Posted August 29, 200519 yr A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the lesson. The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs yesterday. They warned it would backfire. Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in Wellingborough, Northamptonshire. Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome. 'Tolerate but not condone' "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running score," he wrote in the letter "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end of the lesson." Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'. "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own level," said the father of one pupil. Should have do's and don'ts Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of 'do and don't'. "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message. "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes, demeaning the authority of the teacher." Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in Wonderland reasoning'. "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you improve something by discouraging it." 'Praise postcards' The 1,130-pupil school, which was criticised as 'not effective' by Ofsted inspectors last November, also plans to send 'praise postcards' to the parents of children who do not swear and who turn up on time for lessons. Headmaster Alan Large said he had received no complaints about the policy. "The reality is that the fword is part of these young adults' everyday language," he said. "As a temporary policy we are giving them a bit of leeway, but want them to think about the way they talk and how they might do better." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770
August 29, 200519 yr Well, it depends on if they can insult the guy and say "You f-head" or some ish. Otherwise, who cares? I'm in philosophical discussion classes where f-bombs are sometimes dropped and it's really not a big deal. Of course, if used in the wrong context, you could get hated on, but usually not for the word itself. Lenny Bruce said: "A word's suppression is what gives it--its power, its veracity." And I tend to agree with that statement. But if it's just used as an insult, well, I'm not sure I agree that it is conducive to a learning environment.
August 29, 200519 yr Uh oh, they are going to cause the Gelden to rise! Someone call the Knights of Standards and Practices!!! http://www.tv.com/south-park/it-hits-the-f...19/summary.html :plain
August 29, 200519 yr This is an interesting development. Seems useless,and i suppose its ok as long as it isnt used disrespectfully at another human being. For example,man i cant remember the f***ing answer should always be acceptable. J/k the truth is that counting tallies and such makes it a big joke and it doesnt create neither a negative nor positive lesson for the children
August 29, 200519 yr Haha we cuss all the time in music. Its funny, teachers really don't care. Though now, we have a 1 dollar fine in Jazz Band. :lol
August 29, 200519 yr That's f***in' bulls***! 920519[/snapback] You have 3 more uses for the rest of the day.
August 29, 200519 yr hell our teacher lets us say anything in our biology weredoing an expirement and something came out wrong and i said this is bulls*** miss and shes like not neccesarly you just screwed up.
August 29, 200519 yr Does this also count for the teachers? Because a few of mines drop the F-bomb several times in class.
August 30, 200519 yr The dumbest thing is the running tally. If you're going to let them do it, then let them do it. And anyway it's kind of cute when British kids curse in those charming accents...
August 30, 200519 yr Trust me, a vast majority of English accents make you want to cringe and they swear so often anyway that it has really lost all meaning.
August 30, 200519 yr Tasteful use of a swear word is nothing bad, as far as I'm concerned. I've been in plenty of classes where both students and teachers use an occasional curse and no one really cares. I avoid using an F-bomb most of the time, I just can't stand the thought of a bunch of women hearing me use that kind of language.
August 30, 200519 yr I remember back in 6th grade when we were reading Of Mice and Men in english class out loud, there was the part where the N word was repeated probably 5 or 6 times within 2 paragraphs and the teacher made us skip that page :plain.
September 1, 200519 yr Does this also count for the teachers? Because a few of mines drop the F-bomb several times in class. 920786[/snapback] How interesting! Teachers aren't supposed to swear or use any 'inappropriate' language. But I'd be a millionaire if I had a dime for every teacher who did curse in class. And, those Brits have such a wonderful command of the English language, why stick to such a mundane and pedestrian word such as f***? Why not say that they're "stinking little c**k-nobbers"? They really have such a cute turn of phrase. :thumbup
September 1, 200519 yr Does this also count for the teachers? Because a few of mines drop the F-bomb several times in class. 920786[/snapback] How interesting! Teachers aren't supposed to swear or use any 'inappropriate' language. But I'd be a millionaire if I had a dime for every teacher who did curse in class. And, those Brits have such a wonderful command of the English language, why stick to such a mundane and pedestrian word such as f***? Why not say that they're "stinking little c**k-nobbers"? They really have such a cute turn of phrase. :thumbup 925043[/snapback] Have you ever been to England? Trust me, they might have came up with the language, but we have perfected it.
September 1, 200519 yr I remember back in 6th grade when we were reading Of Mice and Men in english class out loud, there was the part where the N word was repeated probably 5 or 6 times within 2 paragraphs and the teacher made us skip that page :plain. 921448[/snapback] Or when we were watching 'The Crucible', and the teacher casually slipped a folder over the screen when the nude dancing scene came up. :plain
September 1, 200519 yr Author Damn, talk about censorship. We were able to watch Schindler's list in 10th grade....nothing cut out....
September 1, 200519 yr Damn, talk about censorship. We were able to watch Schindler's list in 10th grade....nothing cut out.... 925097[/snapback] 6th grade in Hebrew school, b*tch.
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