I do think that spending that much money on guns is a little absurd. I assume your family is affluent, but I still can't really fathom needing to get even more than what you have now.

 

However, I understand hobbies and obsessions, so I am not entirely surprised by yet another Accord nra thread. Just try to put things into perspective, because you just might let this sh*t run your life (if it isn't already, because it's all you ever talk about on the message board these days)

I have things perfectly in perspective. You take a look at any hobby and you will see people spending ridiculous amounts of money on things that you find pointless. I see people spending $10,000 on radio control toy airplanes and spend all day and night working on and building planes and I think that's just plain dumb and cannot fathom it, yet I realize it's their hobby, it makes them happy, they have fun doing it, so why criticize them for it? This is MY hobby, I have made a lot of great friends doing it, it makes me happy, I have fun doing it, so why criticize me for it? If I had no interest in firearms but still realized the importance of owning one for personal protection like millions of other people in America, I would own probably just a simply $250 Remington 870 shotgun for the house and a small Smith&Wesson J-frame revolver to carry. But this is my HOBBY, I shoot guns for fun, I collect them, I compete with them, among other things. Why criticize me for it?

Hey, just suggestive measures on my part. Everyone has hobbies and I can relate (as mentioned in bold)..

 

however, nobody I know (on this message board in particular) is as fanatical and obsessive about something as you are. And to be completely honest, your existence here at MB is utterly predictable, as I'm sure you already know.

sh*t, we pay like $5400 a year for this bulls*** gated community so I'm not really interested in spending the $600, plus I don't like guns. I'm a p***y liberal, after all. I just don't think I would want to be that paranoid. Every single bump in the night has you reaching for your gun after a while.

 

 

And how many guns do you own? I'm sure 2 more aren't going to cause your family to die.

 

"Oh no, if only I had 9 guns instead of 7!"

Yep, crime never happens within gated communities. Gated communities are a joke.

 

It has nothing to do with being paranoid and to suggest otherwise is simple ignorance and nothing more.

 

My family does not have access to my guns, I am bringing them all with me once I reach my final duty station in the Marine Corps and most of my firearms are too complicated for novices who have never so much as touched a gun before in their life, therefore I bought my mom the very simple and very reliable revolver with 150 year old technology that anyone can easily operate.

 

I agree that gated communities are a joke, but I don't need another couple hundred dollars for more false sense of securities.

 

I'd say that if I were to buy one, I would absolutely become more paranoid, because every single time I heard a noise, I'd reach for my gun. That can't be good for your mental health.

 

It doesn't matter if they have access to your guns, as I didn't make any reference to that. You are talking about needing these two guns to keep you and your family safe. It just seems like overkill.

To suggest that a firearm is a false sense of security is like I already stated above, ignorance. A firearm is the only direct method that will stop a direct threat to your life. A gated community? Just a barrier. An alarm system? Just a barrier. Dialing 9-1-1? Good luck, if you can even get to a phone, then have fun waiting 10 minutes and placing your life in the hands of someone else.

 

If you think you would become paranoid and be reaching for your gun everytime you heard a noise, you clearly don't have any experience with firearms, let alone ever been to any training which teaches the necessary mindset. To suggest that someone who purchases a firearm is paranoid is nothing short of absolute downright stupidity.

 

Not everyone needs a firearm just like not everyone [/b]needs[/b] a smoke detector in their house, but it sure as hell is a good thing to have.

It's impossible to debate this, because neither of us will ever give any ground (or at least, you won't, and you won't ever percieve me as giving ground if I did), but I'll say that I know many gun owners who simply do not have the necessary training.

 

And no, I've never handled a firearm, and I never plan on doing so. Does that make me a bad person? Do I hate my family? All these answers and more in Accords next post!

And don't you dare imply that I don't care for my family just because I refuse to buy a gun. That's downright disrespectful, immature, and you just don't say that if you earnestly want people to take your opinion seriously, which you very obviously do.

*WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH*

 

That's the sound of the point I made in the above post going right over your head. You don't want me to imply that you don't care for your family because you choose not to own a firearm, yet it's perfectly okay for someone to say that those of us who do take responsibility for our own lives and the lives of our families by purchasing a firearm is... pointless. Nope, sorry. It doesn't work both ways, and that's the point I was making. Don't dish it out if you can't take it right back.

