July 21, 200521 yr ...And now you all are generalizing the Army and how it functions assuming that lower enlisted people don't have access to important information. You don't know what it was like because you simply were not there. You have no say in how JTF functions. 869361[/snapback] ya cause the E-1, E-2, E-3 really know a lot of classified information. Hell you could probably say that the E-4 really only has any knowledge of the specialized mission they may be on at any given time. What rank is the MP's these days anyway? 869364[/snapback] I was an E-4 (Specialist). I am sorry, but I cannot talk about intelligence clearances. I don't want to risk getting in trouble. The only things I can talk about are the things found in the media or very generic parts of my job. 869368[/snapback] Exactly your intelligence clearances are job specific mostly and you probably know very little about the whole picture because those higher than you have their own security clearances where they cannot disclose specific information to the enlisted. its not really anything new with the armed forces. most times you know what you need to know and thats about it. 869371[/snapback] I can say I worked all the blocks, did escorts, monitored interrogations. That much can be found in "The Wire". And the rest, let's just say interrogators have big mouths. Rank has little significance in determining clearance. It is the job and I worked EVERYWHERE. 869373[/snapback] good for you. do you think you had as much knowledge on the situation as the colonels, majors, generals etc?
July 21, 200521 yr And again, I really don't want bad blood with any of you. I enjoy discussing the Marlins with you all and sitting through game threads with you. So please don't let the differences we do have stand in the way of our love for the Fish. No two people are exactly alike, but given the chance we can all find pieces of ourselves in even the most diverse people. I am sorry for any negative comments that might have insulted your values. That is definitely not what I was going for. I just get careless when I get upset about something and I hate the fact that people in London are being killed and the killing may continue with no way to stop it. I want terrorism to end and that is impossible considering the world in which we live.
July 21, 200521 yr ...And now you all are generalizing the Army and how it functions assuming that lower enlisted people don't have access to important information.? You don't know what it was like because you simply were not there.? You have no say in how JTF functions. 869361[/snapback] ya cause the E-1, E-2, E-3 really know a lot of classified information. Hell you could probably say that the E-4 really only has any knowledge of the specialized mission they may be on at any given time. What rank is the MP's these days anyway? 869364[/snapback] I was an E-4 (Specialist). I am sorry, but I cannot talk about intelligence clearances. I don't want to risk getting in trouble. The only things I can talk about are the things found in the media or very generic parts of my job. 869368[/snapback] Exactly your intelligence clearances are job specific mostly and you probably know very little about the whole picture because those higher than you have their own security clearances where they cannot disclose specific information to the enlisted. its not really anything new with the armed forces. most times you know what you need to know and thats about it. 869371[/snapback] I can say I worked all the blocks, did escorts, monitored interrogations. That much can be found in "The Wire". And the rest, let's just say interrogators have big mouths. Rank has little significance in determining clearance. It is the job and I worked EVERYWHERE. 869373[/snapback] good for you. do you think you had as much knowledge on the situation as the colonels, majors, generals etc? 869375[/snapback] No, I am sure they knew more about each "resident's" individual file. All I knew is what I heard from their spooks and what they told me themselves. And believe it or not, a lot of them will admit to doing things. That stopped once the tribunals started. hehe.
July 21, 200521 yr And again, I really don't want bad blood with any of you. I enjoy discussing the Marlins with you all and sitting through game threads with you. So please don't let the differences we do have stand in the way of our love for the Fish. No two people are exactly alike, but given the chance we can all find pieces of ourselves in even the most diverse people. I am sorry for any negative comments that might have insulted your values. That is definitely not what I was going for. I just get careless when I get upset about something and I hate the fact that people in London are being killed and the killing may continue with no way to stop it. I want terrorism to end and that is impossible considering the world in which we live. 869377[/snapback] Touching. Really, it was touching to see you contradict yourself time and time again. And it was truly touching that apology of yours. Almost as touching as a Yassir Arafat condemnation of terrorism in the Palestinians. Almost.
July 21, 200521 yr And again, I really don't want bad blood with any of you.? I enjoy discussing the Marlins with you all and sitting through game threads with you.? So please don't let the differences we do have stand in the way of our love for the Fish.? No two people are exactly alike, but given the chance we can all find pieces of ourselves in even the most diverse people. I am sorry for any negative comments that might have insulted your values.? That is definitely not what I was going for.? I just get careless when I get upset about something and I hate the fact that people in London are being killed and the killing may continue with no way to stop it.? I want terrorism to end and that is impossible considering the world in which we live. 869377[/snapback] Touching. Really, it was touching to see you contradict yourself time and time again. And it was truly touching that apology of yours. Almost as touching as a Yassir Arafat condemnation of terrorism in the Palestinians. Almost. 869381[/snapback] Well I can see that the maturity will never come with you. It is sad that you feel that you must resort to sarcasm while discussing a serious topic. The only contradictions I made are when I retracted my generalizations. I admitted I was wrong.
