February 21, 200521 yr Am posting this cause i wanna see how many people on this forum acually think these guys got big and stats blew up cause they hit the weight room....And then i wanna see who are the ones that think stats changed because of the steroids...
February 21, 200521 yr Roids: Barry Bonds Roger Clemens Gary Sheffield Pudge Juan Gonzalez Jim Thome Bret Boone Luis Gonzalez Mark McGwire Eric Gagne Sammy Sosa Admin Walker Nomar Garciaparra Non-roids: Ben Sheets Albert Pujols Miguel Cabrera Jim Edmonds Vlad Carlos Beltran Pedro Martinez Randy Johnson ARod Quick list of premier pitchers and sluggers.
February 21, 200521 yr What guys are you talking about specifically, because there are guys in both categories. All the recent 60+ HR guys, McGwire, Sosa, Bonds are in the steroid group I'm afraid.
February 21, 200521 yr Non-roids: Jim Edmonds 691523[/snapback] I certainly dont think Edmonds took roids but the numbers(mainly his jump in SLG%) could support it if you thought so
February 21, 200521 yr Why do you think Eric Gagne took steroids? I don't think they would help him much as a pitcher.
February 21, 200521 yr why does roger get this huge mark for taking roids? i guess nolan ryan took them too.
February 21, 200521 yr Why do you think Eric Gagne took steroids? I don't think they would help him much as a pitcher. 691545[/snapback] He went from a skinny guy that threw 90mph to a huge dude that throws 98mph. I think Edmonds numbers are helped more by Busch than anything.
February 21, 200521 yr Why do you think Eric Gagne took steroids? I don't think they would help him much as a pitcher. 691545[/snapback] He went from a skinny guy that threw 90mph to a huge dude that throws 98mph. I think Edmonds numbers are helped more by Busch than anything. 691609[/snapback] I dotn agree with Pudge, Gagne, or Thome. Thome's roids are beer and butterfingers.
February 21, 200521 yr Why do you think Eric Gagne took steroids? I don't think they would help him much as a pitcher. 691545[/snapback] He went from a skinny guy that threw 90mph to a huge dude that throws 98mph. I think Edmonds numbers are helped more by Busch than anything. 691609[/snapback] He went from throwing 90 MPH to throwing 98MPH because he worked hard after Tommy John. And Tommy John by it selfs gives you a little more MPH to what you threw before.
February 21, 200521 yr Roids: Barry Bonds Roger Clemens Gary Sheffield Pudge Juan Gonzalez Jim Thome Bret Boone Luis Gonzalez Mark McGwire Eric Gagne Sammy Sosa Admin Walker Nomar Garciaparra Non-roids: Ben Sheets Albert Pujols Miguel Cabrera Jim Edmonds Vlad Carlos Beltran Pedro Martinez Randy Johnson ARod Frank Thomas
February 21, 200521 yr Major dap to Frank Thomas. He was actually calling for stricter steroid testing. What a badass. :notworthy
February 21, 200521 yr Major dap to Frank Thomas. He was actually calling for stricter steroid testing. What a badass. :notworthy 691707[/snapback] cuz he was off it by then what a snitch! :mischief
February 21, 200521 yr Roids: Barry Bonds Roger Clemens Gary Sheffield Pudge Juan Gonzalez Jim Thome Bret Boone Luis Gonzalez Mark McGwire Eric Gagne Sammy Sosa Admin Walker Nomar Garciaparra Take Walker out and throw in Brady Anderson and I agree. Walker is Coors inflated more than anything. And Add John Smoltz to the Didn't Roid list. He was another one that's been calling out the Union for horrible testing and he's always been a freak of nature.
February 21, 200521 yr Worst thing about this whole steroid thing is assuming guys took steroids who probably didn't.
February 22, 200521 yr Question...why does Albert Pujols automatically get a free pass? 691896[/snapback] for the same reason clemens automatically gets the red mark of juice.
February 22, 200521 yr Question...why does Albert Pujols automatically get a free pass? 691896[/snapback] for the same reason clemens automatically gets the red mark of juice. 691929[/snapback] Agreed. Hor$e $h!t
February 22, 200521 yr any good player who has a large build is under attack just the nature of the beast and its lame
February 22, 200521 yr any good player who has a large build is under attack just the nature of the beast and its lame 691936[/snapback] Very....Its tiring...the fans of baseball are the ones who are tearing it down.
February 22, 200521 yr Question...why does Albert Pujols automatically get a free pass? 691896[/snapback] Lack of bitch-tits and acne coupled with a normal-sized head.
February 22, 200521 yr Question...why does Albert Pujols automatically get a free pass? 691896[/snapback] Lack of bitch-tits and acne coupled with a normal-sized head. 691939[/snapback] But hes a hoss and he has had an on-going injury......
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