 

"Whoosh" is it?

 

Was I the one who made the pointless comment? No.

 

Although seeing all of the different guns you have, it could be seen as a pointless investment. Overkill, some might say.

 

I respect your right to defend your family, but there comes a point where you can't claim that every single gun you buy is solely for your protection. You don't need 20 guns, man.

 

 

Dude, I'm not judging your hobby, but if it's a hobby, say it's a hobby, but don't try to justify it by saying it's solely for your family's protection and then turn around and say it's a hobby.

And stamp collectors do not need thousands of pointless little stamps. Yet it's their hobby and they enjoy it, so who are you to criticize or lecture them? Would you criticize or lecture me if I had a massive baseball card collection? No, you would not. This is no different.

 

This thread is about the two firearms I purchased, one of which is going to be the primary defense weapon for my parents when I leave, and the other is going to be my primary carry weapon. So YES, these two are solely for protection which I view as a necessity. That's what this thread is about, that's what the posts above have been about, but you and others bring up how I don't need 20 guns, I don't own 20 guns but I do own a lot, not all of them are for personal protection, most are for recreational use or collecting however the two featured in this thread most certainly are not for hobby or leisure.

I just don't think it's necessary. You do, and more power to you.

I do think that spending that much money on guns is a little absurd. I assume your family is affluent, but I still can't really fathom needing to get even more than what you have now.

 

However, I understand hobbies and obsessions, so I am not entirely surprised by yet another Accord nra thread. Just try to put things into perspective, because you just might let this sh*t run your life (if it isn't already, because it's all you ever talk about on the message board these days)

I have things perfectly in perspective. You take a look at any hobby and you will see people spending ridiculous amounts of money on things that you find pointless. I see people spending $10,000 on radio control toy airplanes and spend all day and night working on and building planes and I think that's just plain dumb and cannot fathom it, yet I realize it's their hobby, it makes them happy, they have fun doing it, so why criticize them for it? This is MY hobby, I have made a lot of great friends doing it, it makes me happy, I have fun doing it, so why criticize me for it? If I had no interest in firearms but still realized the importance of owning one for personal protection like millions of other people in America, I would own probably just a simply $250 Remington 870 shotgun for the house and a small Smith&Wesson J-frame revolver to carry. But this is my HOBBY, I shoot guns for fun, I collect them, I compete with them, among other things. Why criticize me for it?

Hey, just suggestive measures on my part. Everyone has hobbies and I can relate (as mentioned in bold)..

 

however, nobody I know (on this message board in particular) is as fanatical and obsessive about something as you are. And to be completely honest, your existence here at MB is utterly predictable, as I'm sure you already know.

 

Then you obviously need to look around. How about someone who annually spends $15,000 to simply go to baseball games? Because there are lot's of them on here and they're called Florida Marlins season ticket holders. Many people on this website spend more money in a single year on Marlins tickets than my entire gun collection is worth, not to mention hundreds if not thousands of hours of time spent on this website each year. Are they fanatical and obsessive about the Marlins? Hell yes (and so am I). Are you going to criticize, lecture, or otherwise belittle them for it? Absolutely not. So don't do it to me.

 

I just don't think it's necessary. You do, and more power to you.

Indeed. And you don't, and that's your right and your choice. What gets me pissed is when I am accused of being paranoid simply exercising my constitutional rights.

I didn't accuse you of being paranoid, dude. I said that sleeping with a gun under your pillow would probably over time lead a person to become more paranoid than normal.

 

So yeah, in other words, you are crazy and should be kept away from society. What the hell is a constitution anyways. I don't listen to hip hop.

I didn't accuse you of being paranoid, dude. I said that sleeping with a gun under your pillow would probably over time lead a person to become more paranoid than normal.

 

So yeah, in other words, you are crazy and should be kept away from society. What the hell is a constitution anyways. I don't listen to hip hop.

 

 

Can we all agree that everyone is different?

 

You seem to have it in your head that owning a gun for personal protection would make one paranoid, correct? Well, it may make YOU paranoid, but you're different that me and I'm different that that guy and so forth. I Do not own a Fire Arm, I don't really have to, as I'm in the Military and i am a cop.

