SongInTheAir Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 not pinch hitting for the ice-cold jeff conine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Oh come on, you can't blame Jack for thatt. And if he did pinch hit for Niner and the person called upon struck out, you'd be blaming Jack for that as well. If you want to point fingers and if anything cost us the game, it was Easley's error which scored the second and ultimately winning run, not a managerial decision. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prinmemito Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I disagree. The huge mistake was sitting Castillo when he's been on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMania Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Hey we lost (get ready for 60 more), thats fine because we took the series. If we keep winning series we will be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted April 24, 2005 Author Share Posted April 24, 2005 im just upset, i know hindsight is 20/20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins97+03WC Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Conine didnt help his cause today. He left 7 men on and we lost by one. Im guessing that put his confidence down pretty low. He has to take advantage of his chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsChik305 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Conine showed no patience. He could have walked if he had not swung on balls. If he wasnt batting, we would have scored some runs. He was fooled by so many pitches today. But that error by Easley is what angered me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Conine in his career is a great clutch hitter. No reason to PH for him there. He hits the game tying homer and Jack's a genius for not PH'ing for him Im guessing that put his confidence down pretty low. He has to take advantage of his chances. He's not a rookie, he's a long time vet. He can put AB's behind him without losing "confidence". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins97+03WC Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 He's not a rookie, he's a long time vet. He can put AB's behind him without losing "confidence". He has to worry if hes getting to old though to play good enough to stay in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 He has to worry if hes getting to old though to play good enough to stay in the league. 753878[/snapback] What do you base that on? The fact that he put up about his average numbers last season? He's not accostumed to the role he's in this season getting AB's once or twice a week so it's unfair to make a statement like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinGuru Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Did somebody throw a bucket of water on the mermaids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins97+03WC Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 The fact that he put up about his average numbers last season? He's not accostumed to the role he's in this season getting AB's once or twice a week so it's unfair to make a statement like that. Im just trying to say that the better he plays the more opportunities. Today hurt a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Conine showed no patience. He could have walked if he had not swung on balls. If he wasnt batting, we would have scored some runs. He was fooled by so many pitches today. But that error by Easley is what angered me.. 753873[/snapback] That was not lack of patience, it was because the strike zone was so ridiculous. If he didn't swing they would have been called strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollyberry Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Did somebody throw a bucket of water on the mermaids? 753884[/snapback] :o Seriously.. At the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Conine showed no patience. He could have walked if he had not swung on balls. If he wasnt batting, we would have scored some runs. He was fooled by so many pitches today. But that error by Easley is what angered me.. 753873[/snapback] blame the umpire's enormous strike zone today for lack of patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Did somebody throw a bucket of water on the mermaids? 753884[/snapback] I don't know about today, but last week when the Mermaids in bikinis were riding in that stupid boat car around the field, one of the grounds crew people threw a bucket of water on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Whenever we lose a game, Jack should listen to this song... i guess we've had our fun but it seems our fun is over now and that's all right it's all right time for me to move along and after all is said and done i'll be all right and it's all right tell me something that's sure to break my heart cause everything's my fault and i know i deserve to be alone cause everything's my fault here we go again unsuccessful to make amends but that's all right and it's all right i've tried as hard as i can but i can't can't seem to understand oh it's all right and it's all right tell me something that's sure to break my heart cause everything's my fault and i know i deserve to be alone cause everything's my fault i guess it's over now your honesty has all run out but that's all right and it's all right i just can't seem to see how the hell you can make believe that it's all right and it's all right tell me something that's sure to break my heart cause everything's my fault and i know i deserve to be alone cause everything's my fault and everything's my fault and everything's my fault and everything's my fault and everything's my fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollyberry Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 That strike Zone was WAY too big... Some of those calls were not even close to being a strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Did somebody throw a bucket of water on the mermaids? 753884[/snapback] I don't know about today, but last week when the Mermaids in bikinis were riding in that stupid boat car around the field, one of the grounds crew people threw a bucket of water on them. 753893[/snapback] I remember when the opposing pen would splash Billy as he rode on his boat. Good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins97+03WC Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 He was swinging at balls obviously outside the zone because the strike zone was so ridiculous and if he didn't swing they would have been called strikes. The pitch he swung at in his first at bat was on the dirt. The strike zone didn't affect that. If the ump would have called that a strike then he would have been thrown out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 That strike Zone was WAY too big... Some of those calls were not even close to being a strike. 753897[/snapback] At least he called it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 He was swinging at balls obviously outside the zone because the strike zone was so ridiculous and if he didn't swing they would have been called strikes. The pitch he swung at in his first at bat was on the dirt. The strike zone didn't affect that. If the ump would have called that a strike then he would have been thrown out of the game. 753899[/snapback] And how many players would've been fooled by that? Tommy or Rich even commented on the fact he had never seen this guy before and couldn't expect that. I don't know who you wanted in there instead of him but there's a good chance they'd K on that pitch too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 He was swinging at balls obviously outside the zone because the strike zone was so ridiculous and if he didn't swing they would have been called strikes. The pitch he swung at in his first at bat was on the dirt. The strike zone didn't affect that. If the ump would have called that a strike then he would have been thrown out of the game. 753899[/snapback] You need to look at all his AB's, not just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGonzalez11 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 It's tough to throw the blame on Conine -- starting once every other week is incredibly difficult on anyone, let alone a guy who has been accustomed to playing every night his entire career. That being said, he looked absolutley terrible in all of his AB's tonight. Considering how bad Niner looked all day long, I agree it was a mistake to not pinch hit for him. I would have brought up Miguel for Niner and taken my chances with Gonzalez especially considering we had no one to play SS had the game been tied. I also don't understand sitting Cabs vs. a lefty and Castillo when he's on fire right before a day off. If he wanted to give anyone a day off it should have been Delgado vs. the lefthanded Claussen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 He was swinging at balls obviously outside the zone because the strike zone was so ridiculous and if he didn't swing they would have been called strikes. The pitch he swung at in his first at bat was on the dirt. The strike zone didn't affect that. If the ump would have called that a strike then he would have been thrown out of the game. 753899[/snapback] well that was not knowing the pitcher would throw that in that spot. remember we had never seen him before. and we i mean every player and coach on the team save in video, which isnt the exact same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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