just reporting what I heard this morning . . . . .

 

I was listening to Joe Rose on "790 the ticket" this morning, and Joe Arriola the City Manager was interviewed.

 

He was very straight forward and commented that the last meeting with the Marlins about the Stadium was their worst meeting ever. And they haven't been able to gain any ground.

 

Basically, the city is strong on their position that they have no more money to contribute to the project.

 

The city has been evaluating all options, seems like the only two options were (if the current gap is not funded by the Marlins) :

1) Stadium with no roof, next to the OB - The Marlins won't budge on this, so this option is not being considered at the moment

2) Implode the OB, build the Marlin's stadium on top. Moving the Canes to Dolphins Stadium - Doesn't seem that the support is there or will EVER be there. Doesn't seem they will have the backing politically to do it, so this doesn't seem to be a viable option. Basically, Canes > Marlins in this market (Btw, Joe Rose was very supportive of imploding the OB to keep the Marlins in town)

 

They are out of options at the moment.

 

However, Joe Arriola commented that there is someone with deep pockets ready to buy the Marlins. This person wants the entire thing and is not willing to go in as a partner. This person would be able to fund the gap, so the stadium would be a reality if Loria was willing to sell the team. He also commented that Loria doesn't want to sell this team.

 

Now, why do Ariola have to bring this thing about a 'new owner'? this is troublesome. Is he aiding this potential buyer by blocking the deal so that Loria is forced to sell the team?

 

In addition, I think the city is gaining sympathy from the PR perspective, with Sampson no comments policy. Ariola comes as genuine in interviews and the Marlins are being portrayed as non cooperative.

I can't take anyone whose last name is Arriola seriously. Imagine someone's last name as Nippuhl.

 

 

But seriously, now, as you said, I wonder if they're blocking the stadium deal to get Loria to sell the team...would be a shame...

Wow....interesting stuff. :mischief2

Well no offense, but if that is the case, then I'd let Loria sit on his as*, and then sell the team when he has no other options. WHoever this mystery buyer is, sounds like he has a lot of money to spend...

 

 

It's.

 

 

Wayne Huizenga!

I really like loria but if this guy is willing to buy the team, keep them in florida, and expand the payroll than im all for it. Hey if we can get a big name pitcher or fielder and not have to dump the rest of the teams salary then great. By expanding the payroll I mean taking us from $60,375,961 (currently 18th among teams) and move it to about 100,000,000 (give or take) I would be all for it. Loria has been one of the best things thats ever happend to this team but if we cant get a new stadium, and i dont even wanna think what would happen if we dont (as in have to move). Then I think this buyer should save us.

I disagree, the funding gap is small and Loria shouldn't need to sell this team. In addition, it is not Joe Arriola's business to be concerned with. This smell fishy

Any chance this "buyer" doesn't actually exist? And even if he does exist -- is there a good chance he won't bail on the team before taking over ala Don Smiley who had Huizenga reduce payroll in order to lower the cost of the team and then decided he doesn't want it anymore or can't afford it? (I forget the exact reason)

 

Loria has been a fantastic owner. He has helped make this team into a consistent winner and he is also a huge fan. He won't just quit and walk away. Sure he's a fan, but he's also a fan of being the owner. He's not going to be pushed out the door for the off-chance somebody with "deep pockets" will get this done. I'd hate to see him go and I sincerely doubt he will until he himself decides it's time to move on and for other reasons besides this.

 

This person would be able to fund the gap, so the stadium would be a reality if Loria was willing to sell the team. He also commented that Loria doesn't want to sell this team.

 

It makes Loria look like a bad guy to some fans I'm sure because it makes it seem like he's being selfish in a way and preventing the city, state, team and fans from enjoying a new stadium. That's not the case and is pretty unfair to Mr. Loria.

Any chance this "buyer" doesn't actually exist? And even if he does exist -- is there a good chance he won't bail on the team before taking over ala Don Smiley who had Huizenga reduce payroll in order to lower the cost of the team and then decided he doesn't want it anymore or can't afford it? (I forget the exact reason)

 

Loria has been a fantastic owner. He has helped make this team into a consistent winner and he is also a huge fan. He won't just quit and walk away. Sure he's a fan, but he's also a fan of being the owner. He's not going to be pushed out the door for the off-chance somebody with "deep pockets" will get this done. I'd hate to see him go and I sincerely doubt he will until he himself decides it's time to move on and for other reasons besides this.

 

This person would be able to fund the gap, so the stadium would be a reality if Loria was willing to sell the team. He also commented that Loria doesn't want to sell this team.

 

It makes Loria look like a bad guy to some fans I'm sure because it makes it seem like he's being selfish in a way and preventing the city, state, team and fans from enjoying a new stadium. That's not the case and is pretty unfair to Mr. Loria.

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Admin's right. this Arriola or w.e his name is, is trying to make Loria seem like the bad guy because he cant get the extra 40 million or w.e it is. 40 millions a s*** load of money I mean come on who does this guy think he is, does he have the 40 mil to help this team. I think not, 40 million isnt pocket change you know!

Any chance this "buyer" doesn't actually exist?? And even if he does exist -- is there a good chance he won't bail on the team before taking over ala Don Smiley who had Huizenga reduce payroll in order to lower the cost of the team and then decided he doesn't want it anymore or can't afford it? (I forget the exact reason)

 

Loria has been a fantastic owner.? He has helped make this team into a consistent winner and he is also a huge fan.? He won't just quit and walk away.? Sure he's a fan, but he's also a fan of being the owner.? He's not going to be pushed out the door for the off-chance somebody with "deep pockets" will get this done.? I'd hate to see him go and I sincerely doubt he will until he himself decides it's time to move on and for other reasons besides this.