 

 

Here is the bottom line: Criminals use guns/knives or any kind of weapon to: Rob, murder or torture you...whatever. What I believe in is an equal or greater means to defend yourself. If you're surrounded by people who want to kick your ass or kill you, the mere sight of a gun will scare them most of the time. It IS personal preference, however, It is becoming a necessity.

 

When I get out of the Air Force, I am going to buy a gun for my own personal protection. Knowing all the sh*t that happens out there, being a cop, knowing the dangers..come on.

 

I do think, it'd be good for people who go to buy a gun(or atleast their first one) have to attend a class or take a test before they can purchase one. Just because it is important to know the dangers.

 

 

Sometimes you must fight fire with fire.

 

And thats all I gotta say about that, fellas.

 

 

Well one more thing. I think I came down on Accord recently and it was unwarranted. I apologize.

 

But I still hate that JimmyJack guy.

I LOVE the .357, I've always wanted that gun.

I got the "Plus" model, it's the same thing as the standard except it has a 7-round cylinder instead of the traditional 6-round cylinder, which is great for home defense.

 

How much did it run you? I want one as soon as I turn 21.

 

$590 plus tax and a $5 background check fee.

 

Are you going to be carrying? Because if you are, i'd highly recommend against purchasing a massive revolver as a first handgun. I carry one of two guns depending on my needs and the situation, if I need deep concealment and will be wearing just shorts and a t-shirt, i'll carry my small bug which is a S&W 642 .38. If i'm going out somewhere and will be wearing something more than just a t-shirt, i'll carry my Sig 229 (which is being replaced by the USP I just bought). The S&W 686 is one of the best home defense handguns you can buy, however if you're going to be carrying I highly recommend something else. If you want to stick with a revolver for carry, get either a S&W 340 or 642. Your body type will also largely depend on what type of gun you're able to carry, if you're very slim, that eliminates a lot of guns that you could potentially carry.

 

You're damn right I'm planning on carrying. :thumbup

 

I will take a look at those models you mentioned tonight.

Just because Accord makes a thread showcasing his guns, doesn't mean it just gives you the right to spout off about your dislike of guns. We've been down this road tens of times and we don't need to keep rehashing the same crap. Stay out of the thread if you don't agree and let people who actually want to discuss the purpose of why the topic was created, discuss it.

So, did you remember to get the milk?

Off Topic (but so are a lot of topics in this thread): Accord what happened to your sports memorabilia collection? It seems like you haven't posted pictures in over a year. Got any new stuff?

I believe he sold most of it when he switched his hobby/interests to the firearms.

sh*t, we pay like $5400 a year for this bulls*** gated community so I'm not really interested in spending the $600, plus I don't like guns. I'm a p***y liberal, after all. I just don't think I would want to be that paranoid. Every single bump in the night has you reaching for your gun after a while.

 

 

And how many guns do you own? I'm sure 2 more aren't going to cause your family to die.

 

"Oh no, if only I had 9 guns instead of 7!"

Yep, crime never happens within gated communities. Gated communities are a joke.

 

 

Come on Accord, you live in Boca. You know that's not true. Some, yes, are a joke. But most, especially where WE live (such as St. Andrews Estates, Woodfield, ect.), are very difficult to enter.

.

 

I didn't accuse you of being paranoid, dude. I said that sleeping with a gun under your pillow would probably over time lead a person to become more paranoid than normal.

 

So yeah, in other words, you are crazy and should be kept away from society. What the hell is a constitution anyways. I don't listen to hip hop.

 

 

Can we all agree that everyone is different?

 

You seem to have it in your head that owning a gun for personal protection would make one paranoid, correct? Well, it may make YOU paranoid, but you're different that me and I'm different that that guy and so forth. I Do not own a Fire Arm, I don't really have to, as I'm in the Military and i am a cop.

 

 

Here is the bottom line: Criminals use guns/knives or any kind of weapon to: Rob, murder or torture you...whatever. What I believe in is an equal or greater means to defend yourself. If you're surrounded by people who want to kick your ass or kill you, the mere sight of a gun will scare them most of the time. It IS personal preference, however, It is becoming a necessity.

 

When I get out of the Air Force, I am going to buy a gun for my own personal protection. Knowing all the sh*t that happens out there, being a cop, knowing the dangers..come on.

