May 16, 200620 yr Just curious how Marlin fans are holding up a year or so later with the Hee Seop Choi for Derrek Lee trade? In Chicago, the moment this "trade" went thru, the media here went absolutely Hog Wild Crazy for him, talking about how the Cubs have acquired the best possible First Baseman in decades, how he was just showing signs of hitting and that his defense is Gold Glove Caliber, and that you just cant find players of this magnitude on your doorstep. Of course, now that hes injured, the media here has wept in anguish and frustration. Ive never read more Derrek Lee is Phenom stories in my lifetime and his absence is being "blamed" for the Tribune Corporations Teams' woes. The way they gush over him is sickening. and got me wondering? How are you guys dealing with all of this? is there resentment? im very curious. Thanks.
May 16, 200620 yr Wow this is the most off post I have ever read in my life. Nobody in Chicago thought Lee was a savior then, and nobody thinks he is the goat now.
May 16, 200620 yr I personally knew he could produce greatly someday, although never quite sure if his bat would truly come around at DS.
May 16, 200620 yr There's no resentment at all. Yeah, DLee is a straight-up phenom, and yeah, we got totally fleeced in that trade, but I've come to expect that sort of result with our front office being the way it is.
May 16, 200620 yr Everyone here knew that the D. Lee for Choi trade was a 'dumping of salary " trade. We knew he was good but he really blossomed at Wrigley and the short fences. When we got Delgado we only missed his defence. We are sort of used to these kinds of trades. We are also used to losing our stars to free agency. Hopefully when we get our stadium we won't have to go through this again.
May 16, 200620 yr bad trade but we ripped you for willis we ripped you for nolasco and pinto for JP so I guess it is all is fair?
May 16, 200620 yr bad trade but we ripped you for willis we ripped you for nolasco and pinto for JP so I guess it is all is fair? He's not a Cubs fan, he's a White Sox fan.
May 16, 200620 yr bad trade but we ripped you for willis we ripped you for nolasco and pinto for JP so I guess it is all is fair? He's not a Cubs fan, he's a White Sox fan. they have fans? I thought everyone in chicago followed the cubs it seemed like. Well changed the you to them
May 16, 200620 yr Yep salary dump of a player coming into his prime, who really needed to get out of our stadium hitting wise. Choi wasnt a total loss, he did go in the trade for Lo Duca and Mota, who then played parts in the trades that got us Hanley, Gaby Hernandez etc.
May 16, 200620 yr bad trade but we ripped you for willis we ripped you for nolasco and pinto for JP so I guess it is all is fair? He's not a Cubs fan, he's a White Sox fan. they have fans? Pot, kettle, black
May 16, 200620 yr It's obvious that the trade didn't work out as planned, but at the time and even now I feel like we accomplished what we were trying to do with that trade. Choi was one of the biggest prospects in baseball despite his demotion to AAA with the Cubs. He didn't pan out but that's the risk thats being taken. Had we kept Delgado this trade may have been somewhat irrelevant anyway.
May 16, 200620 yr bad trade but we ripped you for willis we ripped you for nolasco and pinto for JP so I guess it is all is fair? He's not a Cubs fan, he's a White Sox fan. they have fans? Pot, kettle, black pointed out by the other kettle cant laugh at yourself shouldnt laugh at others hehehe :blink:
May 16, 200620 yr bad trade but we ripped you for willis we ripped you for nolasco and pinto for JP so I guess it is all is fair? He's not a Cubs fan, he's a White Sox fan. they have fans? Pot, kettle, black pointed out by the other kettle cant laugh at yourself shouldnt laugh at others hehehe :blink: :lol I was thinking the same thing when I posted that. I am doing the same thing.
May 17, 200620 yr The same as I thought the day we traded him.......we should have signed him long term.
May 17, 200620 yr Does it matter? Lee would be on another team this season anyway. Not true. He could have been the spark the last two teams lacked to get to the playoffs, especially the way he played last year. Delgado was great, but last year's Lee could have won us a few more games.
May 17, 200620 yr Does it matter? Lee would be on another team this season anyway. Not true. He could have been the spark the last two teams lacked to get to the playoffs, especially the way he played last year. Delgado was great, but last year's Lee could have won us a few more games. I doubt Lee wouldve done what he did in Dolphins Stadium...but I guess you can argue he couldve put us over the top, who knows.
May 17, 200620 yr you know for less then loduca and delgado last year we could of had lee and pudge as well kept penny
May 17, 200620 yr you know for less then loduca and delgado last year we could of had lee and pudge as well kept penny How do you figure? Delgado made $4 million and LoDuca made $7 million. Pudge made $10 million and Lee made $7 million.
May 17, 200620 yr Does it matter? Lee would be on another team this season anyway. Not true. He could have been the spark the last two teams lacked to get to the playoffs, especially the way he played last year. Delgado was great, but last year's Lee could have won us a few more games. I doubt Lee wouldve done what he did in Dolphins Stadium...but I guess you can argue he couldve put us over the top, who knows. The way Lee was hitting it wouldn't have mattered what ballpark he was in. Did Delgado suddenly stop being a good hitter in Dolphins stadium? No, because he was a best. Sure, some homers end up doubles/flyouts, but thats a random few and Lee would have still had good numbers.
May 17, 200620 yr I say that because Lee's career numbers at Dolphins Stadium were always far less than what they were on the road. Like you said the way he was mashing the ball he couldve put us over the top. We will never know but I do see your point.
May 17, 200620 yr I say that because Lee's career numbers at Dolphins Stadium were always far less than what they were on the road. Like you said the way he was mashing the ball he couldve put us over the top. We will never know but I do see your point. I agree he was never as good at home but I just wanted to dispell the notion that his breakout was due to Wrigley alone. I watch a lot of the Cubs and he really transformed as a hitter last year, which was not his first at Wrigley. Maybe you are right that he never would have transofrmed that way at DS, but his usual production would have been useful in 2004.
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