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Official All-Star Selection Show Thread

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if anyone is wondering why MLB is lacking the popularity of the NFL and NBA, all you gotta do is look at the rosters of the ALl Star game

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Last time I checked MLB is WAY more popular than NBA.

 

Regular season and postseason ratings can also back that up.

2005 NBA Finals average ratings- 8.2 with a 15 share.

 

2004 World Series- 15.8 with a 25 share.

 

So a playoff series in which there was a sweep outrated a series that lasted seven games. The 04 series was the highest rated since 99 and most watched since 95. MLB ratings are going up while the NBA's ratings keep falling.

 

Stop being such a tool. You only say this because your Giants aren't one of the teams MLB is showcasing to America anymore.

 

Baseball's image will only improve with Bonds and your Giants stinking it up. Now it's time for the clean stars to represent the game. It's not like Bonds represented the game in a positive way anyway.

ROFL@Jeter not making it... He's going to probably win the 30th man vote.

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He's not making it. He up against an entire nation and against his own team mate.

if anyone is wondering why MLB is lacking the popularity of the NFL and NBA, all you gotta do is look at the rosters of the ALl Star game

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Mays24 watching the selection show:

 

"Where is Chris Hammond!!!!! He's 100x better then Jason Isringhausen!!!"

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Cards land six pack in All-Star Game

Eckstein, Edmonds, Rolen earn starting nods

 

 

David Eckstein will start the All-Star Game in his first year in the National League. (Tom Gannam/AP)

 

ST. LOUIS -- Is it too late to change the National League's All-Star jerseys to a nice red-and-white look? Maybe add a bat with two birds?

 

Six Cardinals -- the highest total from any team in either league -- will be donning their road grays on July 12 in Detroit for the Midsummer Classic, including at least three and possibly as many as five starters. Shortstop David Eckstein, center fielder Jim Edmonds and third baseman Scott Rolen were all voted in as starters, with Albert Pujols, Chris Carpenter and Jason Isringhausen also named to the squad.

 

It's the most All-Stars the Cardinals have had since 1959, when Ken Boyer, Joe Cunningham, Vinegar Bend Mizell, Stan Musial, Hal Smith and Bill White were all named to the first of two games that year. The club record is eight All-Stars, set in 1943.

 

The defending National League champions hit the midway point of their season on Sunday at 51-30, with the best record in the league and a double-digit lead in the NL Central. So it's probably not that surprising that six Redbirds will be playing in Detroit.

 

"It definitely helps out being on a winning team," said Eckstein. "No matter what your numbers are, if you're on a winning team you look a lot better."

 

There's a good chance that manager Tony La Russa, who is helming the senior circuit's team, will name Pujols as his designated hitter. And Carpenter is at least in the running to be the starting pitcher, though Dontrelle Willis of the Marlins is considered the favorite at this point. Roger Clemens, whose 1.41 ERA pretty much leads the universe, also may figure into the decision.

 

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"Obviously"] has done all year, he deserves it just as much as anybody else. He's been pitching well all year, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if he gets the opportunity."

 

"It"] -- the guys you compete against every time you go out and pitch. If it comes from those guys' date=' those are the guys that play against you, those are the guys that know. And it's an honor when they recommend or select or think that I'm worthy of going up there and pitching."[/quote']

 

"It was something I really wasn"], and then Cesar Izturis jumps ahead of you, and you just didn't know where the ballots were going to fall."

 

"Put it this way: None of my family has booked a plane ticket yet. Tonight I'll call them."

 

"It's nice. It's a nice feeling for people around the country to vote you in. I'm kind of speechless. I don't know what to say. I've had some pretty nice years and had to go home and watch it on TV. To get voted in with that many votes is pretty overwhelming. It's nice. It feels good inside. But I've still got to concentrate and play another week of baseball before I can get into it."

 

"A lot of people talk about"]

 

"It"]"As you get older' date=' things deteriorate a little bit. You have to learn how to pitch a little bit. You don't just rare back and throw the ball anymore. I think I've become a better pitcher throughout the years. I think everybody realizes that strikeouts don't mean as much anymore as they used to when I was younger."[/quote']

if anyone is wondering why MLB is lacking the popularity of the NFL and NBA, all you gotta do is look at the rosters of the ALl Star game

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Last I checked attendance has gone UP in baseball..