July 21, 200521 yr This whole thread is comedy. Marlin253 you shouldve quit like two pages ago. They will never understand your view and you will never understand their view. Its just funny that its like 10 people v.s. this one guy. I think Marlin253 is trying to up his ridiculous post count in such little time.
July 21, 200521 yr And again, I really don't want bad blood with any of you.? I enjoy discussing the Marlins with you all and sitting through game threads with you.? So please don't let the differences we do have stand in the way of our love for the Fish.? No two people are exactly alike, but given the chance we can all find pieces of ourselves in even the most diverse people. I am sorry for any negative comments that might have insulted your values.? That is definitely not what I was going for.? I just get careless when I get upset about something and I hate the fact that people in London are being killed and the killing may continue with no way to stop it.? I want terrorism to end and that is impossible considering the world in which we live. 869377[/snapback] Touching. Really, it was touching to see you contradict yourself time and time again. And it was truly touching that apology of yours. Almost as touching as a Yassir Arafat condemnation of terrorism in the Palestinians. Almost. 869381[/snapback] Well I can see that the maturity will never come with you. It is sad that you feel that you must resort to sarcasm while discussing a serious topic. The only contradictions I made are when I retracted my generalizations. I admitted I was wrong. 869385[/snapback] Too bad that more people on here respect my opinion. I am quite mature, and wasn't the one who decided to ruin the topic by generalizing about liberals. When you ruin a topic, that shows your maturity level or lack thereof. Good job again. I respect your admirable retraction. That was more than we ever got from Tonyi. (Not being sarcastic).
July 21, 200521 yr This whole thread is comedy. Marlin253 you shouldve quit like two pages ago. They will never understand your view and you will never understand their view. Its just funny that its like 10 people v.s. this one guy. I think Marlin253 is trying to up his ridiculous post count in such little time. 869388[/snapback] No, I have no interest in my post count. I just spend too much time on here. :mischief
July 21, 200521 yr And again, I really don't want bad blood with any of you.? I enjoy discussing the Marlins with you all and sitting through game threads with you.? So please don't let the differences we do have stand in the way of our love for the Fish.? No two people are exactly alike, but given the chance we can all find pieces of ourselves in even the most diverse people. I am sorry for any negative comments that might have insulted your values.? That is definitely not what I was going for.? I just get careless when I get upset about something and I hate the fact that people in London are being killed and the killing may continue with no way to stop it.? I want terrorism to end and that is impossible considering the world in which we live. 869377[/snapback] Touching. Really, it was touching to see you contradict yourself time and time again. And it was truly touching that apology of yours. Almost as touching as a Yassir Arafat condemnation of terrorism in the Palestinians. Almost. 869381[/snapback] Well I can see that the maturity will never come with you. It is sad that you feel that you must resort to sarcasm while discussing a serious topic. The only contradictions I made are when I retracted my generalizations. I admitted I was wrong. 869385[/snapback] Too bad that more people on here respect my opinion. I am quite mature, and wasn't the one who decided to ruin the topic by generalizing about liberals. When you ruin a topic, that shows your maturity level or lack thereof. Good job again. I respect your admirable retraction. That was more than we ever got from Tonyi. (Not being sarcastic). 869390[/snapback] I am a very mature 22-year-old, I just have trouble making a point in a safe manner when I feel heated about a situation (Bombings and terrorism). But any maturity I jeopardized was salvaged when I apologized for my rash remarks upon leaving the heat of the moment. Remember, I am the guy that exits the chats all the time because many of the kids are making jokes about their genitals. :blink:
July 21, 200521 yr I think this has run so far off topic, you should change the title. Once again Londoners must deal with disruption and fear, who cares whether it is the "liberals" or "conservatives" you think are to blame, given that the attacks were in Britain, I doubt that GTMO had the slightest thing to do with it. The attackers for the original attacks were born in the UK, approximately 9 miles from where I was born, and live when not at university, and living a few streets away from my brothers house. These were perfectly normal British citizens until 2 weeks ago, and likely had nil to zero contact with anyone at GTMO, other than the UK supporting the US in the Iraq war this has nothing to do with the US, so please either go back to topic or change the title.
