:plain Was the Conine deal necessary? YES, Does it seem like he's past his prime in the three games with the Fish? YES , Would I prefer someone else?YES If the Marlins were throwing around those top level prospects they gave the O's. I would have prefer a young vet like example" Tampa's A.Huff" . Hey bottomline the talent they gave up alot of teams would have line-up offering there own talent. Do I feel Conine will turn around? Of course, but how long will it take him to adjust to NL and will he do it in time to make an impact? thats the million dollar question or the 500 million dollar question(attedance+playoff run=new stadium)

(attedance+playoff run=new stadium)

We've been in a playoff run for over a month and the attendance hasn't showed up yet. I dont think we're going to be able to get enough people to show up to make that much of a difference.

Let me edit that "IN the" playoff run

What if Don Levinski gets back on track next year and becomes a decent 2nd or 3rd starter down the line and Denny becomes a Roy Oswalt-type pitcher?

Injury-prone and inconsistent?

this is truly one of the worst threads I have ever seen. The Marlins had NO CHOICE but to go out and get the best bat available because of Lowell's injury. Conine will get the job done. We have won 2 straight...

 

Still, I say we should have pulled the trigger on the Drew deal, eventhough now it is all hindsight. Whenever you have the chance to add to your talent pool, you should do it.

So, I guess we can add another breed to that of the HATERS, who seem to abound around here lately. We can call it the IMPATIENTS, those for whom a player must produce in a 3 game frame or else, everything they predicted was simply true... I laugh at the ineptitude you show in trying to convince us of your superior baseball knowledge... :w00t :w00t :w00t

You know what, to those in this thread who are bashing people left and right, I ask you this: Are the Marlins not winning? Aren't they tied for the Wild Card? Isn't that number 1 and stats second rate? Shiiiiiiiiiiit.

this is truly one of the worst threads I have ever seen. The Marlins had NO CHOICE but to go out and get the best bat available because of Lowell's injury. Conine will get the job done. We have won 2 straight...

 

Still, I say we should have pulled the trigger on the Drew deal, eventhough now it is all hindsight. Whenever you have the chance to add to your talent pool, you should do it.

we truly did not have to make this trade.

we truly did not have to make this trade.

Yes we did.....

 

Lee is going to be making 6 Million next year and why we need to waste the money on a non productive hitter who is starting to heat up now but later will be in a slump again. Conine is hitting well over .300 with RISP and thats what we need a clutch hitter. He is right for this team and his veteran leadership along with Lowell.

And we don't have to make the playoffs, either.

 

Do you think the Yankees would go out and get a replacement of Giambi was hurt?

How about if the Giants lost Bonds?

 

Decrying the FO for going out and getting a replacement when the team MVP gets hurt is incredible. I can't beleive you all would of rather sat pat with Brian Banks, especially in light of the fact that this team can't score in a whorehouse with a fistful of fifties right now.

 

You do what has to be done. The price is steep, and that's the cost of staying competitive.

Lee is going to be making 6 Million next year and why we need to waste the money on a non productive hitter who is starting to heat up now but later will be in a slump again.

Well, that's purely speculative. He's only 27, so it's certainly possible, even likely, that we haven't seen the best of DLee. Most players don't peak at 27 after all, especially first basemen. Meanwhile, Conine is 37, so he's most likely not going to get appreciably better than his current performance.

 

Conine is hitting well over .300 with RISP

 

Actually, he's hitting .260 with RISP. Only 7 pct. points more than DLee's average with RISP. Not as clutch as he appears to be I guess.

 

Decrying the FO for going out and getting a replacement when the team MVP gets hurt is incredible. I can't beleive you all would of rather sat pat with Brian Banks, especially in light of the fact that this team can't score in a whorehouse with a fistful of fifties right now.

 

Going after a replacement for Lowell is not, in and of itself, what bothered me. What annoyed me is who we gave up (our best pitching prospect) and what we got in return (a 37-year-old 1B/LF with below average power). If it came down to acquiring Conine for Bautista or doing nothing, then I would have preferred doing nothing. I can't really start to judge this trade until after this season when we can see how Conine aided our playoff run...but I'm pretty sure Brian Banks or Todd Hollandsworth could've gone 1 for 14 over the last four games.

And we don't have to make the playoffs, either.

 

Do you think the Yankees would go out and get a replacement of Giambi was hurt?

How about if the Giants lost Bonds?

 

Decrying the FO for going out and getting a replacement when the team MVP gets hurt is incredible. I can't beleive you all would of rather sat pat with Brian Banks, especially in light of the fact that this team can't score in a whorehouse with a fistful of fifties right now.

 

You do what has to be done. The price is steep, and that's the cost of staying competitive.

Those situations are completely different. There are no similarities. If you are the Yankees or the Giants, you get a replacement for Bonds or Giambi because you have the money to compete every year! If you are the Marlins, it's insane because you need to preserve your future.

 

And Jeff Conine is extremely overrated her, obviously, while Banks is underrated.

 

Conine RC/27- 5.25

Banks RC/27- 4.98

 

That's the difference between Manny Ramirez and Brian Giles.

we truly did not have to make this trade.

so you were fine with Banks and Hollandsworth making up for Mike Lowell's bat for the rest of the season and possibly the playoffs?

DP :plain

Conine hit a shot his first at bat up lets see about his second at bat. He is just struggling with the new pitchers in this league.

Conine will come through later in the game. Let's just hope it's with RISP

On the ESPN boards one guy said he thinks Conine is going to be the next CJ. I hope he is dead wrong on that one.

Man i get pissed off at every player that gets into slumps but conine is different there's something diffrent about him,i like him!