August 5, 200422 yr I read your trash talk regr Penny, as usual, you speak without knowing facts. As far as Brad being in it for the money, the Marlins were approached by Brads agent before the season began to try to work a deal to sign him for a 3-4 yr deal for a WHOLE LOT LESS than he ever would have mad thru arbitration, they sd no, when he started off so strong, then they came to him and sd ok, we will do it now if you will make it happen, so he sd no. Not one player on the field, is out there for any reason other than the love of the game, their talent and THE MONEY. It is a business, for the owners as well as the players. As far as Brad and Jack having a problem, only once, when Jack and Rosey took him out of the rotation and told the other team members before telling Brad. Jack actually told Brad he respected him for standing up for himself. One of the 1st phone calls Brad recvd after his debut with the dodgers was from Jack, he told Brad how proud he was of him and that he really loved Brad. Josh Beckett on the other hand, trashes Jack every chance he gets, yet you have no problem with that. I sat with a member of Jacks family at the mets game who told me Josh gives Jack alot of crap, all the time. But then again, he is your golden boy, he is the one to save the Marlins. Well, I hope soon that he lives up to his potential. I am glad Brad was traded. The fans and the organization has made him feel so welcome, and they see what Brad brings to the team. You guys never did. 496408[/snapback] 1) I don't like Beckett. I say he is a cocky bastard who has done little outside of last season and gets a free pass with many as did Penny for bad performances. 2) I said Penny could never reach his potential in Florida. For whatever reason he needed the change and was glad that the Marlins shipped him off to Los Angeles. 3) For the time he was here, I could not stand the way Brad Penny pitched on the mound personally. Once he lost his cool on a bad call by an umpire or something went wrong like an error, Brad wouldn't last too long out there, So before you start ranting, realize I don't like Beckett or Penny. 496578[/snapback] Quick question..do you like ANY Marlins?? Maybe we should have traded YOU instead of Choi? =|
August 5, 200422 yr penny pitched his best game in 2 months the other day in LA. i would of loved to keep him...but maybe a change of scenery is what he needed to motivate him all over again. sad to say but it could be true :plain
August 5, 200422 yr penny pitched his best game in 2 months the other day in LA. i would of loved to keep him...but maybe a change of scenery is what he needed to motivate him all over again. sad to say but it could be true :plain 496585[/snapback] Penny just didn't seem like the Marlins were the team he was going to stay with for long. Yet season after season he wasn't traded. He stayed what? 5 season? In that time I will give him that he was .500 at worst on the season, but he had too many mind issues on the mound and loses his cool way too easily. This change was needed. I hope we get a hardliner as the next manager to put Beckett in his place.
August 5, 200422 yr I would have rather traded benitez... 496589[/snapback] No, you can try and resign Benitez. Penny was most likely to go.
August 5, 200422 yr I would have rather traded benitez... 496589[/snapback] No, you can try and resign Benitez. Penny was most likely to go. 496590[/snapback] huh? There was probably a better chance of Penny being on the team next year than Benitez. If we traded Benitez at least we could've gotten something for him instead of losing him to free agency. We could've always traded Penny in the winter if we couldn't hammer out a long-term deal with Penny.
August 5, 200422 yr Umm If that person was me who was mad at penny because he didn't sign my ball, i wasn't actually mad. I just exaggerated. In all honsty, I wish we could have kept Brad. Other than Pavano, it was Brad, because the other starters are all "rocky" Plus, Brad throws some hard heat. I still have your poster on my wall brad...
August 5, 200422 yr I haven't heard anybody say they were mad at Penny because they didn't sign a ball.
August 5, 200422 yr I said that, when i went to tampa, i was mad that he barely acknowledged me. But i got over it real quick.
August 5, 200422 yr I would have rather traded Beckett :confused 496433[/snapback] no thanks, Ill stick with the Golden Boy for now
August 5, 200422 yr I'll stick with him too, if we were gonna trade anyone I would have prefered it to be him (I have my reasons) but I would have liked to keep our 5 intact. I doubt it but I hope one day Brad comes back to add to his Marlin best win total.
