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People can be upset the money couldn't have been used in a better fashion...or that the municipal politics is garbage here. But that would seem like losing focus of our hatred. Pitchforks still available for Loria and Samson. The pitchforks should be out for the politicians that allowed Loria to loot the community.

The guy who opposed our stadium because they shouldn't be built with taxpayer money (it wasn't) ... Then maybe you can explain what we're on the hook for $2.4 billion for. http://www.miamidade...2009/090732.pdf Read that. You send me to a document that reaffirms that the stadium was built with taxpayer dollars? God, why do these trades bring out our dumbest members. People with 37 post counts and who haven't posted since 2006 are coming out of the Retarded Woods. Are you screwing in a hotel? If yes then you paid for the stadium. If not, read the documents correctly. Well you have > 2600 posts, so we know that you are a super fan and super smart. This may come as a shock, but there is no breaking news in that document. It's all old news. It's all been debated before. And despite all the logic gymnastics by Loria/Samson apologists ... that's still tax dollars.

Maybe the Marlins will sit down now and offer Giancarlo the 10 years, $200 million dollar contract that he's worth. And then trade him next offseason?

The guy who opposed our stadium because they shouldn't be built with taxpayer money (it wasn't) ... Then maybe you can explain what we're on the hook for $2.4 billion for. http://www.miamidade...2009/090732.pdf Read that. You send me to a document that reaffirms that the stadium was built with taxpayer dollars?

50/50 Selig vetos this trade. Good luck with that.

The guy who opposed our stadium because they shouldn't be built with taxpayer money (it wasn't) ... Then maybe you can explain what we're on the hook for $2.4 billion for.

Loria and Samson should be in jail. By your standard, I could make a convincing case that you should be in jail. I'd love to hear it.

Just because Loria is an asshat doesn't make Bramann a good guy everyone... They're both scum. We'd be better off if the other scum owned the team. Loria and Samson should be in jail.

The Thread Starter should be punched in the throat. How foolish to wish someone took the Marlins away, I take it your neither a Marlins fan nor a sportsfan living in Miami. Nah, he's probably just a taxpayer.

Can we all get together and write an e-mail to Loria and Samson about how they lied to us. I'm pretty sure they know. I'm pretty sure that they were in on it all along.

I don't even think an explanation is necessary. Eventually Loria too shall pass. Remain a fan ... just don't give him any of your money, and don't let him sucker you again.

I really hate to be this guy, but with rumors swirling that the Marlins are going to cut payroll for 2013 I am considering renouncing my fanhood for this team. I have been a fan all of my life, but I am losing patience with the way this organization is run. Loria is incompetent and incapable of properly running a Major League Baseball franchise. Manager after manager comes through the door, and all the while the man who is most responsible for the Marlins failures in the last 9 years gets to keep his job (Beinfest). Unbelievable. He calls Freddi Gonzalez a "colossal failure" even though he managed winning teams with scant payrolls. And now they're talking about reducing payroll to between $70-80 million because they've "lost money". If that is the case, this team is doomed for more failure in 2013 and beyond. They've already got $65.5 M committed to 8 players and likely around $10 M for the rest of the guys. That leaves them with $5 M , at most, to fill a number of holes. This team looks to be in bad shape for a number of years and frankly, I don't know if I want to put my disposable income and time into a team that is run by a bunch of buffoons. I am going to let the offseason play out and see what happens, but if Ozzie is replaced by a guy like Bo Porter or Mike Lowell, Beinfest retains his job, Heath Bell stays on the team, and payroll is cut ... I am likely done with this team. Eventually even the owners change. You just have to be patient.

Ozzie Guillen not surprised. http://espn.go.com/m...st-homer-antics What's dumber, making that stupid gesture while rounding the bases, or the manager of a last place team criticizing a player on another team for making a stupid gesture while rounding the bases? Ozzie likes to act like he's old school, but he is a horrible attention whore himself.

guys he is not going to be the CF for 2013 most likely, or if he is I doubt he's their long-term solution. Relax. We're just having a little fun.

He's 2 for 25 this season. :| He'll fit right in.

For you conspiracy junkies, wonder if there was any coincidence about the timing of this with the twitter blowup stuff. I bet he slipped on some breast milk and aggravated his knee.

I think everyone should be allowed to say what they want to say via social media, but he has no right to take that picture. It's in public, so he's well within his rights to take the picture and post it. I don't get his objection though. I suppose he finds it gross or maybe low class.

lol what an awful article...i'm sure they planned that Bell, Reyes and Hanley would be underperforming and that Lomo and Gaby would take giant dumps on the field all year and that Buck wouldn't even be hitting his weight...IT WAS A PLAN! an evil scheme...awful awful article This team needs to find some players to build around, and then keep them long term. This constant rollover of players makes it hard to build a fan base.

How many f***ing threads do we need on what's going on? Would you rather talk about the past, or a future we can't predict?

I don't think they're very big on metrics. They hired an opponent to sabermetrics in Ozzie. It may not be the most unpopular move ever to unhire him at the end of the season.

Not sure if he's a habitual Samson/Loria hater but I ran accross this article tonight. Just thought Id share it. http://sports.yahoo....w-stadium-.html So far it's not a fire sale. If they follow up these moves by trading Johnson, then he will have a case.

They do have a Giancarlo Stanton one now on the website. My advice: Rent, don't buy.

Who do we sell off next?

What was the point of a retractable roof that added a ton to the cost of the stadium, if we're just going to keep it closed?

I don't feel it's over at all... Sure they're not talking about it on sports radio but the sentiment is still there. I seriously am worried that attendance will be affected It will be impossible to tell one way or the other.