were a sports fan and influenced outcomes....

 

 

 

why did Southern Methodist University get the death penalty?

 

 

 

question

Perhaps because they (should) have more important things to worry about.

 

 

ANSWER

thats obvious.

 

 

i guess its like...at least our fanbase is growing....

 

 

 

its still a concern.

Why must you be so damn negative all the time? It will take some time for the fan base to grow - winning a World Series, in some ways, is bad for this franchise. I thought getting to the playoffs would be better because winning the whole thing all of a sudden means we get a huge windfall. No. Fans started coming back when the Marlins started winning. If they keep winning, people will be back. Plain and simple. Some people are still on the fence with this team - remember, last time we won a WS we lost 118 games the following year. That is clearly not going to happen here, but people are a little gun shy.

 

The other thing, which a$$holes like LeBAstard dont realize is, people just dont have all the money right now. Holidays just passed. People live beyond their means in Miami - in fact, that is a way of life down here. There just isnt a lot of money lying around. But in the coming weeks, people will start showing up and buying tix. FanFest has been targeted as a big selling point. And as people get their tax refunds back, that money could be used towards getting tix.

 

I also think people are non-committal with season tix because of weather concerns and it is more flexible to get a 20 game deal. I am actually very encouraged if we have only 5,000 tix at this point - and they consist completely of 20 game deals. That is 20,000 fans instead of just 5,000. So LeRetard and others (ahem...Das) should try and take an objective look here. what a lame post this is. Holidays just passed. Give me a break. Winning it all was bad, give me a break. LeBatard is ABSOLUTELY correct. Quit making excuses. You either want the team or you don't. Excuses are for losers. Your post reflects the biggest loser attitude I've ever read. It's too hot to go. We don't have money. Well, if this market doesn't have the money, some other market will. Funny how other markets have more, many more, season ticket holders than our market. They just had the holidays, and they are buying tickets. What a lame argument. Get a reality check. Why do you even come into a message board? You clearly have no interest or knowledge of what it takes to be a big league market. Go support minor league baseball somewhere. LeBatard isn't correct often, but he nailed it on this argument. As a market, we are pathetic. Until people actually admit this problem, and address it, then nothing will be done. You say if we had reached the playoffs and lost, that would have built up the hunger, what a stupid comment. You honestly believe there would be more interest if we lost to the Cubs? Braindead is the one word to describe you. Repeatin04, or should I say, Dan LeBatard, I wont resort to name-calling because clearly you have insecurity issues. If you think that now should be the time to determine whether or not this market should have this franchise then you are wrong. The fact is that there is a large population here in Dade county and a large population of baseball-knowledgeable fans. In fact, a large part of the talent in MLB comes from down here or even through here. So to say the market isnt here is naive.

 

It is only Jan. 27th. Opening Day is April 1st. That is roughly 2 months away. Do me a favor, try and find out what the season ticket sales are actually at this moment. You will find that LeRetard (yourself) is not using ALL the facts, as he tends to do. 5,000 season tix may be a snapshot, but there are people as we speak who are sending in their orders and the Marlins office is having a hard time of keeping up with the process. In other words, business is good. Crying and whining over ticket sales in January is like whining over signing Ivan Rodriguez to a team 'clearly' not headed to the playoffs. It is like, and I quote our beloved LeRetard, "adding breast implants to a corpse". Funny, that was another estimation that LeRetard made - in January of last year. Look how dead wrong he was then.

 

But go ahead, side with him. You seem to be the kind of guy who can rationally form arguments and instead of just citing problems (or inciting them), can offer solutions. Oops, I guess I had you confused with someone who was 'braindead'.

I'm a weekly church attending Christian, and I can say with confidence that God does not affect sporting events AT ALL.

 

He has more important things to worry about and watch over. I'm not even going to start with all the examples that prove God doesn't effect sports, but trust me people, he doesn't.

I'm a weekly church attending Christian, and I can say with confidence that God does not affect sporting events AT ALL.

 

He has more important things to worry about and watch over. I'm not even going to start with all the examples that prove God doesn't effect sports, but trust me people, he doesn't.

After watching the 2003 season for the Marlins, I could swear there was some kind of divine intervention.

 

But I see what you mean.