July 21, 200521 yr I think this has run so far off topic, you should change the title. Once again Londoners must deal with disruption and fear, who cares whether it is the "liberals" or "conservatives" you think are to blame, given that the attacks were in Britain, I doubt that GTMO had the slightest thing to do with it. The attackers for the original attacks were born in the UK, approximately 9 miles from where I was born, and live when not at university, and living a few streets away from my brothers house. These were perfectly normal British citizens until 2 weeks ago, and likely had nil to zero contact with anyone at GTMO, other than the UK supporting the US in the Iraq war this has nothing to do with the US, so please either go back to topic or change the title. 869404[/snapback] Only the bombers are at fault. Nobody was blaming unrelated people for the attacks.
July 22, 200521 yr NOTE: MarlinsFan253 DOES NOT represent the views of the moderate and/or rational wing of the Republican party. To suggest ALL of the left loves terrorist is idiotic. As is suggesting ALL those to the right are religious fanatics. Those in the left love America just as much as the right. They just see everything through a different POV. Open your mind 253, and like someone suggested get off the conservative Kool Aid. You made yourself look like an ass in here.
July 22, 200521 yr NOTE: MarlinsFan253 DOES NOT represent the views of the moderate and/or rational wing of the Republican party. 869426[/snapback] That's okay. Many of the liberals on here don't represent the moderate and/or rational wing of the Democratic party. :peepwall
July 22, 200521 yr NOTE: MarlinsFan253 DOES NOT represent the views of the moderate and/or rational wing of the Republican party. To suggest ALL of the left loves terrorist is idiotic. As is suggesting ALL those to the right are religious fanatics. Those in the left love America just as much as the right. They just see everything through a different POV. Open your mind 253, and like someone suggested get off the conservative Kool Aid. You made yourself look like an ass in here. 869426[/snapback] I NEVER SAID THAT. PEOPLE WERE EXAGGERATING MY WORDS!!!!!!!!
July 22, 200521 yr NOTE: MarlinsFan253 DOES NOT represent the views of the moderate and/or rational wing of the Republican party. To suggest ALL of the left loves terrorist is idiotic. As is suggesting ALL those to the right are religious fanatics. Those in the left love America just as much as the right. They just see everything through a different POV. Open your mind 253, and like someone suggested get off the conservative Kool Aid. You made yourself look like an ass in here. 869426[/snapback] I give a hearty HARUMPH to that my friend. :notworthy :thumbup
July 22, 200521 yr You are all just as crooked as Bush twisting things to manipulate the truth. It is sick. Wake yourselves up.
July 22, 200521 yr You are all just as crooked as Bush twisting things to manipulate the truth. It is sick. Wake yourselves up. 869501[/snapback] You must think you're really special. Here's a clue....you're not.
July 22, 200521 yr You are all just as crooked as Bush twisting things to manipulate the truth.? It is sick.? Wake yourselves up. 869501[/snapback] You must think you're really special. Here's a clue....you're not. 869505[/snapback] I don't. I am just surprised that none of you are even making an attempt to really see what I was trying to say or to halt with the rude sarcasm. You are so determined to interpret what I was saying in a certain way that you wouldn't even listen to an explanation.
July 22, 200521 yr You are all just as crooked as Bush twisting things to manipulate the truth.? It is sick.? Wake yourselves up. 869501[/snapback] You must think you're really special. Here's a clue....you're not. 869505[/snapback] I don't. I am just surprised that none of you are even making an attempt to really see what I was trying to say or to halt with the rude sarcasm. You are so determined to interpret what I was saying in a certain way that you wouldn't even listen to an explanation. 869511[/snapback] It's not rude sarcasm. If everything that goes against what you say rude? Do you have to whine in every thread about other people being "rude"? It's a political forum. This is where we debate political views. People were just ripping your narrow mindedness when it comes to this political view. Then they were ripping the way you backtracked. Take the heat like a man, and stop throwing the rude argument out there.
July 22, 200521 yr You are all just as crooked as Bush twisting things to manipulate the truth.? It is sick.? Wake yourselves up. 869501[/snapback] You must think you're really special. Here's a clue....you're not. 869505[/snapback] I don't. I am just surprised that none of you are even making an attempt to really see what I was trying to say or to halt with the rude sarcasm. You are so determined to interpret what I was saying in a certain way that you wouldn't even listen to an explanation. 869511[/snapback] It's not rude sarcasm. If everything that goes against what you say rude? Do you have to whine in every thread about other people being "rude"? It's a political forum. This is where we debate political views. People were just ripping your narrow mindedness when it comes to this political view. Then they were ripping the way you backtracked. Take the heat like a man, and stop throwing the rude argument out there. 869520[/snapback] I'm narrow-minded because I disagreed with them? That makes no sense. And yes, sarcasm is rude. There are much more appropriate ways to argue political points than to exaggerate people's words and accuse them of drinking "conservative Koolaid". I guess I should stop cutting people slack on these boards all the time because you people never return the favor. As the detainees would say, "You have black hearts."
