Ramp Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Ben Sheets is the hitter at the plate and Jack yanks Olsen I dont approve edit: Olsen is at 108 pitches.... if Olsen has anything left, I would have given him the shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted July 4, 2005 Author Share Posted July 4, 2005 and now Bump gets to lead off the bottom of the 6th? edit: Conine to PH.. still dont think we needed to waste Bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Somebody needs to explain to Jack what a double switch is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marlin Man Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 totally agree, should have let him face the pitcher and get the chance to pick up the win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHands69 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Entire 8th inning :plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NirvanaNole Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 The Mota/Harris switch was one of the most bush league things I've ever seen. They should have either left Mota in the game or pinch hit with Harris or Willingham from the beginning of the AB. :whistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdbw Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Definitely a couple of mistakes by McKeon tonight. What'd he drink before the game? tough loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Fish!!! Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 I was watching the game on mlb.tv and the Brewer's announcers were beside themselves with the way McKeon was managing and they said they've never seen decisions like that ever in a game. With the all-star game coming up now would be a perfect time to put Jack into retirement. :thumbdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogFish Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 The biggest question is Did the pitching change affect the outcome of the game with Olsen or did the lack of hitting and 2 errors? 108 pitches is a lot of pitches for a guy coming up from double A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Olsen pitched a helluva game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beinfest4Prez Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Sheets was nasty tonight. Does every time we face a marquee pitcher like Sheets mean our offense sucks? Sheets curveball was working the best today then it has all season and when thats on, he is almost unhittable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag5 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 I won't go into specifics because everyone else did. This game and the decisions Jack made were beyond odd. Did it cost us the game, I don't know. But I do know these types of moves will cost us games in the future. As I have been saying here since April 12th....Jack must go. He simply is not a good gameday manager, has never used a pen well and these days does not have support in the clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Jack has made a lot of bizarre moves with the bullpen, but this one definintely ranks up there with the oddest of the odd. Yeah, I thought it was a pretty ridiculous move, mind you Ben Sheets has not even a SINGLE base hit this season. I'm thinking Jack assumed the Brewers were going to pinch hit for Sheets, because then I could understand the move but otherwise there is absolutely no explanation for it. Let the kid get out of the inning, especially with one of the worst hitting pitchers coming up! That move will have far more negative effects on Olsen's psyche than allowing him to throw another 5 or 6 pitches at the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GulliverJax Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Ben Sheets is the hitter at the plate and Jack yanks Olsen I dont approve edit: Olsen is at 108 pitches.... if Olsen has anything left, I would have given him the shot 839671[/snapback] You said it, Olsen was at 108. He wasn't hitting the zone. He could have walked Sheets (for the second time) for all we know... and then you guys would have been blaming Jack for not pulling Olsen! Didn't need to waste Bump? He faced one batter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogFish Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Accord, I disagree. The kid's psyche would have been damaged more if McKeon lets him pitch to Sheets and he ends up losing the game because of a walk or whatever. It was a similar situation in Tampa when he first pitched. He threw great but was taking out of the game at a time whereby he could get a win but not a loss. Today, it was no decision or a loss if he stayed in. It also proved that the bull pen could get him out of damage if the situation exists in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Double switch? But that means using a player from the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Jack's moves kept the game in hand. None of the reasons we lost yesterday had to do with what Jack or didn't do, it was (the lack of) hitting and defense that cost us this game. And as for teaching Jack what a double-switch is, he probably done more than some people on this have had bowel movements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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