 

On the other hand, Trader Jack prayed a lot during the playoffs. I wonder if just by having faith, his confidence in himself and the team grew and that may have been projected in his actions

thats obvious.

 

 

i guess its like...at least our fanbase is growing....

 

 

 

its still a concern.

Why must you be so damn negative all the time? It will take some time for the fan base to grow - winning a World Series, in some ways, is bad for this franchise. I thought getting to the playoffs would be better because winning the whole thing all of a sudden means we get a huge windfall. No. Fans started coming back when the Marlins started winning. If they keep winning, people will be back. Plain and simple. Some people are still on the fence with this team - remember, last time we won a WS we lost 118 games the following year. That is clearly not going to happen here, but people are a little gun shy.

 

The other thing, which a$$holes like LeBAstard dont realize is, people just dont have all the money right now. Holidays just passed. People live beyond their means in Miami - in fact, that is a way of life down here. There just isnt a lot of money lying around. But in the coming weeks, people will start showing up and buying tix. FanFest has been targeted as a big selling point. And as people get their tax refunds back, that money could be used towards getting tix.

 

I also think people are non-committal with season tix because of weather concerns and it is more flexible to get a 20 game deal. I am actually very encouraged if we have only 5,000 tix at this point - and they consist completely of 20 game deals. That is 20,000 fans instead of just 5,000. So LeRetard and others (ahem...Das) should try and take an objective look here. what a lame post this is. Holidays just passed. Give me a break. Winning it all was bad, give me a break. LeBatard is ABSOLUTELY correct. Quit making excuses. You either want the team or you don't. Excuses are for losers. Your post reflects the biggest loser attitude I've ever read. It's too hot to go. We don't have money. Well, if this market doesn't have the money, some other market will. Funny how other markets have more, many more, season ticket holders than our market. They just had the holidays, and they are buying tickets. What a lame argument. Get a reality check. Why do you even come into a message board? You clearly have no interest or knowledge of what it takes to be a big league market. Go support minor league baseball somewhere. LeBatard isn't correct often, but he nailed it on this argument. As a market, we are pathetic. Until people actually admit this problem, and address it, then nothing will be done. You say if we had reached the playoffs and lost, that would have built up the hunger, what a stupid comment. You honestly believe there would be more interest if we lost to the Cubs? Braindead is the one word to describe you. Repeatin04, or should I say, Dan LeBatard, I wont resort to name-calling because clearly you have insecurity issues. If you think that now should be the time to determine whether or not this market should have this franchise then you are wrong. The fact is that there is a large population here in Dade county and a large population of baseball-knowledgeable fans. In fact, a large part of the talent in MLB comes from down here or even through here. So to say the market isnt here is naive.

 

It is only Jan. 27th. Opening Day is April 1st. That is roughly 2 months away. Do me a favor, try and find out what the season ticket sales are actually at this moment. You will find that LeRetard (yourself) is not using ALL the facts, as he tends to do. 5,000 season tix may be a snapshot, but there are people as we speak who are sending in their orders and the Marlins office is having a hard time of keeping up with the process. In other words, business is good. Crying and whining over ticket sales in January is like whining over signing Ivan Rodriguez to a team 'clearly' not headed to the playoffs. It is like, and I quote our beloved LeRetard, "adding breast implants to a corpse". Funny, that was another estimation that LeRetard made - in January of last year. Look how dead wrong he was then.

 

But go ahead, side with him. You seem to be the kind of guy who can rationally form arguments and instead of just citing problems (or inciting them), can offer solutions. Oops, I guess I had you confused with someone who was 'braindead'. Sorry your feelings bruise so easily. Making excuses is for losers. Give it up trying to justify the lousy fan support. Winning the World Series isn't enough for this market. It's attitudes like yours that has this team scraping to survive. LeBatard is correct is ripping the fans. If this team even has any. This is the worst market in baseball. Win championships, lose the team because of apathy. Then to have so called fans justifying not attending and making up lame arguments, just pathetic. You honestly think by opening day that the season ticket base will be substantially more than 5,000? What is impressive to you, 8,000? Wow, that will pay for a long term deal with Cabrera. Face it, this town is what it is, which isn't much. Loser excuse makers only exasperate the problem. Yes you are braindead.