 

This person would be able to fund the gap, so the stadium would be a reality if Loria was willing to sell the team. He also commented that Loria doesn't want to sell this team.

 

It makes Loria look like a bad guy to some fans I'm sure because it makes it seem like he's being selfish in a way and preventing the city, state, team and fans from enjoying a new stadium. That's not the case and is pretty unfair to Mr. Loria.

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Admin, I have family in the government, and I guarantee you that what Loria and Samson say is very misleading. Loria has enough money for the funding, and that is a fact. It's just that he chooses to save some of that money for himself (who wouldn't?), and get the state/city to pay for whatever he doesn't want to put in. It's obviously a lot more complicated than that, but in reality--both sides are spinning the story in their favor. However, Loria is making himself to be the victim, and through his efforts, is making the state look bad.

Well no offense, but if that is the case, then I'd let Loria sit on his as*, and then sell the team when he has no other options. WHoever this mystery buyer is, sounds like he has a lot of money to spend...

 

 

It's.

 

 

Wayne Huizenga!

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Any chance this "buyer" doesn't actually exist?

 

 

Admin,

I thought about that, but I don't think the City Manager would say that in the open without this being true. The Marlins could say is not true and I think Ariola is a smart men to mislead with something like this.

 

I would expect something along the lines of "sources" or "unnamed sources" to come up with a rumor like that, and not being true.

 

I agree in that Loria is a good owner, and would like him to stay with the Fish

How much money does Armando Codina have?

 

He's a real estate developer in South Florida who publicly profeses his love for baseball, and even lobbied in Tallahassee on the Marlins behalf last Spring to try and get the stadium bill passed.

 

If he's got the cash, maybe he could be the mystery buyer, if the buyer actually does exist.

 

I refuse to believe Huizenga wants back in, and Mickey Arison is a longshot, IMO, because he seems to get along with Loria (see the courtside playoff tickets, the cozier relationship between the Marlins and Heat than any other two pro teams in SoFla) and I can't see him trying to undercut Loria's stadium effort just because he wants to be the sole owner of the team.

Loria is an amazing owner, and I really hope they can hammer out a deal, BUT if it means this franchise stays in South Florida with someone else coming in and buying the team then I am all for it.

Codina.

Codina.

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If we make the playoffs/win a World Series, I bet the chatter regarding the sale of the team will pick up. Heck, I have no problem with a new owner if he can get a stadium done and stays committed to winning as opposed to being a cheapass that will Pittsburg Pirates us.

I wouldn't doubt there are people out there that want the Marlins and think they can hammer out a deal. However I doubt that these people would as accomodating to the local government or selfless in their attempts to win games on the field and fans into Marlin Nation.

like said by many above, i to like Loria but if someone that can get the stadium built and get key free agents am all for it to.......

I think Loria has done an amazing job with this team, but he cannot guarentee the long term future of this franchise with his budget. If this new owner can come in, guarentee that he'll spend the money to field a competitive team year in/year out and guarentee the long term survival of this team here in South Florida, then I'm all for it.

Today around 6:00 am I was listening to 560 and the Big O said Loria and his wife were got a divorce and the reason the meeting went so bad was because Loria supposively lost money in court, and the city was questioning if he still had the money he was proposing for the stadium bcuz of the money he lost to his wife in the divorce.

Today around 6:00 am I was listening to 560 and the Big O said Loria and his wife were got a divorce and the reason the meeting went so bad was because Loria supposively lost money in court, and the city was questioning if he still had the money he was proposing for the stadium bcuz of the money he lost to his wife in the divorce.

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Today around 6:00 am I was listening to 560 and the Big O said Loria and his wife were got a divorce and the reason the meeting went so bad was because Loria supposively lost money in court, and the city was questioning if he still had the money he was proposing for the stadium bcuz of the money he lost to his wife in the divorce.

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This is definately a strange situation as I have seen Loria with what appears to be a very hot younger blonde...a major upgrade over the previous Mrs. Loria. I wonder how the divorce has effected Samson? It must be strange to see your step-father with another woman...

 

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The city has put in their part. Miami is a huge city with many areas in needs to improve first(transportation, crime, education, the budget) beforte investing more money in a team thats not theirs.

 

This is Lorias team. If he wants the stadium that bad, he needs to ante up his money.

Today around 6:00 am I was listening to 560 and the Big O said Loria and his wife were got a divorce and the reason the meeting went so bad was because Loria supposively lost money in court, and the city was questioning if he still had the money he was proposing for the stadium bcuz of the money he lost to his wife in the divorce.

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This is definately a strange situation as I have seen Loria with what appears to be a very hot younger blonde...a major upgrade over the previous Mrs. Loria. I wonder how the divorce has effected Samson? It must be strange to see your step-father with another woman...

 

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Would it bother that much at their ages though? I am sure he could understand and get used to it and they are friends also.

 

I love loria as an owner. There is only one owner that has been better down here in a long time. The best owner in South Florida history was Joe Robbie. But, Loria is becoming an amazing owner down here. I hope they get the extra cash or can work out something somehow.

I wouldn't mind seeing Mickey Arison as the Marlins' owner. I have been impressed with his handling of the Heat over the last decade or so. He lured a genius like Riley here, and opened up his wallet numerous times to build a winning team. He hasn't allowed the team to have a bad record for very long.

 

If he did the same thing with the Marlins, that would be awesome.