 

I do think, it'd be good for people who go to buy a gun(or atleast their first one) have to attend a class or take a test before they can purchase one. Just because it is important to know the dangers.

 

 

Sometimes you must fight fire with fire.

 

And thats all I gotta say about that, fellas.

 

 

Well one more thing. I think I came down on Accord recently and it was unwarranted. I apologize.

 

Exactly!

 

But I still hate that JimmyJack guy.

Something we can all agree on :thumbup .

 

sh*t, we pay like $5400 a year for this bulls*** gated community so I'm not really interested in spending the $600, plus I don't like guns. I'm a p***y liberal, after all. I just don't think I would want to be that paranoid. Every single bump in the night has you reaching for your gun after a while.

 

 

And how many guns do you own? I'm sure 2 more aren't going to cause your family to die.

 

"Oh no, if only I had 9 guns instead of 7!"

Yep, crime never happens within gated communities. Gated communities are a joke.

 

 

Come on Accord, you live in Boca. You know that's not true. Some, yes, are a joke. But most, especially where WE live (such as St. Andrews Estates, Woodfield, ect.), are very difficult to enter.

Yep, those 87 year old unarmed flashlight carrying security guards make me feel real safe. You want to trust your life to them, that's fine, but I won't.

 

They're not keeping anyone out, the fact of the matter is anyone who wants to get in, will get in and anyone who suggests otherwise is just being naive.

 

Off Topic (but so are a lot of topics in this thread): Accord what happened to your sports memorabilia collection? It seems like you haven't posted pictures in over a year. Got any new stuff?

I sold everything except the 1980 olympic team signed photo and all my panthers/marlins stuff.

You go out for milk and come home with guns. Where do you live Compton?

I LOVE the .357, I've always wanted that gun.

I got the "Plus" model, it's the same thing as the standard except it has a 7-round cylinder instead of the traditional 6-round cylinder, which is great for home defense.

 

How much did it run you? I want one as soon as I turn 21.

 

$590 plus tax and a $5 background check fee.

 

Are you going to be carrying? Because if you are, i'd highly recommend against purchasing a massive revolver as a first handgun. I carry one of two guns depending on my needs and the situation, if I need deep concealment and will be wearing just shorts and a t-shirt, i'll carry my small bug which is a S&W 642 .38. If i'm going out somewhere and will be wearing something more than just a t-shirt, i'll carry my Sig 229 (which is being replaced by the USP I just bought). The S&W 686 is one of the best home defense handguns you can buy, however if you're going to be carrying I highly recommend something else. If you want to stick with a revolver for carry, get either a S&W 340 or 642. Your body type will also largely depend on what type of gun you're able to carry, if you're very slim, that eliminates a lot of guns that you could potentially carry.

 

You're damn right I'm planning on carrying. :thumbup

 

I will take a look at those models you mentioned tonight.

 

If you're going to be carrying, don't even consider the 686 revolver I bought, it's huge and heavy, unless you're Paul Bunyan it's impractical for concealed carry. You'll see what I mean when you first hold one :lol . For home defense or just plinking at the range it's GREAT, but don't even consider it if you're going to be CCW'ing!

I LOVE the .357, I've always wanted that gun.

I got the "Plus" model, it's the same thing as the standard except it has a 7-round cylinder instead of the traditional 6-round cylinder, which is great for home defense.

 

How much did it run you? I want one as soon as I turn 21.

 

$590 plus tax and a $5 background check fee.

 

Are you going to be carrying? Because if you are, i'd highly recommend against purchasing a massive revolver as a first handgun. I carry one of two guns depending on my needs and the situation, if I need deep concealment and will be wearing just shorts and a t-shirt, i'll carry my small bug which is a S&W 642 .38. If i'm going out somewhere and will be wearing something more than just a t-shirt, i'll carry my Sig 229 (which is being replaced by the USP I just bought). The S&W 686 is one of the best home defense handguns you can buy, however if you're going to be carrying I highly recommend something else. If you want to stick with a revolver for carry, get either a S&W 340 or 642. Your body type will also largely depend on what type of gun you're able to carry, if you're very slim, that eliminates a lot of guns that you could potentially carry.

 

You're damn right I'm planning on carrying. :thumbup

 

I will take a look at those models you mentioned tonight.