July 22, 200521 yr NOTE: MarlinsFan253 DOES NOT represent the views of the moderate and/or rational wing of the Republican party. To suggest ALL of the left loves terrorist is idiotic. As is suggesting ALL those to the right are religious fanatics. Those in the left love America just as much as the right. They just see everything through a different POV. Open your mind 253, and like someone suggested get off the conservative Kool Aid. You made yourself look like an ass in here. 869426[/snapback] That would be me. :mischief Amen to that Moneyball.
July 22, 200521 yr You are all just as crooked as Bush twisting things to manipulate the truth.? It is sick.? Wake yourselves up. 869501[/snapback] You must think you're really special. Here's a clue....you're not. 869505[/snapback] I don't. I am just surprised that none of you are even making an attempt to really see what I was trying to say or to halt with the rude sarcasm. You are so determined to interpret what I was saying in a certain way that you wouldn't even listen to an explanation. 869511[/snapback] It's not rude sarcasm. If everything that goes against what you say rude? Do you have to whine in every thread about other people being "rude"? It's a political forum. This is where we debate political views. People were just ripping your narrow mindedness when it comes to this political view. Then they were ripping the way you backtracked. Take the heat like a man, and stop throwing the rude argument out there. 869520[/snapback] I'm narrow-minded because I disagreed with them? That makes no sense. And yes, sarcasm is rude. There are much more appropriate ways to argue political points than to exaggerate people's words and accuse them of drinking "conservative Koolaid". I guess I should stop cutting people slack on these boards all the time because you people never return the favor. As the detainees would say, "You have black hearts." 869525[/snapback] No, you are narrow minded because you accused to left of loving terrorists.
July 22, 200521 yr You are all just as crooked as Bush twisting things to manipulate the truth.? It is sick.? Wake yourselves up. 869501[/snapback] You must think you're really special. Here's a clue....you're not. 869505[/snapback] I don't. I am just surprised that none of you are even making an attempt to really see what I was trying to say or to halt with the rude sarcasm. You are so determined to interpret what I was saying in a certain way that you wouldn't even listen to an explanation. 869511[/snapback] It's not rude sarcasm. If everything that goes against what you say rude? Do you have to whine in every thread about other people being "rude"? It's a political forum. This is where we debate political views. People were just ripping your narrow mindedness when it comes to this political view. Then they were ripping the way you backtracked. Take the heat like a man, and stop throwing the rude argument out there. 869520[/snapback] I'm narrow-minded because I disagreed with them? That makes no sense. And yes, sarcasm is rude. There are much more appropriate ways to argue political points than to exaggerate people's words and accuse them of drinking "conservative Koolaid". I guess I should stop cutting people slack on these boards all the time because you people never return the favor. As the detainees would say, "You have black hearts." 869525[/snapback] No, you are narrow minded because you accused to left of loving terrorists. 869536[/snapback] I'm not going to explain this again. *sigh*
July 22, 200521 yr You are all just as crooked as Bush twisting things to manipulate the truth.? It is sick.? Wake yourselves up. 869501[/snapback] You must think you're really special. Here's a clue....you're not. 869505[/snapback] I don't. I am just surprised that none of you are even making an attempt to really see what I was trying to say or to halt with the rude sarcasm. You are so determined to interpret what I was saying in a certain way that you wouldn't even listen to an explanation. 869511[/snapback] It's not rude sarcasm. If everything that goes against what you say rude? Do you have to whine in every thread about other people being "rude"? It's a political forum. This is where we debate political views. People were just ripping your narrow mindedness when it comes to this political view. Then they were ripping the way you backtracked. Take the heat like a man, and stop throwing the rude argument out there. 869520[/snapback] I'm narrow-minded because I disagreed with them? That makes no sense. And yes, sarcasm is rude. There are much more appropriate ways to argue political points than to exaggerate people's words and accuse them of drinking "conservative Koolaid". I guess I should stop cutting people slack on these boards all the time because you people never return the favor. As the detainees would say, "You have black hearts." 869525[/snapback] No..... This is why we are calling you narrow-minded: Yeah, liberals, free them all! Put them back on the streets! tsk tsk. I know, don't worry. There is just a lot of pressure from liberals to close the place down and I have heard from many people that they should be set free. Obviously, very ignorant people with a naive view of the world. Human or not, we can't feel sorry for terrorists. We must constantly remind ourselves of what they have done and what they will continue to do. When you started to get fried you started to backtrack.
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