 

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17 of 29 teams (not counting the Expos/ Nationals) have had a drop in attendance this year...

NEW YORK -- Cliff Floyd knows the feeling of being left off the All-Star team despite a big season.

 

He protested the last time and was added as a late replacement in 2001. Passed over again on Sunday, the New York Mets' left fielder accepted the snub without complaint.

 

"I will take a first-half start like this for the next five years," Floyd said. "Players with better stats than mine have been left off the All-Star team."

 

Floyd had a 20-game hitting streak in April and is batting .288 with 21 home runs and 53 RBIs. He sat out Sunday against Florida, described by manager Willie Randolph as "a little banged up" after several tumbling catches and frequent collisions with the left-field wall.

 

Floyd has been the cornerstone of the Mets with long home runs and acrobatic defensive plays, often trotting off the Shea Stadium field with fans chanting "MVP! MVP!"

 

"I've been fortunate enough to have had the first half that I've had," Floyd said. "I've been healthy and the fans have seen what I can do."

 

In 2001, Floyd was batting .342 with 21 homers and 70 RBIs for the Florida Marlins at the All-Star break. But he was beaten out in fan balloting and was outraged when then-Mets manager Bobby Valentine left him off the NL roster.

 

Floyd was later selected as a replacement for injured pitcher Rick Reed and went 0-for-2 at Safeco Field in Seattle. Floyd batted .317 for the season but was traded the next year, first to Montreal and then to Boston. That winter, he signed as a free agent with the Mets.

 

Injuries cut short his first two seasons in New York and he was prominently mentioned in trade talks last winter. But in the end, he stayed with the Mets and has been the team's best everyday player all year -- All-Star or not.

if anyone is wondering why MLB is lacking the popularity of the NFL and NBA, all you gotta do is look at the rosters of the ALl Star game

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i'm not complaining about the selection, i'm just observing how weak a crop it was to choose from this year...compare this year's all star team to the one 5 years ago...there were 17 surefire hall of famers in that game...this one has a total of 7 (Martinez, Smoltz, Clemens, Rivera, A Rod, Piazza, Pudge)

Look at all these past all star teams...this year's teams don't even come close to them

look at the all star game last time it was in Detroit...I counted 21 Hall of Famers, and I probably missed a couple...do you think 21 guys from this ASG will be in the hall?

2005 NBA Finals average ratings- 8.2 with a 15 share.

 

2004 World Series- 15.8 with a 25 share.

 

So a playoff series in which there was a sweep outrated a series that lasted seven games. The 04 series was the highest rated since 99 and most watched since 95. MLB ratings are going up while the NBA's ratings keep falling.

 

Stop being such a tool. You only say this because your Giants aren't one of the teams MLB is showcasing to America anymore.

 

Baseball's image will only improve with Bonds and your Giants stinking it up. Now it's time for the clean stars to represent the game. It's not like Bonds represented the game in a positive way anyway.

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Hmm...have you thought it was because the MLB playoffs drag on a lot longer? You don't think that if they added another round to the MLB playoffs and made every series best of 7, MLB postseason ratings would drop below NBA?

Like baseball, fans will buy tickets to an NBA game because of their love of the sport or because of the team they're playing, like the Lakers. UNlike MLB, NBA has guys that people will buy a ticket just because they're playing...Shaq, KG, AI, Kobe, Lebron, Kidd, Wade, even Duncan, the list goes on and on...Baseball only has one guy, and he's been injured the entire year

who do you see in more ads, Lebron or Pujols? Who do you see people wearing more jerseys of, Kobe or A Rod? Who do you see more kids wanting to be like, Shaq or Pedro?

Face it, MLB lacks the starpower other sports have...

I hate Carlos Beltran. The End.

2005 NBA Finals average ratings- 8.2 with a 15 share.

 

2004 World Series- 15.8 with a 25 share.

 

So a playoff series in which there was a sweep outrated a series that lasted seven games. The 04 series was the highest rated since 99 and most watched since 95. MLB ratings are going up while the NBA's ratings keep falling.