 

If you're going to be carrying, don't even consider the 686 revolver I bought, it's huge and heavy, unless you're Paul Bunyan it's impractical for concealed carry. You'll see what I mean when you first hold one :lol . For home defense or just plinking at the range it's GREAT, but don't even consider it if you're going to be CCW'ing!

 

I kind of am a big guy...

 

 

I'm actually looking at the Model 10 Revolver by S&W. You have any opinions on it?

You go out for milk and come home with guns. Where do you live Compton?

Boca Raton is probably the direct opposite of Compton.

I LOVE the .357, I've always wanted that gun.

I got the "Plus" model, it's the same thing as the standard except it has a 7-round cylinder instead of the traditional 6-round cylinder, which is great for home defense.

 

How much did it run you? I want one as soon as I turn 21.

 

$590 plus tax and a $5 background check fee.

 

Are you going to be carrying? Because if you are, i'd highly recommend against purchasing a massive revolver as a first handgun. I carry one of two guns depending on my needs and the situation, if I need deep concealment and will be wearing just shorts and a t-shirt, i'll carry my small bug which is a S&W 642 .38. If i'm going out somewhere and will be wearing something more than just a t-shirt, i'll carry my Sig 229 (which is being replaced by the USP I just bought). The S&W 686 is one of the best home defense handguns you can buy, however if you're going to be carrying I highly recommend something else. If you want to stick with a revolver for carry, get either a S&W 340 or 642. Your body type will also largely depend on what type of gun you're able to carry, if you're very slim, that eliminates a lot of guns that you could potentially carry.

 

You're damn right I'm planning on carrying. :thumbup

 

I will take a look at those models you mentioned tonight.

 

If you're going to be carrying, don't even consider the 686 revolver I bought, it's huge and heavy, unless you're Paul Bunyan it's impractical for concealed carry. You'll see what I mean when you first hold one :lol . For home defense or just plinking at the range it's GREAT, but don't even consider it if you're going to be CCW'ing!

 

I kind of am a big guy...

 

 

I'm actually looking at the Model 10 Revolver by S&W. You have any opinions on it?

The model 10 is a big gun, pretty much just as big as the 686 I bought. I've been down this road before, the novelty of a huge revolver is cool, but a week later you'll be sick of carrying it around and you'll just end up wanting a small S&W J-frame revolver like a 642 or 340 that you can easily stick in a pocket holster and not even have to think about it. A massive 4" revolver with full grips is just so unnecessary for concealed carry, you'll have the same firepower in a small 642/340 that you do in a model 10 or 686 but in a much smaller package that is small, lightweight, and easy to conceal.

You go out for milk and come home with guns. Where do you live Compton?

Boca Raton is probably the direct opposite of Compton.

Yeah, apparently I'm no good at making teh funny.

The 642 looks brilliant and the price is very appealing on that as well. I think that will be my first gun purchase (unless of course I get a rifle before then)

You go out for milk and come home with guns. Where do you live Compton?

Boca Raton is probably the direct opposite of Compton.

Yeah, apparently I'm no good at making teh funny.

Sorry, my bad.

 

:banghead

I LOLed at Jon's joke. Off Topic: I recently heard a line that went something like this:

 

Mom#1: I'm moving to a place that is a safe haven for my kids.

 

Mom#2: Oh really? Where?

 

Mom#1: Compton.

The 642 looks brilliant and the price is very appealing on that as well. I think that will be my first gun purchase (unless of course I get a rifle before then)

Good to hear.

 

I'm just letting you know, the 642 is NOT a fun gun to shoot. It's not something that you'll want to go to the range and just have fun with, it's painful and infact downright brutal to shoot, after 10 rounds your hands will be killing you and you won't want to shoot anymore your first time out. The reason for this is because the gun is firing such powerful rounds but the weapon is very small and lightweight so it doesn't eat up any of the recoil and all that recoil goes straight into your hands and arms, and it HURTS.

 

HOWEVER, for defensive purposes and for concealed carry you just can't beat it. If you ever have to use it in a defensive situation, it has everything you could ever want out of a defensive firearm and if god forbid you're ever put into a situation where you're forced to use it, the recoil will be the last thing on your mind and you won't even feel it.