August 5, 200422 yr I read your trash talk regr Penny, as usual, you speak without knowing facts. As far as Brad being in it for the money, the Marlins were approached by Brads agent before the season began to try to work a deal to sign him for a 3-4 yr deal for a WHOLE LOT LESS than he ever would have mad thru arbitration, they sd no, when he started off so strong, then they came to him and sd ok, we will do it now if you will make it happen, so he sd no. Not one player on the field, is out there for any reason other than the love of the game, their talent and THE MONEY. It is a business, for the owners as well as the players. As far as Brad and Jack having a problem, only once, when Jack and Rosey took him out of the rotation and told the other team members before telling Brad. Jack actually told Brad he respected him for standing up for himself. One of the 1st phone calls Brad recvd after his debut with the dodgers was from Jack, he told Brad how proud he was of him and that he really loved Brad. Josh Beckett on the other hand, trashes Jack every chance he gets, yet you have no problem with that. I sat with a member of Jacks family at the mets game who told me Josh gives Jack alot of crap, all the time. But then again, he is your golden boy, he is the one to save the Marlins. Well, I hope soon that he lives up to his potential. I am glad Brad was traded. The fans and the organization has made him feel so welcome, and they see what Brad brings to the team. You guys never did. 496408[/snapback] Son of a bitch!!!!!!!! What was the offer to the Marlins? If it was a good offer, I'm going to be pissed that we didn't resign him! We better resign Pavano, Lo Duca, and Guil after this year or this trade will really suck! I still can't believe we included Choi and traded for Enc. :mad :
August 5, 200422 yr Author And what bothers me about you cape, is that you think your opinion about Beckett or Penny is the way it is. You dont know Jack about either really. You make assumptions and that is how it is??? I dont think so, and for the record, I am sure they wouldnt like you either. Brad never ever got caught up in the #1, 2 or 3 starter, it didnt matter to him. Everyone had a job to do, trust me, none of them go out there and plan on being mediocre!
August 5, 200422 yr I read your trash talk regr Penny, as usual, you speak without knowing facts. As far as Brad being in it for the money, the Marlins were approached by Brads agent before the season began to try to work a deal to sign him for a 3-4 yr deal for a WHOLE LOT LESS than he ever would have mad thru arbitration, they sd no, when he started off so strong, then they came to him and sd ok, we will do it now if you will make it happen, so he sd no. Not one player on the field, is out there for any reason other than the love of the game, their talent and THE MONEY. It is a business, for the owners as well as the players. As far as Brad and Jack having a problem, only once, when Jack and Rosey took him out of the rotation and told the other team members before telling Brad. Jack actually told Brad he respected him for standing up for himself. One of the 1st phone calls Brad recvd after his debut with the dodgers was from Jack, he told Brad how proud he was of him and that he really loved Brad. Josh Beckett on the other hand, trashes Jack every chance he gets, yet you have no problem with that. I sat with a member of Jacks family at the mets game who told me Josh gives Jack alot of crap, all the time. But then again, he is your golden boy, he is the one to save the Marlins. Well, I hope soon that he lives up to his potential. I am glad Brad was traded. The fans and the organization has made him feel so welcome, and they see what Brad brings to the team. You guys never did. 496408[/snapback] Just because you are Brad's boyfriend doesnt mean you have to generalize all the fans here. I dont think Brad has the heart to be a #1. So what? I still liked his ability. But let's call a spade a spade here. Brad was going to make TOO MUCH MONEY for this organization down the road, so when the chance came along to make the whole team better, Beinfest pulled the trigger. What is wrong with that? And why the anger? Take it somewhere else - especially if you think none of us care.
August 5, 200422 yr Author I have never generalized all the fans here, many times I have thanked those that supported Brad and the other players. I know that the fans here are only a small percent of all the fans, its the ones talking smack that anger me, not just with Brad, but all the players, as well as the coaches. I am not angry that the Marlins traded Brad, I happen to think it was the best thing that could have happened to him and the organization was very good to him. You have no idea what kind of heart Brad has, its people making comments like that, you dont even know him, you have no right to judge him. Its your opinion yes, but again, you dont know him.
August 5, 200422 yr The amount of trash that has been written about Penny and Choi over the past few days has been ridiculous. "Fatass 5th starter" and "average 1B" my ass. The more I think about it has been going on for a long long time. Bunch of idiots who have no idea what the f*** they're talking about. I wish Penny well and hope he comes back to pitch for us when the new stadium opens.
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