 

Stop being such a tool. You only say this because your Giants aren't one of the teams MLB is showcasing to America anymore.

 

Baseball's image will only improve with Bonds and your Giants stinking it up. Now it's time for the clean stars to represent the game. It's not like Bonds represented the game in a positive way anyway.

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Hmm...have you thought it was because the MLB playoffs drag on a lot longer? You don't think that if they added another round to the MLB playoffs and made every series best of 7, MLB postseason ratings would drop below NBA?

Like baseball, fans will buy tickets to an NBA game because of their love of the sport or because of the team they're playing, like the Lakers. UNlike MLB, NBA has guys that people will buy a ticket just because they're playing...Shaq, KG, AI, Kobe, Lebron, Kidd, Wade, even Duncan, the list goes on and on...Baseball only has one guy, and he's been injured the entire year

who do you see in more ads, Lebron or Pujols? Who do you see people wearing more jerseys of, Kobe or A Rod? Who do you see more kids wanting to be like, Shaq or Pedro?

Face it, MLB lacks the starpower other sports have...

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If MLB added another round to the playoffs ratings would drop but NOT below the NBA.

 

 

Baseball and the NBA are marketed differently. NBA is marketed to the ghetto teenie boppers of America. One reason you see more of the NBA jerseys on the street is because all the rappers and such wear them. Another reason is cost a baseball jersey with a name on the back is gonna set you back $125+ and NBA jersey is what 70-80 bucks.

 

NBA and MLB are different. In the NBA you can market one player because most of the time they make a huge difference on a team. MLB has no choice but to only markets teams as a whole because the fans don't go out to the ballpark to see a guy hitting 40 HRs and yet his team is 20 games under 500. Fans only go out to see an elite player on a bad team when something is on the line (playoffs, record, etc.).

All I hear is someone who has a strained view on baseball because his team is no longer competitive and his idol turned out to be a cheater. It's understandable.

Morgan Ensberg got snubbed big time.

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Indeed. Especially considering the fact that Rolen is playing third base when he clearly doesn't deserve it.

The hometown Tigers got kicked in the balls.

 

Pudge? C'mon this guy hasn't even been close to the best Tiger this year.

 

Kyle Farnsworth has been better than Baez...why not just put Crawford in to begin with?

 

And Craig Monroe has a higher avg, more hr, more rbi's, higher OBP, and higher slugging pct than Crawford. What the hell? Why isn't he on the extra voting?

The hometown Tigers got kicked in the balls.

 

Pudge? C'mon this guy hasn't even been close to the best Tiger this year.

 

Kyle Farnsworth has been better than Baez...why not just put Crawford in to begin with?

 

And Craig Monroe has a higher avg, more hr, more rbi's, higher OBP, and higher slugging pct than Crawford. What the hell? Why isn't he on the extra voting?

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I would've put Brandon Inge in there

The hometown Tigers got kicked in the balls.

 

Pudge? C'mon this guy hasn't even been close to the best Tiger this year.

 

Kyle Farnsworth has been better than Baez...why not just put Crawford in to begin with?

 

And Craig Monroe has a higher avg, more hr, more rbi's, higher OBP, and higher slugging pct than Crawford. What the hell? Why isn't he on the extra voting?

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I would've put Brandon Inge in there

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As would I...there were just too many good 3Bs this year.

The hometown Tigers got kicked in the balls.

 

Pudge?? C'mon this guy hasn't even been close to the best Tiger this year.

 

Kyle Farnsworth has been better than Baez...why not just put Crawford in to begin with?

 

And Craig Monroe has a higher avg, more hr, more rbi's, higher OBP, and higher slugging pct than Crawford.? What the hell?? Why isn't he on the extra voting?

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I would've put Brandon Inge in there

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As would I...there were just too many good 3Bs this year.

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First of all, you don't have to take position into account with Inge, because he can play anywhere in the field...hell, since catcher is his natural position, you could put him on the team as a catcher

Secondly, there is no way Shea Hillenbrand deserves a spot on the team over Inge...the numbers are about equal, but if you factor in that Tiger Stadium is a major pitchers park as well as Inge being the most versatile player in the game, Inge is easily the more deserving

Thirdly, how can you leave off the guy on the host team that's having the best year?

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